Frustrated with MF pads

[BorisC]

Are there any MF pads that last more than a couple of uses? The original Megs MF pads had the glue issue & came apart. (See lower pic.) I got the replacements & now the hook/loop backing is coming off. (Upper pic) I got the Megs replacements a while ago, only used them a few times, then left them in the house for a few months. I started using them again about 2 weeks ago & one is already falling apart again. I'm sure the 2nd one will too.

Same thing w/ the CG MF's. You're supposed to be able to use them w/ the Flex & rotary's. But I didn't even get that far b/c they only lasted a few uses on the PC. This happened to 2 pads.

I only used the pads on the PC (1st gen) w/ the Megs bp, correct speed, etc. And so far it's only been the cutting pads.

Left-Megs replacement -- Right-CG


Original Megs pad that came w/ the MF kit

 

[Klasse Act]

I had the same issue when I ordered the 6" Optimum mf pads but my 3" one is holding up ok but then again I don't have to use it all too much and the GG 3" doesn't work it as hard as its big brother can so that could explain that.

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[Evan.J]

How are you cleaning them and how often?

These pads are very delicate. I have found that the saying less is more is very true with the Meg's pads. I found anything about speed four wil cause failure. Cleaning the pads with air is the best hands down. I have found cleaning the pads after every section is very beneficial. Switching pads after every panel helps as well.

 

[dad07]

Heat,heat,heat.......Megs pads can't stand the heat.

They work like charm when you get them dialed in.......

I cannot comment on CG pads but Megs really don't like forced rotation equipment.....if your using a traditional da they play very well.

With megs mf pads you have to clean more often ( and commpressed air is the best method) lighten up on the arm pressure and make smaller section passes. Also turn down the speed.

speed 6 on a GG6 with a megs mf pad=Failure almost every time.

If you slow things down,clean and rotate your pads very often you can dial them in and you'll be suprised at what you can accomplish.

 

[SonOfOC]

Heat,heat,heat.......Megs pads can't stand the heat.

They work like charm when you get them dialed in.......

I cannot comment on CG pads but Megs really don't like forced rotation equipment.....if your using a traditional da they play very well.

With megs mf pads you have to clean more often ( and commpressed air is the best method) lighten up on the arm pressure and make smaller section passes. Also turn down the speed.

speed 6 on a GG6 with a megs mf pad=Failure almost every time.

If you slow things down,clean and rotate your pads very often you can dial them in and you'll be suprised at what you can accomplish.

:iagree:100%. Speed 5-6 on GG or speed 6 on PC = Bye-bye MF pads. Let the tool, pad, and polish do the work at speed 4. Clean or change pads often, keep the working area small and you'll be amaze at how well it cuts!

 

[psynx]

:iagree:100%. Speed 5-6 on GG or speed 6 on PC = Bye-bye MF pads. Let the tool, pad, and polish do the work at speed 4. Clean or change pads often, keep the working area small and you'll be amaze at how well it cuts!

yea there not meant to be spun at speed 5 or 6. also thats why they include 2 each of cutting and finishing, swap them out on the fly to prevent that issue

 

[mets2010]

See which version Meg's pad you have if it says "made in the USA" you should be okay. The rep from meguiars said at detail fest they corrected the glue issue. Not sure if the old ones were recalled or if you just need to buy the new ones

 

[BorisC]

How are you cleaning them and how often?

I don't have air so I use a pad brush after every section.

Heat,heat,heat.......Megs pads can't stand the heat.

Probably the issue.

:iagree:100%. Speed 5-6 on GG or speed 6 on PC = Bye-bye MF pads. Let the tool, pad, and polish do the work at speed 4. Clean or change pads often, keep the working area small and you'll be amaze at how well it cuts!

They do cut well until they fall apart. I'm down to one Megs cutting mf so we'll see. I'll just use it on hoods & trunks for now.

 

[Pureshine]

Like everyone said heat is bad for them and You will need a lot of them. I always keep at least 8-10 on hand at all times Until they can perfect the glue on the back this will happen but I love they way they cut I won't use anything else.

 

[luv a shine]

i mist mine with water after each pannel. add one more drop of product.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

See which version Meg's pad you have if it says "made in the USA" you should be okay. The rep from meguiars said at detail fest they corrected the glue issue. Not sure if the old ones were recalled or if you just need to buy the new ones

^ This.

I have the new & improved "made in the USA" Meg's MF pads, and the adhesive is NIGHT AND DAY better! Very strong!!

 

[ww2717]

The new chemical guys black mf cut great and are made here in the usa.

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[ObsessiveAutoDetail]

The new chemical guys black mf cut great and are made here in the usa.

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The new CG black mf pads look suspiciously like the new B&S mf pads. I have the B&S mf pads and I can say they are the best of all I have tried. I only use them on my PC or Rupes.

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[AutowerxDetailing]

I have only tried the Meg's MF cutting discs and the LC UltraFiber pads. I have never had one fail on me. I usually use them on speed 5.

 

[Edse30]

My Meg's MF pads turned into an oval rather than round. Not slightly ovaled, full on oval. Still work fine so I haven't done anything about it but is this a common issue?
Had them about a year. Warped after the first use. Used about 10 times since.

 

[ww2717]

The chemical guys pads are the b&s pads. B&S makes those pads with the chemical guys logo on it. Same great pads. Just the cg logo.

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[BorisC]

Like everyone said heat is bad for them and You will need a lot of them. I always keep at least 8-10 on hand at all times Until they can perfect the glue on the back this will happen but I love they way they cut I won't use anything else.

I'll probably get some more w/ the next order & alternate pads after each panel to try to keep the heat down.

See which version Meg's pad you have if it says "made in the USA" you should be okay. The rep from meguiars said at detail fest they corrected the glue issue. Not sure if the old ones were recalled or if you just need to buy the new ones

^ This.

I have the new & improved "made in the USA" Meg's MF pads, and the adhesive is NIGHT AND DAY better! Very strong!!

I can't tell b/c the logo area has flattened out so it is not readable. These are the new version after the original adhesive issue. If they were updated again then I don't have those.

 

[runrun411]

This is gonna sound really, really dumb so please forgive me in advance. I don't have any MF pads and from what I've been reading in the forum the pad separation is one of the reasons why I didn't spring for them (the other being that you have to clean the pads so often during work). what if you had the edges of the pads stitched to the backing so that the MF would stay with the backing longer. I guess you would have to get a certain type of thread or take the pads to someone who has a machine so that the stitch can be deeply embedded to the pad to keep the thread from scratching the paint. Obviously the stitching would have to be around the very edge of the pad and would serve as a reinforcement.
Again please forgive my dumbness.

 

[jmfp]

This is gonna sound really, really dumb so please forgive me in advance. I don't have any MF pads and from what I've been reading in the forum the pad separation is one of the reasons why I didn't spring for them (the other being that you have to clean the pads so often during work). what if you had the edges of the pads stitched to the backing so that the MF would stay with the backing longer. I guess you would have to get a certain type of thread or take the pads to someone who has a machine so that the stitch can be deeply embedded to the pad to keep the thread from scratching the paint. Obviously the stitching would have to be around the very edge of the pad and would serve as a reinforcement.
Again please forgive my dumbness.

I've only had pads fail from the center first. The edges of my failed pads are still stuck. More heat in the center makes it fail first would be my guess

 

[Alek@DeepClean]

These MF pads tend to generate heat VERY quickly compared to foam. This excess heat is what's causing the failure that you're seeing. A backing plate with holes can help, as will keeping the speed on your DA only as high as is necessary(speed 4 or so). These things have so much cut that speed 6 isn't necessary to get timely results. Also, keeping them clean is extremely important. More product on the pad=more friction=more heat.