Blackfire Crystal Seal - The 11 Minute Paint Sealant

Quick Question, which is not obvious to me at this time while I build my BF order :xyxthumbs:

What are the primary differences of these two products?

BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection
BLACKFIRE Crystal Seal Paint Sealant

thanks!
 
sillybinaries said:
Quick Question, which is not obvious to me at this time while I build my BF order :xyxthumbs:

What are the primary differences of these two products?

BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection
BLACKFIRE Crystal Seal Paint Sealant

thanks!
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Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection is a liquid paint sealant that utilizes some of the most advanced polymers available. Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection is designed to be applied by hand or machine, and for best results it should dry to a haze for 20-30 minutes before removal.

Blackfire Crystal Seal is an advanced spray sealant that shares much of its polymer base with Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection. Crystal Seal requires no buffing as the product goes on crystal clear. Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection has an advantage in both shine AND protection, but Crystal Seal is less time consuming to apply.

Both excellent products that take a different approach to paint protection. If you want the best of both worlds, apply a coat of Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection and then apply a coat of Crystal Seal about a month later. Prepare to create whiplash. :dblthumb2:
 
Great thing about WOWA sealants is the speed. I am strongly considering replacing the spray wax in my basic package with a WOWA sealant. I can raise the price slightly, and in the end have a happier customer.
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection is a liquid paint sealant that utilizes some of the most advanced polymers available. Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection is designed to be applied by hand or machine, and for best results it should dry to a haze for 20-30 minutes before removal.

Blackfire Crystal Seal is an advanced spray sealant that shares much of its polymer base with Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection. Crystal Seal requires no buffing as the product goes on crystal clear. Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection has an advantage in both shine AND protection, but Crystal Seal is less time consuming to apply.

Both excellent products that take a different approach to paint protection. If you want the best of both worlds, apply a coat of Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection and then apply a coat of Crystal Seal about a month later. Prepare to create whiplash. :dblthumb2:
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Thank you for the great clarification. :xyxthumbs:
 
Ah, I see - might have to give the spray on the paint application a go myself, thanks!
 
umi000 said:
Ah, I see - might have to give the spray on the paint application a go myself, thanks!
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Once you give Crystal Seal a try I'm confident you will reach for it often. :dblthumb2:
 
I am putting together an order and figured I'd try out the Blackfire products (always used Meguiars consumer products in the past)... but now I think I've confused myself! (not too hard) Looking for confirmation or feedback before I order...

Looking for a beautiful and durable finish for daily drivers (slate green BMW, white Mercedes, black Audi). I was planning on washing, claying, and then finishing with BF Total Polish and Seal... (looks like a single step finish)

I'm assuming after the TP&S step, I could follow up with Crystal Seal for a second coat (adding an extra layer of durability)? And then also use this on my wheels and windshield...

And then use the BF Wet Diamond Waterless Wash weekly to keep them clean... and the BF Polymer Spray every so often to bring back the "pop". (Do I need this step?)

Do I have this right? Too many products... took me a while to sort this out... Thanks!

Now I wish there was a waterless way to wash my wheels (I used to use the Meguiars Quik Wheels waterless wash with good success).
 
BfisherNC said:
I am putting together an order and figured I'd try out the Blackfire products (always used Meguiars consumer products in the past)... but now I think I've confused myself! (not too hard) Looking for confirmation or feedback before I order...

Looking for a beautiful and durable finish for daily drivers (slate green BMW, white Mercedes, black Audi). I was planning on washing, claying, and then finishing with BF Total Polish and Seal... (looks like a single step finish)

I'm assuming after the TP&S step, I could follow up with Crystal Seal for a second coat (adding an extra layer of durability)? And then also use this on my wheels and windshield...

And then use the BF Wet Diamond Waterless Wash weekly to keep them clean... and the BF Polymer Spray every so often to bring back the "pop". (Do I need this step?)

Do I have this right? Too many products... took me a while to sort this out... Thanks!

Now I wish there was a waterless way to wash my wheels (I used to use the Meguiars Quik Wheels waterless wash with good success).
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No you have it correct - I just did this this week and the results are astounding - see my post here - I followed this post with crystal seal and it enhanced it even more:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/46032-blackfire-50-min-detail.html
 
thanks for the confirmation - just checked out your thread - wow! Thanks!
 
Looks promising, any feedback as to durability?
 
Hi Nick,

Does Crystal Seal (or opti-seal for this matter) have longer durability than normal spray waxes such as UQW, Optimum Car Wax, etc?

Also, does this product require to be shaken often like traditional sealants?
 
Marc08EX said:
Hi Nick,

Does Crystal Seal (or opti-seal for this matter) have longer durability than normal spray waxes such as UQW, Optimum Car Wax, etc?

Also, does this product require to be shaken often like traditional sealants?
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Generally sealants are more durable than waxes, and this is the case when comparing the products you mentioned. :dblthumb2:
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
So long as the surface is properly prepped, you can easily expect 3-4 months.
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one more thing. when it's time to reapply do you have to re-polish etc? or if the paint is in good condition(no scratches etc) can this just be resprayed after a good wash?
 
kingofsorrow said:
one more thing. when it's time to reapply do you have to re-polish etc? or if the paint is in good condition(no scratches etc) can this just be resprayed after a good wash?
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great question - my plan is to strip everything every 90 days and reapply since it so easy...
 
kingofsorrow said:
one more thing. when it's time to reapply do you have to re-polish etc? or if the paint is in good condition(no scratches etc) can this just be resprayed after a good wash?
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Unless you plan on applying a second coat of Crystal Seal a week or two after the first coat, I would always recommend using a pre-wax polish before applying more. This stands true with all waxes and sealants that don't contain cleaners. :props:
 
I just used this tonight and even if there's no light outside, I can tell that the paint was a lot shinier after the application of crystal seal. I can't wait to see it tomorrow once the sun rises.

Quick question Nick, how do you clean the MF applicator pad that comes with it? Do you just rinse it with water and in effect, it stops the curing process of the product (like OC2.0) or would you recommend an APC to clean it out?

Thanks.
 
Marc08EX said:
I just used this tonight and even if there's no light outside, I can tell that the paint was a lot shinier after the application of crystal seal. I can't wait to see it tomorrow once the sun rises.

Quick question Nick, how do you clean the MF applicator pad that comes with it? Do you just rinse it with water and in effect, it stops the curing process of the product (like OC2.0) or would you recommend an APC to clean it out?

Thanks.
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I clean out my foam and microfiber applicators with Pinnacle XMT Pad Cleaner. :dblthumb2:
 
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