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I noticed thar the size of the back plate I received was not 5 in but 4.5 inches. Aftet using 6.5 orange pad for about 30 minutes it burned on the velcro area. The black and white no problems. In my humble opinion 2 inches of play is way too much. I used a newone and the 2nd one burnned in about 5 minutes.

Any ideas?

Pat
 
Welcome to AG first of all!!

What product did you use on the pad and how much?
 
monito said:
I noticed thar the size of the back plate I received was not 5 in but 4.5 inches. Aftet using 6.5 orange pad for about 30 minutes it burned on the velcro area. The black and white no problems. In my humble opinion 2 inches of play is way too much. I used a newone and the 2nd one burnned in about 5 minutes.

Any ideas?

Pat
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6.5 pads on a 5inch plate is your problem........you need a 6inch backing plate
 
If your humble opinion was that 2" of overhang was too much and after burning the velcro, why did you jump in the fire again? Yeah Pat, my idea is to get the right size backing plate and pad.
monito said:
I noticed thar the size of the back plate I received was not 5 in but 4.5 inches. Aftet using 6.5 orange pad for about 30 minutes it burned on the velcro area. The black and white no problems. In my humble opinion 2 inches of play is way too much. I used a newone and the 2nd one burnned in about 5 minutes.

Any ideas?

Pat
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monito said:
I noticed thar the size of the back plate I received was not 5 in but 4.5 inches. Aftet using 6.5 orange pad for about 30 minutes it burned on the velcro area. The black and white no problems. In my humble opinion 2 inches of play is way too much. I used a newone and the 2nd one burnned in about 5 minutes.

Any ideas?

Pat
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Hi,

Welcome to AGO!
It would be nice if you can upload a photo showing the burning of your pad, about how the velcro was burnt.
While you are supposed to use a 6 inch backing plate for 6.5 inch pad, it should not make your pad burn due to that reason alone. I have used a 7 inch pad on a 5 inch backing plate before with no problem. Please describe the product and procedure used, how long and how hard you pressed on the machine during the process.
If you keep pressing on the same spot, you can make the pad / paint very hot even with DA.

Cheers,
:props:
 
Honestly I think backing plate burning / melting is heat coming from the polisher / spindle assembly.
 
Pad type? Backing plate type? Short or long loop backing plate? Sounds like operator error to me.:props:
 
We can guess further, but obviously more info is needed to provide the opinion.
 
What polisher are you using? I currently use the Flex and they do generate a bit of heat and some pads just can't take it...
 
Thanks for all of the comments.

I bought a Porter Cable (PC 7424XP) kit from AG which comes with a 5 in backing plate (BP) (mine measured 4.5 in its black) with 6.5 in pads.

When I first started using the pad it worked like a charm. Followed the directions from Mike and added a piece of white masking tape to know when the pad was rotating. So every time I noticed that the pad was not rotating I would immediately pull back.

I used Pinnacle Swirl Remover at 5.5 setting on the PC just like the video. The orange side is perfect, now I have 2 burned pads (ouch $25) I wish they would include the 6 in BP with the PC.

I did use the washer in between...

Thanks

Pat
 
Going by the pictures you posted it looks like the pad is being worked to long with to much pressure being applied. I would recommend using at least 3 pads per step when polishing a vehicle. No problem using a 5" backing plate with 6.5" pads. Most of the PC-7424xp Kits come with 6.5" pads and 5" backing plate.
 
Bobby B. said:
Going by the pictures you posted it looks like the pad is being worked to long with to much pressure being applied. I would recommend using at least 3 pads per step when polishing a vehicle. No problem using a 5" backing plate with 6.5" pads. Most of the PC-7424xp Kits come with 6.5" pads and 5" backing plate.
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I actually used the 2nd orange pad for 2 x 6 passes and it failed 5 mins (I'm guessing) making sure pad was rotating.

Thanks,

-pat

PS Penny in customer service is absolutely awesome...
 
monito said:
I actually used the 2nd orange pad for 2 x 6 passes and it failed 5 mins (I'm guessing) making sure pad was rotating.

Thanks,

-pat

PS Penny in customer service is absolutely awesome...
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Monito I have the same problem. Its like the pad looks all puffy on the outside because its too much overhang. I have called and left a message for the customer service. My orange pad blew a gasket quickly but the white and grey are fine. I think they should give us 6" backing plates with 6.5 inch pads. Too much overhang. I wouldnt complain except for the fact that It made it thru the whole car on 5 then when i bumped it to 5.5 it started smelling like someone was melting plastic and it was my darn pad. only 25 lbs of pressure. Crazy...
 
From the pics its painfully obvious you were using the wrong backing plate. If this is what was sent to you as a kit, the fault lies on Autogeek. If you "custom" built this setup yourself, the fault lies on you!
 
Flash Gordon said:
From the pics its painfully obvious you were using the wrong backing plate. If this is what was sent to you as a kit, the fault lies on Autogeek. If you "custom" built this setup yourself, the fault lies on you!
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Its the autogeek swirl remover package. They give you these big pads with a smaller backing plate because they say its for a larger margin of error which I can believe is a good idea but it also can turn really bad quickly. I just called and talked to Matt and he took care of it immediately and got me a new pad and I ordered some 5.5 inch pads for the 5 inch backing plate and 6 inch for the 6.5's.
 
Flash Gordon said:
From the pics its painfully obvious you were using the wrong backing plate. If this is what was sent to you as a kit, the fault lies on Autogeek. If you "custom" built this setup yourself, the fault lies on you!
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I would disagree, they are the expert not us. If they put a kit together they should put the right backing plate. I bought the 6" backing plste and all is good now.

Pat
 
Why would you get 5.5" pads and 6.5"pads? I would have gotten 5.5" pads and 4" pads.
Vellie said:
Its the autogeek swirl remover package. They give you these big pads with a smaller backing plate because they say its for a larger margin of error which I can believe is a good idea but it also can turn really bad quickly. I just called and talked to Matt and he took care of it immediately and got me a new pad and I ordered some 5.5 inch pads for the 5 inch backing plate and 6 inch for the 6.5's.
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