So you think your steamer is pretty good eh?? lets kung foo!!!

[604_Snooze]

Call them and ask if they have any open-box ones for sell, it is 100 cheaper.

it will come with 20 small brushes (10 nylon, 5 brass and 5 steel), a large triangle brush, a large floor brush, 2 extender poles, both a 1-hole and a 3-hole detail attachment, a 3-inch triangle and a 3-inch round brush.
I am not sure how many brushes other steamer have, but if you have the cash, take a look at nb2300 steamer on youtube.

 

[Robert8194]

I do not think the VX has hot water injection. I have been doing an awful lot of research on steamers lately and swore it did not have that feature.

The "dry steam" term is used because their is less then 5% water content in the steam generated. Some of the cheaper models that cannot get as hot tend to be more "wet" and when used more water and condensation form

The VX 5000 does have hot water injection but it will exhaust the boiler fairly quickly. Using steam on the low setting, it will last a long time; plenty of time to do an interior.

 

[Bates Detailing]

thats what i call a endorsment,if you read what b&b writes you know he takes pride in his work and he takes care of his customers.that vx seems to hold up and perform on a daily basis.

B&B
Thanks for you're response!I really respect your opinion. The fact that you have 2 and with how busy you are and the quality work you produce a great factor.

Sharcar,
So your saying you can way cars with it? What is hot water injection exactly? Does the vx not able to blast stream? I'm looking to be ankle to blow dirt away with it. Ok also berry interested on doing wheels with it.

Both of you, where did you end upbuying your steamer?


Thanks so much for the input btw!

Wow - thanks for the compliments guys .... I really appreciate the kind words.

I think some people tend to get caught up between the choice of an extractor, or steamer. To me, you need both. In my opinion, they are not related tools. Completely different uses.

I will sell you my brand new Mytee Lite II Kris.... used it 5 times, staying with the steam for sure - always end up steaming after extracting anyway lol.

Can you clean an exterior with the VX?

Im sure you could, only it would take a very long time. I have used it on rims (rarely though) and on paint splatter - thats about it on the exterior..... oh yeah and I did use it today on the exterior cracks of an RV, but that was a first for us.

I do not think the VX has hot water injection.

It does have water injection - in fact if carpets are soiled horribly that is the time we use water injection and then vacuum it right up (basically a super hot extractor).

 

[shoeless89]

B&B you just 100% sold me on the VX5000. I've posted a few threads in the past and you've always recommend it!

 

[Kristopher1129]

I will sell you my brand new Mytee Lite II Kris.... used it 5 times, staying with the steam for sure - always end up steaming after extracting anyway lol.

I would, except I'm planning on buying a larger Mytee for the shop, and then putting the Lite II in the van. I've actually been considering the Mytee Prep Center. That thing would be perfect for my shop.

In the future I wanna buy the VX5000 too. The McCulloch has basically taught me that a steamer isn't something I want to be without. I love the steam, I just don't know how you use steam for bad upholstery or carpets.

I can never pull stains out of a seat using steam. I can surface clean...but that's it. Any time the stain goes deep...the extractor is all that works for me.

 

[Bates Detailing]

B&B you just 100% sold me on the VX5000. I've posted a few threads in the past and you've always recommend it!

Cool man - I wouldn't recommend it if I didn't think it wasn't an essential tool for our company :dblthumb2:

I would, except I'm planning on buying a larger Mytee for the shop, and then putting the Lite II in the van. I've actually been considering the Mytee Prep Center. That thing would be perfect for my shop.

In the future I wanna buy the VX5000 too. The McCulloch has basically taught me that a steamer isn't something I want to be without. I love the steam, I just don't know how you use steam for bad upholstery or carpets.

I can never pull stains out of a seat using steam. I can surface clean...but that's it. Any time the stain goes deep...the extractor is all that works for me.

I have had the extractor on craigslist for a week or 2 now and only had 2 hits surprisingly - figured local start up spring detailers would need one :dunno: - - - - We are very patient with steaming and it can take longer I suppose, but my last straw with the extractor was when we had a client ask specifically for an extraction because he wasn't happy with 14 hours - a 14 hour interior detail!!!! By far a huge turnaround but a very OCD gentleman. So we bought the Mytee Lite II (which I used for years before steaming) and extracted his seats..... I see this guy a week later and oddly I think the extractor pulled up stains?!?!? Possible?!?!? Patience and technique is what makes the steamer effective IMO - After using it daily as a dedicated carpet and upholstery tool you tend to figure out the best method to remove certain stains and the best technique to use for each particular surface.

 

[Tundra_10]

The VX 5000 does have hot water injection but it will exhaust the boiler fairly quickly. Using steam on the low setting, it will last a long time; plenty of time to do an interior.

It does have water injection - in fact if carpets are soiled horribly that is the time we use water injection and then vacuum it right up (basically a super hot extractor).

Whoops, bad info on my part. Sorry! I must be thinking of a different model then. Maybe I am thinking about the daimler 200s. Sorry! =)

 

[Tundra_10]

Call them and ask if they have any open-box ones for sell, it is 100 cheaper.

That sounds like a really good idea. Especially the whole 100 bucks cheaper part! lol

 

[sahrcar]

Here is the link where I purchased my VC4000 steamer. I called them up and the customer service agent talked with me about 5min about all the operations of the steamer and pros and cons. I was impressed that the agent knew so much about the product and had obviously spent some hands on training with all their products. Once I ordered it only took about 2 days for me to receive my order as it was only being shipped from TN- SC coast.
Pro VAPOR STEAM CLEANER, 4000-C Continuous Fill Steam Cleaner

 

[Tundra_10]

^^ that scratch and dent special they have is awesome. Too bad they have a no return policy...

 

[Mobile detail]

Here is the link where I purchased my VC4000 steamer. I called them up and the customer service agent talked with me about 5min about all the operations of the steamer and pros and cons. I was impressed that the agent knew so much about the product and had obviously spent some hands on training with all their products. Once I ordered it only took about 2 days for me to receive my order as it was only being shipped from TN- SC coast.
Pro VAPOR STEAM CLEANER, 4000-C Continuous Fill Steam Cleaner

Thats where is was looking at getting one from. How do you like it overall? From what I can gather, it seems to have like 7 psi more than the VX model but everything else is the same. What package did you get? Seems like the VX comes with a lot more attachments for a cheaper price point.

What do you think the difference is between the VC and this one

Daimer KleenJet Pro Plus 200S rops:?

It appears to be the same machine, but at a different price??



Tundra, What do you mean by scratch and dent policy?

 

[Tundra_10]

Thats where is was looking at getting one from. How do you like it overall? From what I can gather, it seems to have like 7 psi more than the VX model but everything else is the same. What package did you get? Seems like the VX comes with a lot more attachments for a cheaper price point.

What do you think the difference is between the VC and this one

Daimer KleenJet Pro Plus 200S rops:?

It appears to be the same machine, but at a different price??



Tundra, What do you mean by scratch and dent policy?

They have an awesome deal on a scratch and dent unit... unless they already sold it from earlier. It was like $595 or something like that vs $1095.

Thing though that company has a no return policy on any of their units. You buy it, its yours. I want the ability to try out the unit and make sure its what I want, especially for that kind of $$

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[Mobile detail]

Just I'm I'm clear, are you talking about the diamer unit Or the VC? That's a smoking deal, but no return policy makes me super scared. There's no reason not to accept a return. Sure would be nice of AG would carry a unit similar to these. Hint hint...I'm thinking about just using the vx if diamer is the one with no return policy.

 

[Tundra_10]

Mobile Detail this is a link a different member posted....

Pro VAPOR STEAM CLEANER, 4000-C Continuous Fill Steam Cleaner

It is for the vc4000c unit. Under the "packages" it shows a unit that was damaged in return. They are selling it for the reduced price. However their return policy on ALL of their units (even the ones that were not damaged) is no returns. I totally agree with you that it is scary. This unit seems to be similar to the daimer 300cs unit so its about a $500 savings.

For some reason though, I do not know what it is, I still really like that vx5000. I think its just the confidence that company has. Especially when they tell you to buy their unit and the competitions and if you return the competitions unit they pay you for the shipping you have to pay to ship their unit back. Obviously they do the same for theirs too. To me thats a lot of confidence and takes a lot of clout to say and make such a profound gesture.

 

[Kristopher1129]

Cool man - I wouldn't recommend it if I didn't think it wasn't an essential tool for our company :dblthumb2:



I have had the extractor on craigslist for a week or 2 now and only had 2 hits surprisingly - figured local start up spring detailers would need one :dunno: - - - - We are very patient with steaming and it can take longer I suppose, but my last straw with the extractor was when we had a client ask specifically for an extraction because he wasn't happy with 14 hours - a 14 hour interior detail!!!! By far a huge turnaround but a very OCD gentleman. So we bought the Mytee Lite II (which I used for years before steaming) and extracted his seats..... I see this guy a week later and oddly I think the extractor pulled up stains?!?!? Possible?!?!? Patience and technique is what makes the steamer effective IMO - After using it daily as a dedicated carpet and upholstery tool you tend to figure out the best method to remove certain stains and the best technique to use for each particular surface.

See, that's what I like about the extractor. It will pull stains all the way up, and out of the seat or carpet. But yeah, if you don't get the stain all the way out...the stain can potentially come back. But, that's no different with a steamer too. I really feel steam cleaners are only surface cleaners.

A lot of times I find that just using a steamer on seats with stains just doesn't work the same. I use some APC, or degreaser depending on the stains...then suck the stains up into the extractor. To me, you just can't beat the spray and suck combination of an extractor.

Don't get me wrong though...steamers are incredibly useful. If I had to choose between just having steam, or an extractor...I'd take the steamer all day without blinking. Extractors are just one of those tools you need for things that are excessively dirty to me.

If a beat up minivan rolls up that's been destroyed by kids...you better set aside 2 days if all you got is a steamer, ha. In those cases...the extractor is a must IMO.

 

[Mobile detail]

See, that's what I like about the extractor. It will pull stains all the way up, and out of the seat or carpet. But yeah, if you don't get the stain all the way out...the stain can potentially come back. But, that's no different with a steamer too. I really feel steam cleaners are only surface cleaners.

A lot of times I find that just using a steamer on seats with stains just doesn't work the same. I use some APC, or degreaser depending on the stains...then suck the stains up into the extractor. To me, you just can't beat the spray and suck combination of an extractor.

Don't get me wrong though...steamers are incredibly useful. If I had to choose between just having steam, or an extractor...I'd take the steamer all day without blinking. Extractors are just one of those tools you need for things that are excessively dirty to me.

If a beat up minivan rolls up that's been destroyed by kids...you better set aside 2 days if all you got is a steamer, ha. In those cases...the extractor is a must IMO.

Totally agree. I use my Tornador and HP60 all the time for dirty/extremely dirty stuff. There is not way that you can get anything clean without pulling the dirt out. Heck, I've even had it where there was carpet that I extracted that was so dirty that stains started showing up that weren't even there before. What I am hoping is with the steam, it will break some of that gunk up and when I follow it with the extractor it will fully pull everything up. My biggest time consuming cleaning is leather. I get good results with OPC or Specail Cleaner and a brush followed by a wipe down with terry cloth towel, but Im hoping that a steamer would cut down on the time a lot. I did a Yukon on Friday that the leather was trashed and it took almost 2 hours just to do the seats lol.


Tundra,
The fact that they won't accept returns, it pretty much makes me want to pass on them. Im wondering how they could have a "scratch and dent'' unit if they don't take returns haha. I don't really think its good business practice and money is hard to come by and I don't want to chance that I won't like it. What happens if I need help from them down the road.

So with that, I think its down to the VX5000, which B&B swears by along with other people or the unit Rasky was posting. Both are about the same price, and more people have experience with the VX5000 so I'm thinking I'll go that route. I'm a little leary about how the VX website looks, it kinda reminds me of a late night infomercial, but since a lot of people have it and like it, I'm less aprehensive about it. Seems like the right way to go.

 

[master detailer]

jiffy get the 4000 more steam

 

[Mobile detail]

What do you mean more steam?

 

[Tundra_10]

Mobile detail, if i decide to get a steamer i believe i will get a vx5000. I think your making the right decision

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[Gurge]

I have the VC- 4000 and I am so glad that I purchased that over the VX5000. The VC has a hot water injection feature so when Im doing carpets I can just spritz the really bad spots then steam over it to remove. Also when doing rims, steam alone wont always clean them off. It may just break down the brake dust a bit but with the hot water injection feature the brake dust can actually be washed off directly with the steamer.

I just recently had a big project to fully remove all vinyl and then do full details on 4 ambulances (Im still working on it so stay tuned for that writeup!), and these vehicles were stored inside a warehouse. With the hot water injection feature I was able to remove the vinyl, loosen up the adhesive, clean the vehicles with very little water getting on the floor, and also remove lots of crap off of the interior which steam alone would not get too.

The vx5000 is a very good machine but I'd say the extra money for the VC4000 with the hot water injection feature is definitely well worth the money!

didn't read all of this thread - but I'm a VX5000 user and disagree with some of the above info

the VX does have a hot water injection feature. There are 3 buttons on the unit, one to boil, one to steam, and one for hot water injection

also, I routinely remove vinyl / tint / stickets with the VX5000. No hot water injection just steam and plastic razor blades


Regarding the argument between steam vs. extractor I will acknowledge that steam just does not do as good a job on nasty carpets / upholestry. However, it does a pretty damn good job, dries faster, and the steamer can be used for many more things. If I had a shop, I'd have both. Being that I'm mobile, its steam only.

To the original poster - the glaring difference between the 2 units seems to be the option to do continuous fill. You need to decide how often you will kill a full tank and need to refill.

I personally make a point to top off my steamer from time to time in between use and I never seem to have an issue with running out of water.

BTW - big tip if you're mobile with a steam cleaner. pre heat at home. takes way less time and less power to heat up at the jobsite if its reached full operating temp a couple hours earlier.