Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound

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Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound


David Ghodoussi form Optimum Polymer Technologies visited Autogeek's Show Car Garage to introduce and showcase a brand new technology for removing serious below surface paint defects as well as sanding marks after wetsanding or dampsanding paint.

Optimum Hyper Compound​

[video=youtube_share;MhkBAhXDk8Q]- Optimum Hyper Compound at Autogeek's Show Car Garage![/video]

Optimum Hyper Compound
Paint Perfect in a Spray

Benefits and Features
This ground-breaking spray compound is fast cutting, ZERO dusting and user friendly. A unique blend of proprietary polymers and abrasives allows for rapid removal of sanding marks and deep paint imperfections and defects like swirls and scratches all while creating the look of a polish.

No chalky residue EVER!

Optimum Hyper Compound is available to Professional Detailers and Car Enthusiasts who want an aggressive compound for restoring a show car finish to neglected paint. This is a pro quality compound designed and formulated to be "Body Shop Safe" for use in body shops for removing sanding marks after sanding paint to remove orange peel and other surface texture.

Optimum Hyper Compound can be used with rotary buffers using both wool and foam pads and dual action polishers with foam pads.
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Optimum Hyper Polish
After removing sanding marks or other paint defects with Optimum Hyper Compound, follow-up using Optimum Hyper Polish, the perfect tag-team for show car results.

• Optimum Hyper Compound
• Optimum Hyper Polish

Here's a test truck, a custom 1970 Chevy Truck street rod owned by Rick W.

Rick's truck has a customer paint job that was hand sanded and them buffed out but the finish has zillions of swirls from the buffing step and there are still straightline tracers left everywhere in the paint from the hand wetsanding process.


Thousands of swirls give the paint a dull, hazy look...

Scuffs and scratches throughout the finish...

RIDS or Random Isolated Deeper Scratches throughout the finish...

The straightline scratches you see next to the reflection of the overhead florescent lights are leftover sanding marks from the sanding process commonly called Tracers.

After introducing David Ghodoussi and his brand new Optimum Hyper Compound, we took a lunch break, and I machine damp-sanded the hood starting with #1500 Grit and finishing with #3000 Grit discs.

After David and Yancy returned from lunch that's when we demonstrated the Optimum Hyper Compound to a section of the driver's hood.

This is where we left off after shooting the video so this is where I started to finish the job...

First I'll finish compounding the driver's side of the hood...

Here you can see some very light holograms left in the clear coat and this is normal for a heavy cut compound and an aggressive wool pad, the fibers of the wool pad by themselves will impart holograms like you see here but the good news is they are very shallow and are easily removed with the polishing step.

 

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Continued...


After compounding I used the new Optimum Hyper Polish with the Optimum Red Foam Polishing Pad with a rotary buffer to remove any remaining holograms and restore a clear, high gloss shine to the paint.

The paint started out dull and haze and now it's crystal clear with all the Tracers, RIDS and Swirls removed. Now you can see the beautiful metallic flake under the clear in the basecoat.

Check out the crisp reflections in the driver's side paint...

Next up I sealed the paint using Optimum Spray Wax. Optimum Spray Wax uses a patented UV system that protects against UVA and UVB rays and provides protection for up to 5 months using a patented blend of Polymers and Carnauba. This is a spray-on, wipe-off product that's very easy to use and creates a clear, reflective shine.

Check it out...

The sun shots...

This is a very well build street rod with lots of attention to details, all it needed was a little show car polishing at Autogeek's Show Car Garage with Optimum's new Hyper Compound and Hyper Polish.

And Rick, the happy owner and builder of the sweet 1970 3/4 ton Chevrolet Custom Truck...

New Products Showcased
Optimum Hyper Compound
Optimum Hyper Polish

 

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Before

Thousands of swirls give the paint a dull, hazy look...

After

Thanks Rick for letting us use your cool truck and thank you David Ghodoussi for showcasing your new Optimum Hyper Compound and polishing system at Autogeek's Show Car Garage!

 

[cobalt9123]

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WOW. This could really be a revolution. Do you think you would be able to get the same amount of correction with a DA polisher?
Very nice work Mike!

 

[ryandamartini]

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spray compound... I think i you did a review of this stuff with the cyclo, I would be sold on both.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

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Looks to be an awesome product.............................with a rotary! Little concerning for us Flex 3401/DA users in that there have only been rotaries used in the 2 threads about hyper compound. I wonder if it's it's only effective with a rotary?

Mike, was this clearcoat hard or soft?

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

WOW. This could really be a revolution. Do you think you would be able to get the same amount of correction with a DA polisher?
Very nice work Mike!

No but only because the rotary buffer is a direct drive tool, at this time with current technology, it offers the most power, ability and effectiveness at removing defects with any type of pad and with any type of polishing product.

I believe you can get close with a DA Polisher but comparing head-on under all situations, the rotary because you cannot stop the pad from spinning offers the most power.

spray compound... I think i you did a review of this stuff with the Cyclo, I would be sold on both.

I used an early version of the compound with the Cyclo on my black test panel and it worked well. Since the newest version of the compound is light years ahead of the first version of this compound I'm sure performance will be increased also.

Note Hyper-Compound or HC is a true SMAT product, it cuts as long as you run the buffer and because it has such super long buffing cycle or what I like to call "play time", you can cut till you're finished with the defect removal for the section you're working or until decide to stop and inspect your results.

Looks to be an awesome product.............................with a rotary! Little concerning for us Flex 3401/DA users in that there have only been rotaries used in the 2 threads about hyper compound. I wonder if it's it's only effective with a rotary?

David Ghodoussi says it will work with all types of tools but as of today I have not used the newest version of Hyper Compound with a Flex 3401.

Mike, was this clearcoat hard or soft?

If we use a modern Corvette clear coat as a benchmark because I have not seen much change in hardness or softness in their paint systems over the years, I would say it's not as hard as a Corvette clear but it is pretty close.

It's definitely not what I would call a soft paint. It is a "beautiful" paint and the metallic flake really came to life once we restored clarity to the clear coat.

I did some testing with a PC and the Wolfgang Twins on the hood with the owner when he was here for our April 24th class and with good technique all but the RIDS could be removed using a DA and a single Section Pass.

 

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Here's the link to the Honda I buffed out using the Hyper Polish and the YouTube videos for the Hyper Polish.

Show Car Garage Video: Optimum Hyper Polish

Optimum Hyper Polish Part 1​

[video=youtube_share;5mOUCmCqQPk]- Autogeek's New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Polish Spray Pt. 1[/video]

Optimum Hyper Polish Part 2​

[video=youtube_share;IG-T6iH3ei8]- Autogeek's New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Polish Spray Pt. 2[/video]

Visit Autogeek's YouTube Channel for more YouTube Videos​

 

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***Update***

YouTube Video has been added to the first post of this thread....

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Does AG not sell the optimum wool and foam pad specific to this system? I didn't see it on the website.

 

[mchess1]

Nice Videos Mike, the difference was quite dramatic. Optimum makes some nice products.

Since the pad is never going to be loaded down with used product, how would you tell if you are picking up too much of the contaminants off of the paint and putting more marring back into the paint? In other words, aren't you eventually creating sandpaper by not cleaning off what you are abrading with the pad?

Using a liquid polish always forces me to clean the pad or switch it often enough that I never worry about it.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Since the pad is never going to be loaded down with used product

I think if you watch the video I talk about "working clean" and then I show cleaning the wool pad with a Spur and the foam pad with a Pad Conditioning Brush. Keep in mind that in a 10 minute video we have to cover a lot of information and sometimes there's not enough time to go over all the details of buffing out entire cars.

That said, anytime you're abrading paint you're going to have removed paint build-up on the face of your buffing pad and for this reason a good "Best Practice" is to always clean your pad often and after buffing a section always wipe the residue off before applying fresh product.

Just because I didn't include the above doesn't mean it's not a good idea, it's just a challenge to pack all the information into a video that's less than 10 minutes long.


Great question!

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Does AG not sell the optimum wool and foam pad specific to this system? I didn't see it on the website.

I'm not sure of the delivery status at this time but as soon as they are available then they will be listed. You can call Customer Care at 1-800-869-3011 for more information.

Great question!


:xyxthumbs:

 

[Chris Thomas]

Ive tried it already too and I love it. I have used it with the Flex D/A and Rotary. It works very well with both. I don't ever want to go back to tiny sections and dusting again.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Ive tried it already too and I love it. I have used it with the Flex D/A and Rotary. It works very well with both. I don't ever want to go back to tiny sections and dusting again.

Sweet! I just ordered some to use with my Flex 3401! :dblthumb2:

 

[Chris Thomas]

Only learning curve is spraying it on the pad, after you get that down (without hitting stuff behind the pad) it really feels like polishing "should" feel. I always hated doing small sections to keep the product from drying out. I swear I can do a large hood in only 3 sections with this stuff.

 

[Hoytman]

Hi Mr. Phillips,
I was reading this thread ...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...8542-mike-please-help-i-need-some-tricks.html

... where you were working on this beautiful 3/4 Chevy. I am curious how much product you used to finish this truck? It doesn't seem like a single bottle of comound and polish would go very far (meaning 1-2 cars/trucks). Can you give us some input on this please?

This product is expensive, but also time saving in more than one way.

Thanks!

Bill

 

[Mister B]

Hi Mr. Phillips,
I was reading this thread ...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...8542-mike-please-help-i-need-some-tricks.html

... where you were working on this beautiful 3/4 Chevy. I am curious how much product you used to finish this truck? It doesn't seem like a single bottle of comound and polish would go very far (meaning 1-2 cars/trucks). Can you give us some input on this please?

This product is expensive, but also time saving in more than one way.

Thanks!

Bill

I'm not Mike, but I can give you an example for how much product I personally used. I did a Chevy Suburban in the link below with Optimum Hyper Compound and Optimum Hyper Polish and I still have more than half a bottle left and that was a pretty large vehicle.

Suburban Paint Correction using Optimum Hyper Compound and Hyper Polish

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Hi Mr. Phillips,
I was reading this thread ...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...8542-mike-please-help-i-need-some-tricks.html

... where you were working on this beautiful 3/4 Chevy. I am curious how much product you used to finish this truck? It doesn't seem like a single bottle of compound and polish would go very far (meaning 1-2 cars/trucks). Can you give us some input on this please?

This product is expensive, but also time saving in more than one way.

Thanks!

Bill

Hi Bill,

First, the truck was really nice, it belongs to a local member of one of the local car clubs around West Palm Beach. I only sanded and cut the hood and a portion of the front fenders to give it a uniform, show car appearance.

The rest of the vertical sides need one of two procedures,

1. Sanded, cut and buffed
2. Major machine correction work

The owner wanted to learn how to do it himself so he could take care of not only this truck but his other street rod projects. I spent some time with the owner showing him how to machine polish to remove swirls and scratches and and he purchased a PC 7424XP and all the pads and chemicals to do it himself.

I did do a light machine polish and wax to the entire truck so it left here not only protected but with a much better and uniform appearance.

Haven't seen him or the truck since then...

Both the Hyper-Compound and the Hyper-Polish have a very long buffing cycle and the compound uses SMAT instead of DAT so it cuts for a long time too...

 

[Hoytman]

Took me forever to find this thread again.

I'm not Mike, but I can give you an example for how much product I personally used. I did a Chevy Suburban in the link below with Optimum Hyper Compound and Optimum Hyper Polish and I still have more than half a bottle left and that was a pretty large vehicle.

Suburban Paint Correction using Optimum Hyper Compound and Hyper Polish

Thank you for the information and pictures as proof! Nice work!

I was actually condisering using it on a black trailblazer (daily driver...outside 24/7), then topping with opt 2.0. I don't think the full correction on a daily driver would be worth it, after reading some of Mike's articles, without the opt 2.0 in place as protection. Of course, after the coating wash and care would most certainly have to change.

Actually wanting to do 2 vehicles, the trailblazer, and a Regal GS, both having been neglected for awhile now.

Hi Bill,

First, the truck was really nice, it belongs to a local member of one of the local car clubs around West Palm Beach. I only sanded and cut the hood and a portion of the front fenders to give it a uniform, show car appearance.

The rest of the vertical sides need one of two procedures,

1. Sanded, cut and buffed
2. Major machine correction work

The owner wanted to learn how to do it himself so he could take care of not only this truck but his other street rod projects. I spent some time with the owner showing him how to machine polish to remove swirls and scratches and and he purchased a PC 7424XP and all the pads and chemicals to do it himself.

I did do a light machine polish and wax to the entire truck so it left here not only protected but with a much better and uniform appearance.

Haven't seen him or the truck since then...

Both the Hyper-Compound and the Hyper-Polish have a very long buffing cycle and the compound uses SMAT instead of DAT so it cuts for a long time too...

Thanks for the reply Mr. Phillips.

I know there were several in the thread who had questions about using a DA with this new technology compound. Since you mentioned the owner purchasing a DA, can I assume a DA was used some with the optimum spray products?

That's some of the most beautiful paint I've ever seen. Sort of odd you haven't seen the fella since huh?

Bill