Holograms!!

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I just walked by my car i buffed out and noticed some holograms. Its the first time ive buffed so im still trying to learn! I have a makita along with some meguiars 105/205! Now my question is, whats the best way to get rid of holograms? Is there an article i can read where it shows how to get rid of them? Or any of you who have comed across this, what would be the best way to get rid of them? Any help is great! Thanks!
 
I agree. Just take an orbital and some sealant or wax. Should be enough to remove anything left behind by 205. Although, you shouldn't be leaving anything behind with 205. You may have to change your pad when using it next time. :dblthumb2:
 
I agree. Just take an orbital and some sealant or wax. Should be enough to remove anything left behind by 205. Although, you shouldn't be leaving anything behind with 205. You may have to change your pad when using it next time. :dblthumb2:
when i buffed it out i had very poor lighting, it looked good, but now i see some minimum holograms! the thing is that i only have my makita as of this moment and cant buy a DA polisher... anything i can do to fix it with my makita?
 
when i buffed it out i had very poor lighting, it looked good, but now i see some minimum holograms! the thing is that i only have my makita as of this moment and cant buy a DA polisher... anything i can do to fix it with my makita?

I use my Makita for practically everything. I'm guessing the holograms can't be THAT bad if you're last step was 205.

It sounds like it could use another polish with a soft finishing pad. Go over it again with your softest pad, and whatever polish you have. Then throw some wax, or sealant on...you should be good. :dblthumb2:
 
I just walked by my car i buffed out and noticed some holograms. Its the first time ive buffed so im still trying to learn! I have a makita along with some meguiars 105/205! Now my question is, whats the best way to get rid of holograms? Is there an article i can read where it shows how to get rid of them? Or any of you who have comed across this, what would be the best way to get rid of them? Any help is great! Thanks!

Try another pass with a black lc pad. You should be able to remove the holograms pretty easily.
 
I use my Makita for practically everything. I'm guessing the holograms can't be THAT bad if you're last step was 205.

It sounds like it could use another polish with a soft finishing pad. Go over it again with your softest pad, and whatever polish you have. Then throw some wax, or sealant on...you should be good. :dblthumb2:
I have a soft finishing pad! would some po85rd do the trick?
 
I have a soft finishing pad! would some po85rd do the trick?

Absolutely. Just keep your rpms low, you don't wanna create heat. A nice slow polish with some 85rd should absolutely do the trick. You will need to apply wax or sealant after for protection. Good luck :dblthumb2:
 
Absolutely. Just keep your rpms low, you don't wanna create heat. A nice slow polish with some 85rd should absolutely do the trick. You will need to apply wax or sealant after for protection. Good luck :dblthumb2:

Ok buddy i will follow your tip! Ill follow it up with some wax! Thanks alot for taking the time to actually explain!
 
Absolutely. Just keep your rpms low, you don't wanna create heat. A nice slow polish with some 85rd should absolutely do the trick. You will need to apply wax or sealant after for protection. Good luck :dblthumb2:

And whenever you can hold the pad flat to the surface. Light pressure with your last cover passes with pretty much just the weight of the machine.

Also... very important... clean your pad after each section you buff. You need to remove any built-up and spent product before working with fresh product.

Make sure the paint surfaces are surgically clean and don't buff to a dry buff, you should always have a wet film of product on the surface.

Then wiping off residue with a clean, soft microfiber goes without saying...

:)
 
And whenever you can hold the pad flat to the surface. Light pressure with your last cover passes with pretty much just the weight of the machine.

Also... very important... clean your pad after each section you buff. You need to remove any built-up and spent product before working with fresh product.

Make sure the paint surfaces are surgically clean and don't buff to a dry buff, you should always have a wet film of product on the surface.

Then wiping off residue with a clean, soft microfiber goes without saying...

:)

So what are the causes of holograms? A dirty pad? Dry product? Because lets say for instance i only have m105/m205... How can i leave a hologram free finish?
 
the edge of the pad / dry buffing / etc. can cause those (holograms).

Do u have a da polisher? if so try the 205 w/ the softest pad you have.
 
So what are the causes of holograms? A dirty pad? Dry product? Because lets say for instance i only have m105/m205... How can i leave a hologram free finish?

A lot of things can cause holograms. Buffing at too high of a speed, aggressive pad, dirty pad, improper claying, etc etc.

Buffing hologram free is just one of those things that comes with practice I think. Of course you could nail it on the first try. But, it doesn't always work that way. Certain products work better with certain pads, at certain speeds. Sometimes it's just trial and error before you find what works best for you. :dblthumb2:
 
Some paints are more polishable than others, some are not... so sometimes it's not about yo, your skill your products, it's just hard to do.

Clear coats are scratch-sensitive, that is they are easily scratched. Having a pad rotating against it tends to impart very shallow circular swirls that are called rotary buffer swirls, rotary buffer trails or holograms.

:)
 
Some paints are more polishable than others, some are not... so sometimes it's not about yo, your skill your products, it's just hard to do.

Clear coats are scratch-sensitive, that is they are easily scratched. Having a pad rotating against it tends to impart very shallow circular swirls that are called rotary buffer swirls, rotary buffer trails or holograms.

:)

It makes perfecf sense what you are saying! the car had a $180 dollar clear that is no fancy thing! It scratches super easily! I did the same buffing procedure on my brothers car that has a $400 clear and it looks perfect! PPG clear is just mindblowing!
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Some paints are more polishable than others, some are not... so sometimes it's not about yo, your skill your products, it's just hard to do.

Clear coats are scratch-sensitive, that is they are easily scratched. Having a pad rotating against it tends to impart very shallow circular swirls that are called rotary buffer swirls, rotary buffer trails or holograms.

:)

Just curious - why would a spray wax or nano wax leave holograms then? I've had that problem before a few times.
 
Just curious - why would a spray wax or nano wax leave holograms then? I've had that problem before a few times.

I have run into something like this but with a different swipe of my MF the holograms changed... Make sure it is not just a film left behind.
 
Just curious - why would a spray wax or nano wax leave holograms then? I've had that problem before a few times.

Anytime paint is being touched... the potential exists to scratch it... your job is to reduce the potential and you do this by making sure your products are of the highest quality you can obtain, everything is clean and you use your best skill, ability and technique.


As for why would a spray wax or Nano wax leave holograms?

Investigate what's touching the paint. What's inside these products? Are they completely non-abrasive? What pad are you using? Is it clean and soft?

Also, like stated, the appearance of holograms could be the wax or paint sealant...

Do some testing and see if the holograms can be wiped off, if they can then it's the product that's creating the appearance of swirls/holograms, but the underlying paint is okay.


:)
 
Anytime paint is being touched... the potential exists to scratch it... your job is to reduce the potential and you do this by making sure your products are of the highest quality you can obtain, everything is clean and you use your best skill, ability and technique.


As for why would a spray wax or Nano wax leave holograms?

Investigate what's touching the paint. What's inside these products? Are they completely non-abrasive? What pad are you using? Is it clean and soft?

Also, like stated, the appearance of holograms could be the wax or paint sealant...

Do some testing and see if the holograms can be wiped off, if they can then it's the product that's creating the appearance of swirls/holograms, but the underlying paint is okay.


:)

Cool - thanx, it must be the quality of Nano Wax that I use - cause the holograms can be manipulated at times by wiping it with a micro fiber, but they won't fully go away (on darker cars) - Again this is why I don't use the stuff religiously, only every now and then. Thanx for the reply Mike - I'll have to try some of the better Nanos and go that route.
 
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