opticoat 2.0 topper / reload-permanon ?

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who's the guru on this matter ? as I been determined to top opticoat 2.0 with either reload or permanon .I have seen and read different application methods so what's the best application method of these 2 products ? perm diluted for 5% solution can give a lot of applications . reload I have seen can be diluted also 1:1 , but should it be ? seems permanon is more cost effective with the dilution ratio of it. for reload , how many application can u get out of a bottle and how often u need to apply or reapply ? so looking for some help and guidance in these products to determine which way to go . thanks in advance .


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Richy and Old Tiger are the Permanon gurus. Hopefully they will chime in.
 
I have used both products and LOVE them both. For me I like them for different applications though. For what your talking about on paint I prefer Reload. For my wheels, calipers, wheel wells, and anywhere else that is intricate permanon is a great tool due to the spray, rinse, blow dry method I employ.

Reload is definitely much cheaper per application. I love Permanon but only seem to get about half the durability that I get from Reload on my paint. Strangely I get great durability on my wheels, calipers, and wells. I have some videos and comparisons with my experiences but I can't link them as I don't think I posted them here out of respect for permanon not being sold by AG.

Actually I just remembered one of them might have made it here. Let me try to find it.

I can tell you Richy and Dad both love Permanon over OC and I look forward to their comments as well.
 
Having used both permanon and reload, I would vote for reload. The durability of permanon is lacking in my opinion.
 
I have to get some ReLoad. Sounds like great stuff.
 
calling richy and old tiger for some input
 
Permanon on paint is a waste, only last around a month, but like Corey said on wheels and glass it seems to bond much better, so my vote is reload on paint
 
Porsche Pilot said:
Richy and Old Tiger are the Permanon gurus. Hopefully they will chime in.
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CEE DOG said:
I have used both products and LOVE them both. For me I like them for different applications though. For what your talking about on paint I prefer Reload. For my wheels, calipers, wheel wells, and anywhere else that is intricate permanon is a great tool due to the spray, rinse, blow dry method I employ.

Reload is definitely much cheaper per application. I love Permanon but only seem to get about half the durability that I get from Reload on my paint. Strangely I get great durability on my wheels, calipers, and wells. I have some videos and comparisons with my experiences but I can't link them as I don't think I posted them here out of respect for permanon not being sold by AG.

Actually I just remembered one of them might have made it here. Let me try to find it.

I can tell you Richy and Dad both love Permanon over OC and I look forward to their comments as well.
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My son is right . I prefer Permanon.
I get good durability over OC. The look is fantastic!
Initially, I put Permanon Platinum (PP) in a 2.5 oz Finger pump mister. I spray ~ 2sqft area. I wipe it off with a Griots disposable MF towel. It will waterproof a n MF! I buff with a plush long pile MF. I apply only to paint this way and wipe off immediately. I mix a 5% solution and apply to glass and wheels until it starts to run off. I wipe the glass dry with a disposable MF. I blow dry the wheels and wells with my MB.
Dont cringe but I wash the first 2 or 3 times with ONLY water. The Brits taught me this. Most all washes off with the hose and I wash with a plush MF dipped in water, Dry with the MB but could blot with a foam core wwmf, my towel of choice. This SEEMS to enhance durability. Truth is I boost all with a 5 % solution when the mood strikes me. I am an AutoGeek. I care about appearance only. I cant leave my cars alone enough to ever assess durability. I dont need Aquapel anymore with PP!
I have no doubt about ReLoad being more economical or durable. IMO it doesnt look as good as PP. A good friend of mine with a black truck couldnt apply ReLoad without streaking. He is a much better detailer than me!

Bottom Line is best cost and durability go to ReLoad!
Best Look to me is PP. I mix a 5% solution with 10% IPA for all my interior non porous surfaces too!
Hope this helps!


Ed, thanks! You are way too kind!
 
Can someone explain to me what permanon is? The website seems to describe a coating of sorts.

Are reload and permanon a way to get out your waxing jollies when you car has OC applied to it?
 
timaishu said:
Can someone explain to me what permanon is? The website seems to describe a coating of sorts.

Are reload and permanon a way to get out your waxing jollies when you car has OC applied to it?
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They are both nano sealants. Permanon adds a glass look to OC without adversely affecting the properties that we love about OC.
 
Old Tiger said:
They are both nano sealants. Permanon adds a glass look to OC without adversely affecting the properties that we love about OC.
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Take what Jim says to the bank, he is the Jedi Master of nano coatings!! :props:
 
BobbyG said:
Take what Jim says to the bank, he is the Jedi Master of nano coatings!! :props:
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Thanks for the kind words Bob! I am happy to see a lot more interest in coatings this year! I wont even use a traditional sealant or wax anymore. Cant take the dust and pollen!
 
Old Tiger said:
Thanks for the kind words Bob! I am happy to see a lot more interest in coatings this year! I wont even use a traditional sealant or wax anymore. Cant take the dust and pollen!
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If everything goes according to plan, I will be trying Element 119 on my daughters black 2011 Hyundai Elantra...:props:
 
thanks guys for the input . I'm still torn between the two which means I'll just have to get both . lol . as I love the protection and durability of opticoat , I still like to have some "pop" to it though which seems these silica nano sealants will give that ? I'm not to worried about durability as opticoat will always be there when reload/permanon wears off . I just can't opticoat and then not touch my ride again . I need to be able to upkeep it somewhat as if I would wax every month . as of now I only have my truck partially opticoated just so I can wax and keep it looking fresh . all this on a dd . why ? because I can and I'm OCD in too many ways of neat and clean . wish I could make up my mind . but it's gonna be Hell Ya ! one of these should make me happy .
 
Psssssst.....Chad, I have both too! :laughing:

Element 119 - Check!
Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 - Check!
 
I looked at 119 too . lol . one thing at a time. per week . u just keep telling me all this fancy stuff . u really got me goin on a hobby I enjoy so much. I thank you for that . hopefully I'll still be able to hold up a polisher when I get to 70 and that's a ways away .
 
poweraid said:
hopefully I'll still be able to hold up a polisher when I get to 70 and that's a ways away .
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Not saying I can still do anything with a polisher...But I'm still capable of at least 'holding up' one.

HMMM...If these "Coatings" turn out to be: "The Real Mccoys"...Perhaps, then, I won't have to be 'holding up' a polisher as often.
Would allow what remaining 'holding-up-powers' I do possess for other duties. Depends on the situation, I suppose.





:)

Bob
 
will using reload ruin the mf towels used to spread/buff ? can they be washed and put back into action for whatever reason or maybe just keep them as dedicated reload only towel?
 
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