DuraGloss #111 clearcoat polish....thoughts

Shortspark--Why not just add a coat of 111 after your next wash???

I know what you mean about the 105--I put a coat of 105 (topped with AquaWax) on my wife's new BLACK Golf and it looks as good as anything I've seen.

Another advantage I've noticed with 105--on my medium green Passat I never had water spots or etching in the 5 years when using 105 exclusively but recently I tried a hybrid sealant/wax. Look was fantastic, but had to leave my car outdoors for a week during occasional rain and very hot days--sure enough water spots and light etching.
 
Yes Ski2, I can always try the 111 after the next wash instead of just doing my normal after wash squirt of AquaWax - and I probably will. That is the nice thing about staying with one group because all the products go with each other and there is seldom an issue of compatibility. It might seem boring but I like the idea of using various products from one company, especially one like Duragloss whose products all perform so well.
 
Hey Shortspark, wait till you add the #111 after a good wash, let it sit for an hour or so (longer the better) and remove, that white will Glisten, not just glisten! If you want to though, apply a coat of #111 and leave it on overnight and then the next morning, spray your AW over it and remove it like that, this way you remove the AW along with adding another coat of protection, 2 for one! I did this this morning and my car looks awesome, the metallic seems to "float" around, almost looks alive, "3D" even! Now granted I'm not your usual AG member, one look at my sig tells you all you need to know about me but let me tell you this, no matter I try next, #111 is always going to be in my bag from now on, its available at my local CarQuest too, so if I need some and don't have any order places with AG, its right there for the taking, along with AW and #105 for that matter. On my next AG order though, I'm ordering the bonding agent to make flashing possible, this way I can get multiple layers on in the fall, right before the white stuff falls.
 
Thanks for the tips Klasse Act. Yes, I noticed your signature some time ago. When I first started getting serious about caring for my cars by using quality products and not just store bought junk, I went immediately towards Klasse. Their AIO and Sealant Glaze was my go to products for longer than I care to remember.

I still have bottles of each that are now seven years old and the liquid still looks great (I always keep them inside and never in the garage, at least not here in this Texas heat!). I am sure I could use them today on a car with excellent results. They changed formulas about ten years ago or so and some say they can tell a difference but I can't. I have used diluted Klasse AIO for everything from shower stalls to cleaning hot tubs and counter tile and it works as well for those things as it does on a car. Great products even to this day!

And here is a tip you may or may not be aware of - a home brew quick detailer that is nearly as good as AquaWax over sealant for your left over AIO (it is best applied thin so a bottle lasts forever). It is made up of three parts distilled water to one part AIO. It won't clean like some QDs will but it will provide a great boost to the paint ala AquaWax. Some people like it a little more diluted with additional water but 3:1 works good for me. AquaWax is cheap but this Klasse "home brew" is cheaper yet!!
 
I wonder if Dura Gloss is working on making a clear seal type sealant like BF, Optimum, Zaino and others have? Richy.....any thing you'd like to add to this???

They have one - Enviro Shield - but it's not sold in the US.

Francis
 
They have one - Enviro Shield - but it's not sold in the US.

Francis

Is it because of the chemicals that make this product? How much is it? Is there any way we can possibly get it? Anyone....Richy?
 
Your right on target with this post for sure Joe, I'm a big fan of BFWD also, got a bottle of it right now and was using it in conjunction with BF Crystal Seal and really liked the results. There is some dusting issues but its not that bad IMO, there's NO issue with dusting with #111 though.

What type and color of car are you using the #111 on Joe?

I wonder if Dura Gloss is working on making a clear seal type sealant like BF, Optimum, Zaino and others have? Richy.....any thing you'd like to add to this???

They have one - Enviro Shield - but it's not sold in the US.

Francis

Is it because of the chemicals that make this product? How much is it? Is there any way we can possibly get it? Anyone....Richy?

DG makes products for other companies all over the world. I have a sample of a clear sealant being sent to me that they're making for someone else. That's all I can say for now, sorry.
 
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And here is a tip you may or may not be aware of - a home brew quick detailer that is nearly as good as AquaWax over sealant for your left over AIO (it is best applied thin so a bottle lasts forever). It is made up of three parts distilled water to one part AIO. It won't clean like some QDs will but it will provide a great boost to the paint ala AquaWax. Some people like it a little more diluted with additional water but 3:1 works good for me. AquaWax is cheap but this Klasse "home brew" is cheaper yet!!

i thought i read this home brew tip was with the KSG not the KAIO...glad i didnt try it out yet! haha
 
Is it because of the chemicals that make this product? How much is it? Is there any way we can possibly get it? Anyone....Richy?

No idea why - maybe Z has an exclusivity agreement with DG, so they're the only ones who can sell it in the US? ;) You can get more info about the product on the Duragloss Malaysia website. DG seem to have a number of products available in other countries that are not sold in the US - heck, they already have a coating, NanoGlass, available in South-East Asia.
 
i thought i read this home brew tip was with the KSG not the KAIO...glad i didnt try it out yet! haha

When I make up my quick detailer using my current rinseless wash, I add 2 oz of KSG into the gallon and it works very well, I use it on my car just about everyday or every other day, I took that tip and ran with it:props:

Thanks for the info Richy and let the powers that be know this, "build it and they will come".
 
Can I mix in the bonding agent with #105?

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From the Duragloss website description of 601:

"Is similar to an epoxy (A&B) and bonds chemically when it comes into contact with durable polishes. Duragloss PBA will double the durability and protection of polishes when applied prior to polishing.
Step Saver Tip - Blend 1 part #601 to 4 parts of either #101, 105, 111, or 501 for added durability and gloss. Accelerates the curing process for instant bonding. Apply within 2 hours after mixing for maximum results."
 
From the Duragloss website description of 601:

"Is similar to an epoxy (A&B) and bonds chemically when it comes into contact with durable polishes. Duragloss PBA will double the durability and protection of polishes when applied prior to polishing.
Step Saver Tip - Blend 1 part #601 to 4 parts of either #101, 105, 111, or 501 for added durability and gloss. Accelerates the curing process for instant bonding. Apply within 2 hours after mixing for maximum results."

Thanks for the info Ski, that part where you've gotta use it up within 2 hrs is very important, don't wanna waste a thing, so I'll make up a small amount and go from there. My order comes in today from AG, but I'm surely not going to be home and will have to wait till Monday to pick it up from the UPS and then use it, gotta try out a new product when you get it, even if I did just apply a coat of BFCS 2 days ago.

I asked about #101 because I know its got some cleaners in it and I should also add that to my collection, a little bit of cleaner here and there surely will not hurt anything. Speaking of #101, how is it compared to to #111 with the cleaners in it as far as shine and durability?
 
The 1:4 ratio of 601 with whatever (105, 111, 501, etc.) should be a time saver but I wonder if it is better than the two steps originally recommended? My sense is that the bonding agent should sit on the car for a little while before the sealant or polish is applied on top of it. I don't know why I think that but it makes sense to me. Anyway, I will try the 1:4 ratio trick with the 111 I just received from AG the next time I use it.

If it is so important to use the combination right away (I assume so the mixture won't harden up) and since we don't know exactly how large a quantity to mix up, why can't the mix be done on the pad itself one section at a time? Whether by hand or machine, the pad could get one dime size drop of 601 in the center and four drops of sealant or polish around it. When the pad is placed on the car and swirled it is mixed automatically. Repeat these five drops on the pad for every section of the car.

It seems to me that by mixing the two ingredients on the pad or applicator itself they would be more thoroughly mixed, it would obviously be easier and require no measurements and pouring in bottles, there would be no need to concern yourself with the time factor for usage since they are combined immediately and used immediately, and there would be no wasted product by mixing too large a batch at the start of the project (or having to repeat the measurements because of initially mixing too little). You would never use more or less than you need. Has anyone tried this?
 
It seems to me that by mixing the two ingredients on the pad or applicator itself they would be more thoroughly mixed, it would obviously be easier and require no measurements and pouring in bottles, there would be no need to concern yourself with the time factor for usage since they are combined immediately and used immediately, and there would be no wasted product by mixing too large a batch at the start of the project (or having to repeat the measurements because of initially mixing too little). You would never use more or less than you need. Has anyone tried this?

while i've never used the product before, my comment may be out of turn here, but i don't think i would rely on the pad to be mixing the products on the car, nor do i think it would work anyhow.

personally i don't think mixing up a small batch is going to waste much product. just mix an ounce or two at a time if your worried about it until you know how much you need for that particular vehicle, then log it somewhere so you know vehicle X took Y amount of product.
 
Maybe you're right Primo, but I'm going to try it both ways and find out for sure.
 
I plan on mixing up 1 oz at a time when I do this, I also plan on getting the #101 very soon too, really wanna add some product with a slight amount of cleaners in there from time to time.

A little side note, my buddy Derek0609 told me that he went into a CarQuest today and wanted to buy some #111 and check this out, they're phasing it out for Surf City wax or whatever its called, really.......anyone know anything about this, sounds like a pure hype product to me and I bet its not better than DG. I need to find out if this is true with all the stores, if so, I'm going to see if they're clearing out their stuff near me, maybe it will go on sale......hmmmm!
 
Folks, this is really simple. Buy a 3oz sample bottle from Walmart (upside down bottle - tottle), pour 1/2oz. 601 Polish Bonding Agent and 2oz of 105, 111, or 501 and shake well. Done. There's no wasting product, no worries if it's getting mixed properly on the pad, etc.. Yes the directions originally call for applying 601 on the paint, allow to haze, apply 105, 111, or 501 over top and allow to haze again, then remove. However, Jerry@Duragloss gave Richy the instructions to mix them at a 1:4 ratio to save time, hence the tips now posted on their website. I promise it really is that simple and works every time. :)
 
I usually use less than 25 ml. So I bought a 50 ml squeezable transparent plastic bottle. I filled it with 20 ml water, and marked it with a permanent pen (sharpie?), add another 5 ml water to the bottle and marked it again. Earlier, I tried mixing 10 ml of 501, 10 ml of 105 and 5 ml of 601 together for the second time. The idea is to get half of 501's cleaning power and increase the the mixture's durability with 105. Paint is not that dirty anyway.:D I use the remaining mixture on our refrigerator. :D
 
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