What makes Wolfgangs German Polymers "Super Polymers"

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I love working with Wolfgang products, but as I was laying down a fresh coat of Fuzion today it came across my mind... What really makes this wax so special? What is a super polymer vs a regular polymer when it comes to wax?

Send me some feedback please! Feed back please
 
I assume its all marketing but as an Engineer for my day job I've always been curious about the chemistry behind detailing chemicals... I understand the different grades of carnuba but its all the secrets behind the overall wax thay we never hear about! I mean to sell a small plastic jar for $175 a company has to have some awesome marketing as well as be able to back it.up!
 
It's also funny how you americans say wulfgäng it's just wolfgang like its written and just an older first name here in germany. :D
 
lol Nick gave me the laugh of the day. I bet Meguiars #26 or whatever sealant it is they have is up to par with wolfgangs sealant. LOL this guy^ Malborex came out of nowhere with the Wulfgeng hooey. Nobody over here in Murika says wulfgeng, ok? Stop confusing us breh lol jk
 
EWtheDETAILER said:
I love working with Wolfgang products, but as I was laying down a fresh coat of Fuzion today it came across my mind... What really makes this wax so special? What is a super polymer vs a regular polymer when it comes to wax?

Send me some feedback please! Feed back please
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You mean you didn't figure out what's so special about the wax after you opened the jar, applied a super thin coat and effortlessly buffed it off to reveal mile-deep reflections?

I'd say you're focusing on the wrong aspect of the wax! If I were to take a Corvette Z06 for a test drive, I can tell you for sure that the last thing on my mind would be the name of the guy that installed the light in the glove box. :laughing:

All joking aside, Wolfgang paint care products, more specifically Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, Fuzion and Deep Gloss Liquid Seal, are formulated using a polymer that provides far greater protection against UV rays and other environmental contaminants when compared to a traditional polymer. This is where they get the "super" name.

Dig any deeper than that and you're focusing on the wrong aspect of using a premium, hand-poured carnauba wax. :dblthumb2:
 
Malborex said:
It's also funny how you americans say wulfgäng it's just wolfgang like its written and just an older first name here in germany. :D
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Qusai said:
LOL this guy^ Malborex came out of nowhere with the Wulfgeng hooey. Nobody over here in Murika says wulfgeng, ok? Stop confusing us breh lol jk

^^^:iagree:^^^
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If only I could find my: tyre-lever !! :bat:

{LOL}

Bob
 
EWtheDETAILER said:
What is a super polymer vs a regular polymer when it comes to wax?
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In my layman-speak:

Polymers, so named for a repeating isoprene unit (monomer) by a German Chemist,
have been around since the 1920's and used in the manufacturing sector since the 1930's.

At first...There were only natural polymers.
Then came the Chemists' synthetic polymers.


-Ever since the discovery of polymers, Chemists have been known to fool-around,
(at least with the polymers), a little bit every now and then/again.

Because of these efforts...There have been many, many great strides made in products...
including never-before-seen ones...we use in our everyday-life.
The Modern Society, some say.


-Chemists discovered that polymers are large (macro) molecular structures...
and that they will 'pack together', in a linear fashion, to form a three dimensional matrix.
This matrix is called: Crystallinity.

I'll refer to these polymers as regular-polymers.


-Let's say...Chemists can increase these "morphed-polymers" crystallinity:
There is then a subsequent increase in their tensile strength, rigidity, and opaqueness.

I'll refer to these polymers as the beginning states of super-polymers.

(However amorphous polymers usually have less tensile strength; are less rigid; and transparent.)


-Perhaps the New-Age German Chemists at Wolfgang headquarters have tinkered with the main factors
that influence the degree of polymers' crystallinity such as their:
-Chain length
-Chain branching
-Interchain bonding

To create the state of what I'll refer to as:
Much-improved-polymers...Nay!...Super Polymers!!


Also...
Wolfgang's Chemists may have also pushed the envelope, in regards to wax-polymers...

By incorporating more than one monomeric unit into a polymer macromolecule...A two-component system, if you will...
To control the "properties" of this resulting: Synthesized-Copolymer

Also: Addition Copolymerization...is an amazing Chemical process to observe--At least to me it is.

EWtheDETAILER said:
I love working with Wolfgang products
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^^^I hope that nothing I have said...Changes your opinion.^^^

:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
In my layman-speak:

Polymers, so named for a repeating isoprene unit (monomer) by a German Chemist,
have been around since the 1920's and used in the manufacturing sector since the 1930's.

At first...There were only natural polymers.
Then came the Chemists' synthetic polymers.


-Ever since the discovery of polymers, Chemists have been known to fool-around,
(at least with the polymers), a little bit every now and then/again.

Because of these efforts...There have been many, many great strides made in products...
including never-before-seen ones...we use in our everyday-life.
The Modern Society, some say.


-Chemists discovered that polymers are large (macro) molecular structures...
and that they will 'pack together', in a linear fashion, to form a three dimensional matrix.
This matrix is called: Crystallinity.

I'll refer to these polymers as regular-polymers.


-Let's say...Chemists can increase these "morphed-polymers" crystallinity:
There is then a subsequent increase in their tensile strength, rigidity, and opaqueness.

I'll refer to these polymers as the beginning states of super-polymers.

(However amorphous polymers usually have less tensile strength; are less rigid; and transparent.)


-Perhaps the New-Age German Chemists at Wolfgang headquarters have tinkered with the main factors
that influence the degree of polymers' crystallinity such as their:
-Chain length
-Chain branching
-Interchain bonding

To create the state of what I'll refer to as:
Much-improved-polymers...Nay!...Super Polymers!!


Also...
Wolfgang's Chemists may have also pushed the envelope, in regards to wax-polymers...

By incorporating more than one monomeric unit into a polymer macromolecule...A two-component system, if you will...
To control the "properties" of this resulting: Synthesized-Copolymer

Also: Addition Copolymerization...is an amazing Chemical process to observe--At least to me it is.


^^^I hope that nothing I have said...Changes your opinion.^^^

:)

Bob
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Bob, I hope I'm not overstepping our friendship by asking you two things:

1) If there ever was a most interesting man in the detailing world, it would be you. What do you do for a living? You seem very well versed in the sciences, but more than that, you seem to really have a passion for understanding. Notice I didn't say understanding something, like understanding chemistry, biology, etc. No, it seems you have a desire for understanding anything and everything.

2) How long does it take you to bold, and color, and change all the fonts you do in your posts? lol!
 
ihaveacamaro said:
Bob, I hope I'm not overstepping our friendship by asking you two things:

1) If there ever was a most interesting man in the detailing world, it would be you. What do you do for a living? You seem very well versed in the sciences, but more than that, you seem to really have a passion for understanding. Notice I didn't say understanding something, like understanding chemistry, biology, etc. No, it seems you have a desire for understanding anything and everything.

2) How long does it take you to bold, and color, and change all the fonts you do in your posts? lol!
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You know I wanted to know the same thing. No disrespect intended either, but more than 3/4 of the time, I have NO idea what the heck Bob is talking about/referring to on his posts.
 
But one question I have, is, why then is there a so called need for a product such as Polycharger, when many of these "super poly" products are supposedly the best they can be, and usually their asking price reflects that? I see Todd today over at the other group mentioning this product.

What true benefits will be gained adding such to a product as WGDGPS 3.0? Or are these just products for people who have nothing better to do with their money?
 
CM8 6MT said:
You know I wanted to know the same thing. No disrespect intended either, but more than 3/4 of the time, I have NO idea what the heck Bob is talking about/referring to on his posts.
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Whenever he posts, I definitely read it a few times before posting. Bobs posts have been enlightening for me as he goes and asks beyond the typical detailer questions.
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
You mean you didn't figure out what's so special about the wax after you opened the jar, applied a super thin coat and effortlessly buffed it off to reveal mile-deep reflections?

I'd say you're focusing on the wrong aspect of the wax! If I were to take a Corvette Z06 for a test drive, I can tell you for sure that the last thing on my mind would be the name of the guy that installed the light in the glove box. :laughing:

All joking aside, Wolfgang paint care products, more specifically Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, Fuzion and Deep Gloss Liquid Seal, are formulated using a polymer that provides far greater protection against UV rays and other environmental contaminants when compared to a traditional polymer. This is where they get the "super" name.
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Haha yeah I agree... just opening the jar and smelling Fuzion you know its special! Super easy on and off and AMAZING shine!


But like you said with the Corvette example... you may not care who put the light bulb in but I gaurantee you look under the hood! Trust me I enjoy my premium waxes but I guess its just my engineering background that has me wondering the who, what, when where, and why behind it!

Overall it definately makes sense... its an advanced formula on a great product with a marketing spin!


Thanks for the feedback! :thankyousign:
 
So how do you pronounce Fuzion? Is it fuse-e-on or Fusion like the car?

I find WGDGPS well worth the money. It was one of my very first purchases from Autogeek and it eventually is what has made me fall in love with this place, and WGDGPS. I haven't looked back since. I was getting tired of OTC waxes and sealant and wanted something that was truly different. I get that different look with WGDGPS, hard candy like sealant look and that nice warm glow of a carnauba. I have never had something that makes my paint look so clean even though it is completely covered in filth, even six months after application.. So what ever these super polymers really are, they seem to be working quite well.

Fuzion is just simply awesome in my book, it brings enjoyment to waxing vehicles. The name of it just sounds so cool, and that wooden box makes worth of the trophy shelf.

CM8 6MT said:
You know I wanted to know the same thing. No disrespect intended either, but more than 3/4 of the time, I have NO idea what the heck Bob is talking about/referring to on his posts.
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:iagree:

Bob's post have always intrigued me, in a good way, and even though I may not respond to each one, I truly do enjoy reading them.
 
FUNX725 said:
In my layman-speak:

Polymers, so named for a repeating isoprene unit (monomer) by a German Chemist,
have been around since the 1920's and used in the manufacturing sector since the 1930's.

At first...There were only natural polymers.
Then came the Chemists' synthetic polymers.


-Ever since the discovery of polymers, Chemists have been known to fool-around,
(at least with the polymers), a little bit every now and then/again.

Because of these efforts...There have been many, many great strides made in products...
including never-before-seen ones...we use in our everyday-life.
The Modern Society, some say.


-Chemists discovered that polymers are large (macro) molecular structures...
and that they will 'pack together', in a linear fashion, to form a three dimensional matrix.
This matrix is called: Crystallinity.

I'll refer to these polymers as regular-polymers.


-Let's say...Chemists can increase these "morphed-polymers" crystallinity:
There is then a subsequent increase in their tensile strength, rigidity, and opaqueness.

I'll refer to these polymers as the beginning states of super-polymers.

(However amorphous polymers usually have less tensile strength; are less rigid; and transparent.)


-Perhaps the New-Age German Chemists at Wolfgang headquarters have tinkered with the main factors
that influence the degree of polymers' crystallinity such as their:
-Chain length
-Chain branching
-Interchain bonding

To create the state of what I'll refer to as:
Much-improved-polymers...Nay!...Super Polymers!!


Also...
Wolfgang's Chemists may have also pushed the envelope, in regards to wax-polymers...

By incorporating more than one monomeric unit into a polymer macromolecule...A two-component system, if you will...
To control the "properties" of this resulting: Synthesized-Copolymer

Also: Addition Copolymerization...is an amazing Chemical process to observe--At least to me it is.


^^^I hope that nothing I have said...Changes your opinion.^^^

:)

Bob
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:whs::wow::goodpost:

This is also what I was looking for... maybe a little advanced... but the chemistry side of things!! I've got a decent understanding of Synthetic Polymers (spent a few years in the plastic industry) but plastics and waxes are two different areas... Its basically what I figured the fine tuning of polymers' crystallinity but you explanation helps alot!

Thanks for the post Bob!
 
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