Got roof?

just because i dont see my roof of my escalade doesnt mean i dont want it to be done the same way as the rest of the car. thats like your house maid not cleaning under the couch because no one can see there. you have to get up there to protect it anyways, so spend the time to polish it, even if its a one step.
 
jslym777 said:
just because i dont see my roof of my escalade doesnt mean i dont want it to be done the same way as the rest of the car. thats like your house maid not cleaning under the couch because no one can see there. you have to get up there to protect it anyways, so spend the time to polish it, even if its a one step.
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I'm guessing you aren't familiar with what an AIO product is?
 
i meant something like menzerna power finish as a one step
 
jslym777 said:
id feel a little disappointed if i took my car somewhere and they didnt polish the roof of my car, just saying...
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Just to clarify...

I don't have a problem "polishing" the roof as long as the customer is willing to keep the cash flowing

I do hand wax the roof

Polishing ads no long laasting protection

CEE DOG said:
Step ladder if the vehicle is to tall otherwise.
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Been down that road ^ Thats a great way to break a bone/neck too

I have commercial scafolling I will drag out and setup should the need arise, but I also charge for whatever time this may take. Its not my fault you bought a big stupid truck...lol
 
i know it doesnt add any protection, but, i'd like to know my entire vehicle is getting equal treatment. if this is not the case it should be in the description of your detail that you treat the roof, on hard to reach vehicles, differently. i believe the customer assumes the roof will get the same treatment when he/she purchases a detail, you can't expect the customer to state that he wants the same attention to his roof.

use a ladder with a wide sturdy base and wide deep steps, works for me. i do the roof of any car/truck the same way i do the rest of the car, customer doesn't have to specify. it's part of the exterior, gets the same treatment.
 
Flash Gordon said:
Just to clarify...

I don't have a problem "polishing" the roof as long as the customer is willing to keep the cash flowing

I do hand wax the roof

Polishing ads no long laasting protection



Been down that road ^ Thats a great way to break a bone/neck too

I have commercial scafolling I will drag out and setup should the need arise, but I also charge for whatever time this may take. Its not my fault you bought a big stupid truck...lol
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I hate tall vehicles. Im with Flash, I wont polish it unless they are willing to cough up with more cash. I have yet to meet a client taller than me and I cant see the roof. Im 6'2". I do seal it to protect it but running a polisher up there is hard to do and takes much more time. And to make it more "fun" I love the ones that have the long black plastic rails in the middle so you have to use a smaller pad and be even more careful making the job more dedious. I charge by the hr so if they want it done then that is on their penny.
 
Flash Gordon said:
I skip the roof on Suburbans. I tell the customer in advance. If they really wanted me to do it, I would, but I see no point. Unless your 8' tall its not going to be seen. I've yet have anyone complain about doing it like this

All others recieve top to bottom coverage :)
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Hi me. Its been awhile :cheers:

jslym777 said:
i know it doesnt add any protection, but, i'd like to know my entire vehicle is getting equal treatment. if this is not the case it should be in the description of your detail that you treat the roof, on hard to reach vehicles, differently. i believe the customer assumes the roof will get the same treatment when he/she purchases a detail, you can't expect the customer to state that he wants the same attention to his roof.

use a ladder with a wide sturdy base and wide deep steps, works for me. i do the roof of any car/truck the same way i do the rest of the car, customer doesn't have to specify. it's part of the exterior, gets the same treatment.
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I believe I've already covered this area, but just in case...

PAR Detailing said:
I hate tall vehicles. Im with Flash, I wont polish it unless they are willing to cough up with more cash. I have yet to meet a client taller than me and I cant see the roof. Im 6'2". I do seal it to protect it but running a polisher up there is hard to do and takes much more time. And to make it more "fun" I love the ones that have the long black plastic rails in the middle so you have to use a smaller pad and be even more careful making the job more dedious. I charge by the hr so if they want it done then that is on their penny.
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:iagree:
 
I don't really do any correction on roofs. Except for cars, some trucks and crossovers. Usually the roof has a pattern in the body that just makes it impossible to correct anyways. Sometimes I just do from the top of the front windshield to the point where the dips that hold water come in.

But in cases where I'm not correcting...I just hand wax up top.
 
If it is a white or light colored vehicle I will use a paint cleaner to bring the color out. I am up front with the customer about it. Now on my new SUV, and on my fiancee's SUV it gets the full treatment.
 
I would just get 2-3 step ladder. It works nicely when I clay cars and should be the same when I need to polish a roof of a car or truck.
 
Prices Quoted from me to my clients include top to bottom,period! I don't care if they drive a Escort or a Excursion it gets my attention! Thats just me.
 
PAR Detailing said:
I hate tall vehicles. Im with Flash, I wont polish it unless they are willing to cough up with more cash. I have yet to meet a client taller than me and I cant see the roof. Im 6'2". I do seal it to protect it but running a polisher up there is hard to do and takes much more time. And to make it more "fun" I love the ones that have the long black plastic rails in the middle so you have to use a smaller pad and be even more careful making the job more dedious. I charge by the hr so if they want it done then that is on their penny.
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Exactly. Generally speaking I'll ask a client what their budget is and depending on the answer, if they have a tall vehicle I'll let them know doing a correction on the roof can take a lot of time and that cutting it down to an AIO or just a spray wax/sealant means I can spend more time working on some other area of the vehicle they're likely to notice instead.

I'd say about 95% of people choose to go the AIO route. As long as the roof is protected, that's what is most important.
 
Claying a roof is no biggie, compare to doing all these steps required to achieve what you looking for in correcting the roof.

Having a ladder sounds easy, but if you think about it you got to make sure the ladder is not too close to the paint from the side or you will end up damaging that. You have to be very positioned to have 100% control and a good grip on your DA or rotary so it doesn't come flying out of your hand and end up causing more damage.

Especially those SUV's that come with that nasty black rail is hard to get the middle. So for those who really do your roof Il be glad to hear more specifically tips in how to do the roof.
 
ExoticAutoDetai said:
Having a ladder sounds easy, but if you think about it you got to make sure the ladder is not too close to the paint from the side or you will end up damaging that. You have to be very positioned to have 100% control and a good grip on your DA or rotary so it doesn't come flying out of your hand and end up causing more damage.
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That is where the Vikes Twofold is great. It may not work for the mobile detailer, but, if you are working in your own garage, it is great. Stable and plenty of room to shuffle feet and get good position.
 
5.4 Shelby said:
That is where the Vikes Twofold is great. It may not work for the mobile detailer, but, if you are working in your own garage, it is great. Stable and plenty of room to shuffle feet and get good position.
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:xyxthumbs: I like how you stand strong on your answer. It should be able to fit in a van I am going to google it to see how long is it.
 
Ive never skipped out on the roof.... I use a 6 ft ladder at times and on smaller cars I just use one hand, my makita, and some skills lol. It may not be as "perfect" as the side panels - but it is definitely getting hit and protected :dblthumb2:
 
A ladder will work but you just have to be careful. Anything I'm working on someone car I make sure I put it down every time I'm done, so it won't accidentally hit the car.
 
i have a wide based and stepped ladder with a large tray on top so i can rest my machine and products there. the wide base allows me to lean and not worry about any tilt, its solid.

something like this
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