Out of these 3 high end waxes....
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Blackthorn One
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Sweating is the manifestation of dull looking circular spots usually about 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch in diameter. I did my hood with it and there were about 10 of them on it the next day. It was really troubling, as I had only seen it for the first time. I used Griots Speed Shine to eliminate them.
Mike Phillips
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The definition I've always seen and used for the term,
Sweating
Is while using a product small beads of water appear from the product, as though the product were literally sweating.
I think this has to do with the emulsion quality of the formula but I'm not a chemist. I have seen this with product over the years.
It's never stopped me from using a product, I just dab off any droplets of water and allow the product to do it's thing...
Sweating
Is while using a product small beads of water appear from the product, as though the product were literally sweating.
I think this has to do with the emulsion quality of the formula but I'm not a chemist. I have seen this with product over the years.
It's never stopped me from using a product, I just dab off any droplets of water and allow the product to do it's thing...
Mike Phillips
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I've used them all... regardless of which product you use, how long a wax lasts in part comes from how the the paint is touched after the fact...
Here's my article on this topic...
How to maintain a freshly waxed car
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Blackthorn One
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The definition I've always seen and used for the term,
Sweating
Is while using a product small beads of water appear from the product, as though the product were literally sweating.
I think this has to do with the emulsion quality of the formula but I'm not a chemist. I have seen this with product over the years.
It's never stopped me from using a product, I just dab off any droplets of water and allow the product to do it's thing...
If that is the definition of sweating, how would you define the manifestation of dull spots on the car the next day?
Mike Phillips
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Excess product not removed?
Dull paint to start with?
:dunno:
I'm not sure. I'm just sharing what is historically referred to by the term sweating. Don't want to take away anything from your version of the word or your experience just adding to the thread...
Blackthorn One
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Excess product not removed?
Dull paint to start with?
:dunno:
I'm not sure. I'm just sharing what is historically referred to by the term sweating. Don't want to take away anything from your version of the word or your experience just adding to the thread...
Wasn't dull paint at all. It only manifested in the wax, and wiped off with some effort and some speed shine.
Honestly it isn't my version of the word. I mentioned my problem before and others told me it is sweating. i have seen the kind of sweating you are talking about. Poorboy's Wheel Sealant sweats a lot.
BobbyG
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Hey Chet,
For anything to "sweat" there must be a source for this moisture. I have to admit that I've seen tiny droplets of water when I've opened a can of wax. The wax formula might include water to aid in its application but I just don't see how a car can just sweat. What I might also be witnessing is condensation....
For this discussion let's say there was some residual moisture in the wax after it was buffed. I would think that any moisture would evaporate rather quickly on the next sunny hot day. This is my thinking anyway. :dunno:
Where does sweat come from?
You have millions of sweat glands covering your body. Each of them is able to produce tiny drops of moisture on your skin when your body overheats. Where does the moisture come from? From blood plasma. Plasma is the watery liquid that remains after you filter red blood cells and platelets out of blood.
Now, there are times where condensation comes into play. Condensation is a process in which water vapors (gaseous state) turns into water droplets (liquid state), when it comes in contact with a cooler surface. An example of this would be when a man wearing glasses steps outside from an air conditioned office on a warm humid day and his glasses immediately fog over.. Or the hood of your car in the morning.
Something tells me that wax sweating is more of the terminology used when describing droplets of water found on a horizontal panel but most likely these droplets are from condensation as described above...
My opinion is something I'm an expert on and may not reflect that of others....
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I have used Pinnacle Souveran and Wolfgang Fuzion, I have not used Dodos. I like the looks of each… BUT on different colors. I like the look of Pinnacle on my Race Red non metal flake car, much deeper, intense, with a lot of depth .On this car I believe Fuzion just doesn’t quite have the same characteristics, it looks more on the surface. I do like Fuzion on our Ivory Pearl vehicles. I think the fuzion really make the pearl and metal flake pop.
I have layered the Fuzion under Souveran on the Race Red car, probably just wasted my time and product, but I felt better doing it, like I was adding more protection.?
I have layered the Fuzion under Souveran on the Race Red car, probably just wasted my time and product, but I felt better doing it, like I was adding more protection.?
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I am not an expert on DJSN but I have read a lot about the product in reviews and product descriptions from numerous websites. I also used several other Dodo wax products and I can tell you it is one of my favorites out there.
With the Carnauba content being high in SN. it's a much thicker consistency and therefore needs more focus and patience when applying it. If DJ uses water in this product I cannot see how that would work well since Carnauba repels water! If the sweating is caused by the wax, it is the solvents (composed of oils) coming out as the product cures. I haven't seen
The only thing we have discussed here on this topic of "sweating" is that SN can be just as unforgiving as 845 or BFWD when not applied extremely thin; plain and simple. Also, cure time can run anywhere from 15 min. to an hour+ depending on humidity levels.
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Mike Phillips
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Maybe the wax just had Kung-Grip in these isolated areas?
Seriously, I have know idea why wax would stick harder to some areas than other areas? :dunno:
The only thing I can think of is something either physically different about the paint in these areas or the product you were applying had some inconsistencies.
The good news is... you removed it..
If I ever run into it again I'll take a picture and write an article to at least give all of us a reference point.
I've seen it with the early versions of Meguiar's M21 but that was years ago and the chemists addressed that issue.