surbuff pads and gumming up

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I am sure that it was mostly user error but when I was polishing using Surbuff pads last weekend they sure gummed up quickly, I was cleaning after every pass but I only got about a 1/3 of the car before I had to switch pads. I kept using what I thought was a lot less product than I used with foam pads but I guess it ws still to much? Anyone else deal with this? I thought they worked fantastic though
 
Did you use less pressure then with foam pads? I haven't used mine yet but I know you don't want to really press on them like you do with foam pads.
 
Using a pad conditioning brush after each section works good. Only use the weight of the polisher. If you use too much pressure, they will have less cut and marr the paint more than necessary. You don't want the micro-fingers to bend, you want them to be upright as possible.
 
Can sur-buff pads cut down polishing times? Say a sur buff pad and go across the panel 3 times vs. a orange pad and go across 5 times? Using a smat product obviously. Any one tried this?
 
bodavenport said:
Can sur-buff pads cut down polishing times? Say a sur buff pad and go across the panel 3 times vs. a orange pad and go across 5 times? Using a smat product obviously. Any one tried this?
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From what I've read the sur-buff cuts much faster.
 
bodavenport said:
I am sure that it was mostly user error but when I was polishing using Surbuff pads last weekend they sure gummed up quickly, I was cleaning after every pass but I only got about a 1/3 of the car before I had to switch pads. I kept using what I thought was a lot less product than I used with foam pads but I guess it ws still to much? Anyone else deal with this? I thought they worked fantastic though
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What polisher were you using and what speed were you on?

Compressed air seems to clean them the best but even then you will likely use 3 or more pads on an averaged sized car. I think I used 5 pads when I did a CTS-V a few weeks ago (heavily marred).
 
I'm still trying to figure out these pads as well. They do cut very well, though. :props:
 
I have a griots v2 and was on speed 5 on a 2000 vette. Cut very well but I only had two so I would work until I could not any more and then clean them in dawn spin them let em dry overnight and go again. Took 3 days on the vette because of it I am ordering 4 more when I clean my super crew cab F 150 (black of course)
 
bodavenport said:
I have a griots v2 and was on speed 5 on a 2000 vette. Cut very well but I only had two so I would work until I could not any more and then clean them in dawn spin them let em dry overnight and go again. Took 3 days on the vette because of it I am ordering 4 more when I clean my super crew cab F 150 (black of course)
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Use speed 6.
 
It gets easier and you guys will for sure start using fewer pads as you guys get the trick to these pads.

Keep a still brush handy and clean them after each cycle of the KBM. Using the KBM helps a great amount to keeping them clean. Use very little product, about the size of a dime divided into 3 dots around the periphery, and very little water mist.

Regarding pressure, if you look at the pad while polishing you can tell it compresses easily. Any more pressure than just the machine weight is not really doing much to help since the foam backing on the Surbuf is so soft.

Also, I find that the Griots works better at speed 5 than at speed 6 for anything with M105. Speed 6 makes the polish flash too fast. Further, speed 5 makes the pad last longer ;)
 
jlb85 said:
It gets easier and you guys will for sure start using fewer pads as you guys get the trick to these pads.

Keep a still brush handy and clean them after each cycle of the KBM. Using the KBM helps a great amount to keeping them clean. Use very little product, about the size of a dime divided into 3 dots around the periphery, and very little water mist.

Regarding pressure, if you look at the pad while polishing you can tell it compresses easily. Any more pressure than just the machine weight is not really doing much to help since the foam backing on the Surbuf is so soft.

Also, I find that the Griots works better at speed 5 than at speed 6 for anything with M105. Speed 6 makes the polish flash too fast. Further, speed 5 makes the pad last longer ;)
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Are you saying that with the KBM on a surbuff pad, you don't prime the whole pad like with foam? And you don't use pressure like with foam?Feed back please
 
Rsurfer said:
Are you saying that with the KBM on a surbuff pad, you don't prime the whole pad like with foam? And you don't use pressure like with foam?Feed back please
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Hey dad, prime the pad and no pressure is needed. You will smush the little fibers and they can not do their job, so pressure. I have been using these pads for a long time polish our woodworking since these pads were first made for woodworking. Also check your local wood working store dad, they probably sell them there so it will be easier for you to acquire them.
 
ASPHALT ROCKET said:
Hey dad, prime the pad and no pressure is needed. You will smush the little fibers and they can not do their job, so pressure. I have been using these pads for a long time polish our woodworking since these pads were first made for woodworking. Also check your local wood working store dad, they probably sell them there so it will be easier for you to acquire them.
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Hi Son, long time no talk. When you say prime the pad, like the KBM?
 
Son? Dad? wow Dana you have been out of touch for a while :D
 
i find that if i don't completely strip my lsp before bufffing, my pads gum up faster.
 
Rsurfer said:
Are you saying that with the KBM on a surbuff pad, you don't prime the whole pad like with foam? And you don't use pressure like with foam?Feed back please
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Just doesn't quite sound like the KBM now does it?
 
I know everyone is sold on 105 with these pads because of the posts up on a lot of the forums but is anyone using other polishes besides 105 with these pads? If the polish requires misting I keep wondering if a longer working polish would simplify the process slightly?
 
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