Is duragloss 111 acrylic?

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Is the compound polyaminosiloxane found in duragloss products acrylic?
 
lkotsios said:
Is the compound polyaminosiloxane found in duragloss products acrylic?
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Curious why you need to know this. Anyway...

-Acid-based Duragloss #105 does have: acrylic polyaminosiloxane (polyethylene-acrylic).

-We'll have to investigate a little further for the other Duragloss car care products.

-They seem to be good products, though.

:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Curious why you need to know this. Anyway...

-Acid-based Duragloss #105 does have: acrylic polyaminosiloxane (polyethylene-acrylic).

-We'll have to investigate a little further for the other Duragloss car care products.

-They seem to be good products, though.

:)

Bob[/QUOTE I am trying to avoid acrylics.
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FUNX725 said:
Curious why you need to know this. Anyway...

-Acid-based Duragloss #105 does have: acrylic polyaminosiloxane (polyethylene-acrylic).

-We'll have to investigate a little further for the other Duragloss car care products.

-They seem to be good products, though.

:)

Bob
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Bob, why did you call DG 105 acid based?
 
I think acrylic sealants are made with acrylic acid. Thats what gives them their bond to the paint rather than cross linking like other sealants.
 
excuse me for my ignorance, but is an acrylic sealant more harsh on the paint than a cross linking sealant?
 
If they are acid based and that's how they bond to the paint, wouldn't that etch the paint to a degree? Especially with repeated use? Sounds like it's time for a call to Duragloss. I just can't imagine them producing something that would be harmful to paint.
 
^^^ i'd be interested in what information you get from Jerry at DG... Could you please pass it on to me / us?
 
rwright said:
Bob, why did you call DG 105 acid based?
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From what I've learned over the years...(But I could well be mistaken)...
Most acrylic polyaminosiloxane (polyethylene-acrylic) based products are acid-based...

1. Supposed to mean they''ll hold up better to acidic pollutants (for example: acid rain, bird excrement, fallout).
2. An acrylic acid will etch into the paint. This is what allows/enables a type of "molecular bonding" with the paint, giving it durability.

BTW: I believe Klasse/Werkstatt to be acrylic-based also.

:)

Bob
 
Very interesting to learn the chemistry behind our products. The etching must be very minute, so much that it can't be picked up by the human eye alone. You're a pretty smart cookie Bob, that's why I like reading your posts. :)

I will report back what I learn tomorrow.
 
rwright said:
Very interesting to learn the chemistry behind our products. The etching must be very minute, so much that it can't be picked up by the human eye alone. You're a pretty smart cookie Bob, that's why I like reading your posts. :)

I will report back what I learn tomorrow.
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-Minor etching...Very true.
-The acrylic acid portion provides an additional constituant, which in turn results in additional durability
-There is no cross-linking with polyethylene-acrylics. (Can't be effectively 'layered')

Also: Thanks in advance for your follow-up researching into this matter!


:)

Bob
 
Great news! No Duragloss products are acrylic based. Also, acrylic based may contain acid but not enough to etch paint.
 
That's good news Richard. Unfortunately this (mis)information has been put in a few threads.
 
rwright said:
The answer I received - synthetic polymers. You may want to call them Bob, you are on a much higher level than I am.
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Thanks, my good man...
(I'll have to give 'em a call/email tomorrow.)

:)

Bob
 
I would throw in that the concept of acrylic paint protection is foreign to the all the raw material manufacturers with whom I have spoken. I have international connections and no one can shed light on what would be in these so called 'acrylic' products. In itself that is not necessarily significant but, with so many brands claiming acrylic content, it seems strange. I never thought too much on this but the appearance of siloxane terminology throws uncertainty on all of this. Polysiloxanes are just silicones, aminosiloxanes are the basis of traditional sealant tech and are inherently surface substantive (bond without any assistance needed).

I'll do some more reading but I remain a bit mystified by the 'acrylic' terminology which seems to be lacking support in technical literature.
 
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