New Menzerna FG 400 - One-Step Show Car Makeover

Mike Phillips said:
Forced Rotation = Working faster and more effectively
With the Flex 3401 Forced Rotation Dual Action Polisher you can tackler larger sections than you could with a PC style tool and thus do a better job faster. Plus no risk of swirls like there could be with a rotary buffer.
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OOHHH...leaves me out. Thought I saw a short cut.

Been there, done that with the inferior AM product of the same ilk, coupled with the PCXP.



Mike Phillips said:
Once I start I never stop, that is I don't take breaks, if anything I eat a sandwich while working...

Detailing cars is hard work, it requires a person to be in good physical shape. You need good upper body strength as well as good lower body strength and it's important to wear good shoes, at least to me.
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True hustler hand...stack that cheddar :props:
 
Great work as always from the detailing master himself!

I did not see any mention of the type of abrasives in this product. Does it have diminishing abrasives?
 
just recieved my bottle last night cant wait to play with it myself, as always great job mike!
 
96Lude said:
I did not see any mention of the type of abrasives in this product. Does it have diminishing abrasives?
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It uses a complex abrasive agglomeration. The key to its performance is the quality of the abrasives not the quantity...


psynx said:
just received my bottle last night cant wait to play with it myself, as always great job mike!
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Long buffing cycle and easy wipe-off with little to now dusting as long as you clean your pad often.


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That's the Imperial Ivory/ Dusk Pearl paint combination. My 57 was that color originally. Great job on it! I don't think the interior has the original colors, though. I believe that the Imperial Ivory/Dusk Pearl paint combination was available only with the black and silver interior, ie a dashboard with silver cluster and wheel, and black dash and interior garnish moldings. I guess this guy went for a custom touch.
I really like the original wheel covers without the optional spinners like this one has, though. Almost every 57 Chevy full wheel cover has spinners on it.

Here are some pics of the original interior colors.

1957 CHEVY 2 DOOR HARDTOP
 
The owner bought it the way you see it, he has around 20 cars in his collection.

Told me he's showed numerous cars at Pebble Beach and Amelia Island and never had a car with as nice a finish as this 1957 has now.

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Is this SMAT or DAT. DAT'S to me are scary outside of the wolfgang twins(and they rock).

Awesome review though, sweet car!
 
cleanmycorolla said:
Is this SMAT or DAT. DAT'S to me are scary outside of the wolfgang twins(and they rock).
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The new FG 400 is a little bit of both...

cleanmycorolla said:
Awesome review though, sweet car!
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Thank you... sorry to say it was damaged about a week ago and is the body shop for repair and repaint and afterwards it will probably need a little paint perfecting.

My buddy Wayne is doing the paint and body work, here's some of Wayne's other work that we polished here at Autogeek...


Blown 1934 Ford Pick-up - Show Car Makeover - Modeled by Kristin


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So the 1957 is in good hands...


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"... sorry to say it was damaged about a week ago and is the body shop for repair and repaint "

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That truck looks great. Looks like candy apple red. I just noticed that the 57 has the aftermarket small steering wheel that looks like the original full size wheel, painted white. The wheel is a nice touch. I want one for mine.
 
I just used Fg400 on a Hood. Car is a 2010 VW jetta. Used a MF cutting pad and all the swirls, oxidation, and water etches dissapeared :). There are still some scratches though. I did six section passes SLOWLY. I'm wondering if the scratches are too deep for FG-400 to remove? can't feel then with my nail. Is it worth trying to take them out?


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I would say NO.... once you nail catches the scratch it is generally too deep to polish out.

Especially if the car is your or your customer's daily driver.... You have to accept that a certain amount of RIDS will always be present in a daily, and trying to remove them all will only lead to a reduced clear coat, putting your car's paint at risk.
 
Jomax said:
I just used Fg400 on a Hood. Car is a 2010 VW jetta. Used a MF cutting pad and all the swirls, oxidation, and water etches disappeared .

There are still some scratches though.
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lawrenceSA said:
You have to accept that a certain amount of RIDS will always be present in a daily, and trying to remove them all will only lead to a reduced clear coat, putting your car's paint at risk.
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So Dave aka Jomax lives in Arizona, a place with lots of extreme sunshine which means maximum exposure to UV rays which cause clear coat failure.

Then Lawrence aka lawrenceSA, a forum member from South Africa, another place with extreme sunshine, recommends taking the cautious path of learning to live with the deeper scratches.


Awesome. :dblthumb2:


Dave, Lawrence does make a good point. Your Jetta is going on 3 years old. Dr. Ghodoussi told me that the UV inhibitors in factory clear coats have a half life of 5 years and then deteriorate even more after 5 years.

If you plan on keeping the car then maybe learn to live with the deeper scratches to reduce the potential for premature clear coat failure, a problem accelerated by UV rays from the sun.

If they bug you though, then have at them again with a few more passes or reduce your footprint by using a smaller pad or even working on just the scratches themselves by hand. After working by hand you can come back and make a few cover passes by machine to clean up any hand induced marring.


Check out this article too... see post #14

Beginning Clearcoat Failure



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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
So Dave aka Jomax lives in Arizona, a place with lots of extreme sunshine which means maximum exposure to UV rays which cause clear coat failure.

Then Lawrence aka lawrenceSA, a forum member from South Africa, another place with extreme sunshine, recommends taking the cautious path of learning to live with the deeper scratches.


Awesome. :dblthumb2:


Dave, Lawrence does make a good point. Your Jetta is going on 3 years old. Dr. Ghodoussi told me that the UV inhibitors in factory clear coats have a half life of 5 years and then deteriorate even more after 5 years.

If you plan on keeping the car then maybe learn to live with the deeper scratches to reduce the potential for premature clear coat failure, a problem accelerated by UV rays from the sun.

If they bug you though, then have at them again with a few more passes or reduce your footprint by using a smaller pad or even working on just the scratches themselves by hand. After working by hand you can come back and make a few cover passes by machine to clean up any hand induced marring.


Check out this article too... see post #14

Beginning Clearcoat Failure



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I will leave them be.. It is a DD,(truck was killing me in Diesel) bought the car 3 months ago Used. Was hoping for perfection but the small chips on the hood keep that from happening. I must remember its a DD. thanks for the info guys! I'll try to post pics of it finished up!



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After skimming through this thread and especially after Mike's in-depth review of the FG 400, looks like this will be a product on my list next order. I do a lot of shows in the Spring/Summer here in PA so something like this will come in handy to get that perfect finish rather quickly. :)
 
blongo804 said:
After skimming through this thread and especially after Mike's in-depth review of the FG 400, looks like this will be a product on my list next order. I do a lot of shows in the Spring/Summer here in PA so something like this will come in handy to get that perfect finish rather quickly. :)
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Works great, took out everything but RIDS for me.(paint was JACKED) But I used it in Volkswagen paint which is known for its hardness. I used it on a piece of black painted trim on the car and it finished flawlessly. Would buy again!


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Mike - how do you see the 400 used vs the 4500?

I have used the 4500 and a gray pad on a brand new car (mine) with amazing results....
 
glen e said:
Mike - how do you see the 400 used vs the 4500?
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Hmm.....

FG 400 is an aggressive compound and SF 4500 is an Ultra Fine Cut Polish. I see the FG 400 used to remove defects and the SF 4500 used to max out the gloss and clarity after all the correction and polishing steps are completed.



glen e said:
I have used the 4500 and a gray pad on a brand new car (mine) with amazing results....
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I think the SF4000 is one of the best, if not THE best Ultra Fine Cut Polish available that I've used and one strong feature is it works consistently on a wide range of paint systems, with a wide variety of pads and tools.



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Mike, what kind of speeds would you suggest using this product at on a rotary and/or da buffer? I'd imagine a higher speed (5-6) on something like the Porter Cable?

I absolutely love the entire line of Menzerna compounds/polishes and this will definitely be included in my next order. The working time on every Menzerna product I've ever used has been tremendous.
 
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