Employment issues - any and all advice welcome!

LOL - I here ya on the makes me sick part lol - had a guy that just skiddattled always cry about how he is hurting on money.... This guy was like 26 years old, never left his mom and dads house, had no bills other than his cell phone, yet this guy cried DAILY about his money situation. I've got 5 kids total - kiss my %$# lol. We actually told him in the last week to quit complaining about money cause we were paying him great money and it was annoying us that he didn't realize how great he had it. Im getting super serious from now on - the last couple of guys ruined it for the future for sure :bat:

If it is any consolation, it is not much better in corporate America. Our new employees whine, complain, email eachother, and text all day. They were worried about how many breaks they were going to get each day.

We will be hiring again in 6 weeks. I am going to grill the next group. We can't afford to keep hiring people who are lazy.
 
Hard work pays off, it does not come easy, but it surely pays off!

Hope so man lol!



Of course, there's the chances of him pirating your clients. :D On the other hand, the best scenario is him becoming your Padawan, starting a business of his own (in some other place or sharing the market with you), and you will be proud of his success.

Never worried much about this at all..... I have said it before but will say it again ---- I have tapped about .01% of the business in Middle TN, it would take 1000 employees plus to be the Don of detailing here lol. Im all about locals doing their thing and producing clients - does not effect me at all :dblthumb2:

If it is any consolation, it is not much better in corporate America. Our new employees whine, complain, email eachother, and text all day. They were worried about how many breaks they were going to get each day.

We will be hiring again in 6 weeks. I am going to grill the next group. We can't afford to keep hiring people who are lazy.

SAD - Very SAD!
 
Well - you would've had a great opportunity my friend..... not sure why others don't see this?!?! I need someone to basically take care of my clients in the field so I can start subsidiaries or produce contracts - no one seems to understand how big I plan on growing this company and how great it would be to get in early lol :confused:

Mr. Anthony, I've read through this thread in full and I'm not suprised your having a hard time finding an employee that is dedicated, passionate, skilled and truely wants to work in this industry - because you haven't had the opportunity to interview me.

As the former sole (for the most part) detailer to a body shop side of one of the leading Corvette dealerships in the Nation (PM if you want the dealership name) I understand your business is having growing pains and I believe I'm the employee to help you in the "field". My job's included tasks and required skills, such as wetsanding, D.A. and rotary buffing, compressed air tools (ie. Torandor, Foamers, Grinders - molding removers), use of eletric powerwasher, keeping paint booths, the shop and the work enviroment clean, and chef for our friday shop cook-outs. :drool:

The detailing industy has many companies all trying to find someone who fits or can be molded into what their company brings to the market. While each has there own priorites (production, quality) theres a fundamental ingredient that is required to produce and prosper a detailing business, one that your company has found - Dedication and pride in what you do. I have this pride and dedication, many others however, as your employee search continues, do not.


PS: While this is a genuine offer, I understand I'm in Illinois and your location in Tennesse, I offer you me, if you decide eventually to look outside your surrounding employee poll and hire an employee who doesn't cut corners, who's dedicated about an art and passion and who's willing to make this move to continue to help an growing business who's reputation is nothing but stellar and wants to grow along with the B&B Detailing. All great rewards, come from great challenges. This is a leap I'd be willing to take. PM for more 1on1.


Honestly the real issue is the type of people they are, you can teach anyone to detail but if they are slackers in life it does not matter how much you can teach or offer them. If they can't get to work on time or show some care and respect just cut your loss early.

This I almost completely agree with. My boss hired his son to assist me during my time in school. While he had a good work ethic to begin with, it faultered a few months later after he begin to think the job was below him.

You can teach anyone to detail, but they must have a good work ethic which I believe can be influenced with what your job is. Anyone who gets a job is happy, but after a short time those who don't have the passion and dedication of what they are doing will show signs, my boss's son did. He's quality dropped off, he's arrival times, he's dedication and passion for what he like to do and appricated went down the drain.


I would hire based on how they come across and act vs having any detailing skills. That way you get a good employee that can be taught how to detail the way you want them to.

Then they, I believe, have to have a passion and drive to continue in this field.


Im always fair for sure - but I can say that I can be somewhat more of a friend than a boss..... I think that gives some people the impression [kind is weak]. I will not make this mistake again - No matter where I worked in my past, if I stopped enjoying who I worked for I would up and move on. I try to remember this when I hire - but I think I may have been a rarity lol - cause these people take advantage of the situation instead of embracing it as a great place to work. :nomore:

I agree with you Anthony. When I got out of high school I worked two jobs to pay for my local college (then transferred to a 4 year) I work at a State Park where I know my two boss's personal and their son's through high school. I love the fact there was this close knit group of employees and bossess who treated each other like family.

Make no mistake our bosses made it known who was the "Boss", but this didn't take away from the family atmosphere we all felt and loved. My job at the dealership was the same, expect no friends I grow up with, only friends I also considered family who truley where passionate and dedicated to what they did. Both these place where greatest places I've ever worked and sounds like you have just an amazing place to call "work" :xyxthumbs:
 
Mr. Anthony (I'm keeping this to a formal basis), I've read through this thread in full and I'm not suprised your having a hard time finding an employee that is dedicated, passionate, skilled and truely wants to work in this industry - because you haven't had the opportunity to interview me.

As the former sole (for the most part) detailer to a body shop side of one of the leading Corvette dealerships in the Nation (PM if you want the dealership name) I understand your business is having growing pains and I believe I'm the employee to help you in the "field". My job's included tasks and required skills, such as wetsanding, D.A. and rotary buffing, compressed air tools (ie. Torandor, Foamers, Grinders - molding removers), use of eletric powerwasher, keeping paint booths, the shop and the work enviroment clean, and chef for our friday shop cook-outs. :drool:

The detailing industy has many companies all trying to find someone who fits or can be molded into what their company brings to the market. While each has there own priorites (production, quality) theres a fundamental ingredient that is required to produce and prosper a detailing business, one that your company has found - Dedication and pride in what you do. I have this pride and dedication, many others however, as your employee search continues, do not.


PS: While this is a genuine offer, I understand I'm in Illinois and your location in Tennesse, I offer you me, if you decide eventually to look outside your surrounding employee poll and hire an employee who doesn't cut corners, who's dedicated about an art and passion and who's willing to make this move to continue to help an growing business who's reputation is nothing but stellar and wants to grow along with the B&B Detailing. All great rewards, come from great challenges. This is a leap I'd be willing to take. PM for more 1on1.




Then they, I believe, have to have a passion and drive to continue in this field.




I agree with you Anthony. When I got out of high school I worked two jobs to pay for my local college (then transferred to a 4 year) I work at a State Park where I know my two boss's personal and their son's through high school. I love the fact there was this close knit group of employees and bossess who treated each other like family.

Make no mistake our bosses made it known who was the "Boss", but this didn't take away from the family atmosphere we all felt and loved. My job at the dealership was the same, expect no friends I grow up with, only friends I also considered family who truley where passionate and dedicated to what they did. Both these place where greatest places I've ever worked and sounds like you have just an amazing place to call "work" :xyxthumbs:

About to PM you
 
Anthony you'll have to keep us updated on the situation.
 
Anthony you'll have to keep us updated on the situation.

Well we just got a guy out of necessity fairly quickly from a recommendation, and he seems like he is going to be great! We kept saying we wanted a guy like Joel (recommended by Luxury Detail in Florida - an AG brother) - who was a hardworker, great guy, and seem to care about about doing a great job..... this guy already reminds us so much of Joel lol. He just moved here from L.A. and was needing work - I asked which 2 days off he would like and he said to work him everyday so he can learn quicker (started him at a set weekly rate) so I was shocked. He also lives about 15 secs from me so being late shouldn't be an issue. All in all, it looks like he may be a great new team member - but then again time will tell.

We decided after getting around 25 total resumes, and only 1 response to the follow up email from those that sent resumes - that we were going to interview that 1 guy plus 2 others. Well when our schedual looked like this :

Weds : 2 Semis, 2 full interior details
Thursday : 1 Semi, 2 buses (exterior polishes and full interiors)
Friday : 3 one step polishes/full interiors auto
Sat : 1 one step/full interior, 1 31ft boat needing compounding/polishing and carpets
steamed
Sun : 1 one step/full interior
Mon : Booked with regular clients + 2 Semis


Me and Tyson looked at this and say, we need someone now lol. And these don't include those random rental car calls (which) I just got one lol in the middle of writing this. So hopefully we can alleviate a lot of exhaustion with this new guy.
 
Well we just got a guy out of necessity fairly quickly from a recommendation, and he seems like he is going to be great! We kept saying we wanted a guy like Joel (recommended by Luxury Detail in Florida - an AG brother) - who was a hardworker, great guy, and seem to care about about doing a great job..... this guy already reminds us so much of Joel lol. He just moved here from L.A. and was needing work - I asked which 2 days off he would like and he said to work him everyday so he can learn quicker (started him at a set weekly rate) so I was shocked. He also lives about 15 secs from me so being late shouldn't be an issue. All in all, it looks like he may be a great new team member - but then again time will tell.

We decided after getting around 25 total resumes, and only 1 response to the follow up email from those that sent resumes - that we were going to interview that 1 guy plus 2 others. Well when our schedual looked like this :

Weds : 2 Semis, 2 full interior details
Thursday : 1 Semi, 2 buses (exterior polishes and full interiors)
Friday : 3 one step polishes/full interiors auto
Sat : 1 one step/full interior, 1 31ft boat needing compounding/polishing and carpets
steamed
Sun : 1 one step/full interior
Mon : Booked with regular clients + 2 Semis


Me and Tyson looked at this and say, we need someone now lol. And these don't include those random rental car calls (which) I just got one lol in the middle of writing this. So hopefully we can alleviate a lot of exhaustion with this new guy.

I like it. I like it a lot. I hope he works out as hoped. Good luck, and stay busy brotha! :dblthumb2:
 
I like it. I like it a lot. I hope he works out as hoped. Good luck, and stay busy brotha! :dblthumb2:

Thanks man - I think everything will work out one way or the other..... My goal is to double this workload by late summer, we'll see?!?!
 
There is some great advice here. I wish there was a reputable detail shop in my area so I could possibly earn a job there.

Of course when i saw this thread I totally want to work for you lol. But starting my own business here just makes it seem more difficult if you need an extra hand. I hope you can find the right guy that is willing to put in hours of hard and dedicated time.
 
There is some great advice here. I wish there was a reputable detail shop in my area so I could possibly earn a job there.

Of course when i saw this thread I totally want to work for you lol. But starting my own business here just makes it seem more difficult if you need an extra hand. I hope you can find the right guy that is willing to put in hours of hard and dedicated time.

I think it just takes time to find the right guys - its almost exactly like dating lol..... the last one only lasted a month, If I find the right one we will hold a ceremony that ends with, "Till debt do us part" :o
 
Im in the same boat as you just hired and fired 2 guys because they left in the middle of a job.
 
LMAO - "time will tell" quoting myself here ---- a week and a half in and the new guy that seems like a great worker, has been on time everyday, and seems to be a great guy is now basically done lol. Nothing to do with him, his MOTHER came and talked to me about how we are working her son to much! His Mother! This is a 31 year old man :eek:. He comes to me this morning and says, "Hey Anthony, My mom wants to meet with you." Cool, thats nice I think. She came over with the coldest look on her face and a print out of the hours that he is working. We were giving this man a set 5 day schedule and he said ,"Work me everyday so I can learn quicker." Great Im thinking, this guy wants to learn the ins and outs. While his mother is explaining to me that we are over working her son, he just stood back behind her like a 3 year looking scared. What is that?!?!?! Then when she realized that she was getting shut out, she walked away - his response was ,"I had to grow up with that!" Well, I hired him, not his mother - and Im not dealing with that kind of garbage lol. I've NEVER seen anything like that! NEVER!
 
Too funny. So he complained to his mother and then pretended he had nothing to do with it. People!
 
Wow that is crazy

I am 32 and could never see this happening. Maybe with a wife but not mom


Ryan

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How embarrassing.

Not that it should matter, but can you say what kind of hours he worked?

And does he wear a backpack with a monkey tail leash for the mother?

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Wow that is messed up. If I lived in TN your employee problems would be over! Anyone in NY looking for a detailer on these forums feel free to PM me.
 
LMAO - "time will tell" quoting myself here ---- a week and a half in and the new guy that seems like a great worker, has been on time everyday, and seems to be a great guy is now basically done lol. Nothing to do with him, his MOTHER came and talked to me about how we are working her son to much! His Mother! This is a 31 year old man :eek:. He comes to me this morning and says, "Hey Anthony, My mom wants to meet with you." Cool, thats nice I think. She came over with the coldest look on her face and a print out of the hours that he is working. We were giving this man a set 5 day schedule and he said ,"Work me everyday so I can learn quicker." Great Im thinking, this guy wants to learn the ins and outs. While his mother is explaining to me that we are over working her son, he just stood back behind her like a 3 year looking scared. What is that?!?!?! Then when she realized that she was getting shut out, she walked away - his response was ,"I had to grow up with that!" Well, I hired him, not his mother - and Im not dealing with that kind of garbage lol. I've NEVER seen anything like that! NEVER!

:haha: That's nuts.
 
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