Can you finish off with M205

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Hi All

I have bought the Megs MF system with M105 + M205

Can you finish off with the M205 + Megs MF finishing pad.

I also have LCC pads, if the M205 + Megs MF Finishing pad leaves some swirls should I use a foam pad for less cut and to finish off?

Any advice very much appreciated.
 
It all depends on the paint surface. Softer paints typically don't finish down as well with 205. I have no experience with the Meguiars MF pads as I use a rotary 90% of the time... But I can finish down quite nicely with 205 on a hard paint like most GM vehicles...
 
Yes. There are many posts here on using 205 (or Menz 106 or 85RD) with the mf finishing pad. Reportedly works great.
 
When it comes to the final finishing I feel that foam does as better job on most paints and I find the MF pads can leave faint micro marring on some softer paints.

My normal process for following D300/MF is with M205/LC finishing foam pad. On some paints I may use something other than M205 to finish with, but I will always reach for the M205 first.
 
RaskyR1 said:
When it comes to the final finishing I feel that foam does as better job on most paints and I find the MF pads can leave faint micro marring on some softer paints.

My normal process for following D300/MF is with M205/LC finishing foam pad. On some paints I may use something other than M205 to finish with, but I will always reach for the M205 first.
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Do you not use D301 that often after D300?
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Do you not use D301 that often after D300?
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Rasky spoke to me about this last week, if you want better protection than D301 then you probably want to finish with another polish after D300 then your LSP. Topping D301 with another sealant/wax may affect it's ability to bond and stripping the D301 to apply a sealant seems like your going backwards...
 
So which Lake Country Pad should I use to finish off with the M205 incase some marks are left form the MF + m205?

White?
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Do you not use D301 that often after D300?
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I don't really cater to the type of clientele that only wants a quick polish, so I have yet to use it on a clients car. That being said, I would definitely use it if someone only wanted a basic/quick polish job. :props:
 
row011 said:
So which Lake Country Pad should I use to finish off with the M205 incase some marks are left form the MF + m205?

White?
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Depends on how well the first step finishes down, but usually a black (or crimson) pad is all you'll need.
 
RaskyR1 said:
When it comes to the final finishing I feel that foam does as better job on most paints and I find the MF pads can leave faint micro marring on some softer paints.

My normal process for following D300/MF is with M205/LC finishing foam pad. On some paints I may use something other than M205 to finish with, but I will always reach for the M205 first.
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so trying to jewel soft paint with 106fa or po85rd using a DA and MF finishing discs is a waste of time?

Don't think I'll be getting a rotary anytime soon...
 
embolism said:
so trying to jewel soft paint with 106fa or po85rd using a DA and MF finishing discs is a waste of time?

Don't think I'll be getting a rotary anytime soon...
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I wouldn't say it's a waste of time, as I've never actually tried using diminishing abrasive polishes with the MF pads yet, but my understanding is that the MF material itself is more aggressive then foam. So if you want the absolute best final finishing (jeweling), then foam is the way to go.
 
RaskyR1 said:
I wouldn't say it's a waste of time, as I've never actually tried using diminishing abrasive polishes with the MF pads yet, but my understanding is that the MF material itself is more aggressive then foam. So if you want the absolute best final finishing (jeweling), then foam is the way to go.
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Depends on the hardness of the paint, I'd say. I have tried 85RD with the MF finishing pads side-by-side with 85RD on finishing foam a couple times and while I could see a slight difference (with the edge going to the foam) on really soft paint, on a more "normal" medium-hard finish I couldn't really see a difference.

Just another of the many things that is situation-dependent and comes down to personal preference.
 
The fact of the matter is that every car's paint is different, even off the same assembly line...so you have to have a variety of options.

205 will finish down with a MF pad...as will many finishing polishes...BUT if the paint is soft, I would not use a MF pad for finishing. I've had great results with the MF finishing pads using Menzerna PO85RD and other finishing products as well as D301...but my paint is hard...which the MF pads are perfect for.

D301 will finish down beautifully with a foam pad as well...so I would say if you have soft paint...stick with a foam pad. If you have harder clear coat...the MF finishing discs will work great. I really like the MF discs and use them whenever I can...and only use foam when I HAVE to.
 
My black car and the gf's black car, when i was doing the correction work on them in order to apply the coatings, I found that foam finished down better with 106fa or PO85rd than the MF finishing pads, this was after correcting them with D300 and the MF cutting disks. I did some testing on the hood and trunk with these products, foam versus MF finishing disc and the results were noticeably better.

my 2 cents...
 
I just tried the MF system for the first time yesterday on a honda s2000 trunk. I think it has soft paint? I got the d300/cutting pads to finish down LSP ready in my eyes. I then taped off a section and tried m205 on the finishing pads and saw that it kind of hazed the paint when comparing it. Im guessing the m205/finishing pad does not finish well on soft paint as people have been saying. But I dont understand how d300/cutting pad finished better? I went back over the test spot with the d300 and it took out the haze.
 
J504 said:
I just tried the MF system for the first time yesterday on a honda s2000 trunk. I think it has soft paint? I got the d300/cutting pads to finish down LSP ready in my eyes. I then taped off a section and tried m205 on the finishing pads and saw that it kind of hazed the paint when comparing it. Im guessing the m205/finishing pad does not finish well on soft paint as people have been saying. But I dont understand how d300/cutting pad finished better? I went back over the test spot with the d300 and it took out the haze.
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Yeh it may turn out that the finishing mf pad with 205 will not work out as the final process so I could go over it quickly with a black lcc pad

But could I please goback to the question

Can you finish off with m205 is this what the product is designed for, and has anyone done this?

Reason I'm trying to check is that once I get all the goods and start the repair process I don't want to regret not buying something I needed :)

Thanks all
 
row011 said:
Yeh it may turn out that the finishing mf pad with 205 will not work out as the final process so I could go over it quickly with a black lcc pad

But could I please goback to the question

Can you finish off with m205 is this what the product is designed for, and has anyone done this?

Reason I'm trying to check is that once I get all the goods and start the repair process I don't want to regret not buying something I needed :)

Thanks all
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Yes and no. M205 was originally designed to be used with foam pads for final finishing.

It really all comes down to the paint you're working on, but yes, others have tried it with good results on the MF pads. However, as I noted in my original reply, foam is typically going to be the better option when you're looking for the abosolute best possible finish, especially on softer paints.

Hope this helps,
Rasky
 
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