New Word of the Day

Exactly the reason why I happily read threads from members stating their new jobs and positions (non-detail oriented).

tuscaroradave, shoeless89, alko, Tundra_10, B&BTennessee, dad07, and many others.. and their personal exploits.

Threads, posts, and personal anecdotes from members concerning houses ( new/existing, or rehab thereof) , babies (Richy's daughters' artistic skills), life in country of origin snellvilleauto, etc.

The ability to see inside of forum members' daily existence will break the monotony of everyday detailing and tool/product choices. I posted yesterday how I looked up to Mark and BobbyG.,( and countless others) back when I was lurking...mainly due to their comaderie and general concern of each others' well being. This was the impetus for me to register here.

My day is now over, no income earned today... however, landed a prospect that's selling his MDX, and also wants his wife's vehicle detailed. Not a matter of IF, but, WHEN. The only issue is setting an appointment, due to scheduling issues of a contract computer specialist that's prepping PG Co. schools for fall reopening...the busy season for the prospect.

Will lurk around here for a little while longer; then will attend to personal chores around the house.

Vegas Transplant said:

Exactly the reason why I happily read threads from members stating their new jobs and positions (non-detail oriented).

tuscaroradave, shoeless89, alko, Tundra_10, B&BTennessee, dad07, and many others.. and their personal exploits.

Threads, posts, and personal anecdotes from members concerning houses ( new/existing, or rehab thereof) , babies (Richy's daughters' artistic skills), life in country of origin snellvilleauto, etc.

The ability to see inside of forum members' daily existence will break the monotony of everyday detailing and tool/product choices. I posted yesterday how I looked up to Mark and BobbyG.,( and countless others) back when I was lurking...mainly due to their comaderie and general concern of each others' well being. This was the impetus for me to register here.

My day is now over, no income earned today... however, landed a prospect that's selling his MDX, and also wants his wife's vehicle detailed. Not a matter of IF, but, WHEN. The only issue is setting an appointment, due to scheduling issues of a contract computer specialist that's prepping PG Co. schools for fall reopening...the busy season for the prospect.

Will lurk around here for a little while longer; then will attend to personal chores around the house.

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Vegas nice to see you enjoy my little quirks in life! I enjoy telling them. There are some great members here and thats why I myself hang around.We all come from different walks of life ...do different things for a living but we all come together for one reason,to share in our obbsesion of a clean and shiney ride!

My wife calls it my geek family...and she's right FAMILY!

:cheers: good buddy..eerrr hand....oh crap, I'm old and can't keep up.... but I will say My Freind!

dad07 said:

Vegas nice to see you enjoy my little quirks in life! I enjoy telling them. There are some great members here and thats why I myself hang around.We all come from different walks of life ...do different things for a living but we all come together for one reason,to share in our obbsesion of a clean and shiney ride!

My wife calls it my geek family...and she's right FAMILY!

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And she's right!
I ride for the brand and all that it entails.

dad07 said:

:cheers: good buddy..[SIZE=+2]ROFL...[/SIZE]eerrr hand....oh crap, I'm old and can't keep up.... but I will say My Freind!

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And, I too, my friend.
The next time that I'm Rock Hill bound ( family was here last weekend), I'll drop off a Mothers product (83432) that you'll probably get some use out of.:xyxthumbs:

I agree with dad07 on your: "attention to details"...taking note of other AGO members' lives---In, as well as out of: The AGO Forum Spotlight.

BTW... Thanks!! dad07 for responding to this thread...means a lot!



Bob

Vegas Transplant said:

And she's right!
I ride for the brand and all that it entails.



And, I too, my friend.
The next time that I'm Rock Hill bound ( family was here last weekend), I'll drop off a Mothers product (83432) that you'll probably get some use out of.:xyxthumbs:

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foam pad polish eh? would love to try it! Shout at me the next time your down this way!

FUNX725 said:

I agree with dad07 on your: "attention to details"...taking note of other AGO members' lives---In, as well as out of: The AGO Forum Spotlight.

BTW... Thanks!! dad07 for responding to this thread...means a lot!



Bob

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Your welcome Bob.... I don't mean to hijack to ramble...but time lately limits my time on the forum as far as posting goes.......but I do lurk quite a bit.

Without you all I would probably go off the deep end...WAIT I already have..I joined the Geek family!

Tundra great thread And Vegas and Bob, yoooz guys(whoops the yankee in me coming out) are top shelf!

Non Sequitur: Latin for, "it does not follow". An argument in which its conclusion does not follow its premise.

Source: Wikipedia.

Bear with me while i try to lay it out.

Kinda like telling the customer on the front end of the detail, that high content carnauba waxes produce the best results; then turn around and LSP the customer vehicle with sealant, due to appicant preference.

The reason for this post was a referral who questioned my choice of products on her sister's Jag (two days beforehand at estimate). At the time of the Jag (mid winter), I was always lsp'ing with 30'ish carnauba content waxes (as stated in product description), unless directed to do otherwise.

Fast forward two months later (pollen season) and several hours on a much neglected finish, I made the decision to end the detail at the conclusion of the sealing process. I did this not to short change the customer, but to prolong the quality of the finished product - no wax = less pollen build-up..

What happened is that while I was taking a snack break, I noticed how much pollen had built up on my waxed vehicle in two days. Her car is an outside 24/7 vehicle, and her sister's car is garaged. Previously while discussing product choice, she told me to do what's best.

Not only was it a good decision,(she coulda cared less), but she is now a dedicated customer ( who tips well ) that gets OOS/OCW every two weeks with the wash 'n shine package.

On another note: AG'ers are hard to BS. If you find yourself having to use logic to defend your postion to us (rather than common sense and/or accepted principles), then most likely we'll see through the BS rather quickly.
I don't know whether it's a red flag or Spidey-Senses tingling.

Jus' sayin'...

Happy detailing...:autowash:and a prosperous day to you all.

Vegas Transplant said:

Non Sequitur: Latin for, "it does not follow". An argument in which its conclusion does not follow its premise.

Bear with me while i try to lay it out.

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^^^^Excellent presentation, VT^^^^:dblthumb2:

Quite enjoyable...The visualization!---It was as if I was there myself!

-I, too, have noticed that there have been many cases in my life-time experiences where things (non sequiturs) just seemed to be:
'out of place', inconsistent, or just not in accord with "established norms".

-No doubt about it...I probably have been guilty of having exhibited incongruousness myself! <<<(even on the AGO Forum.)
But I'm always willing to accept and acknowledge rebuttals...Makes for interesting debates (no: mean-spiritedness)...
...if the involved parties are so inclined to do so.

-Something profound may even be learned in these exchanges.
Take my case, for example: Sometimes "old dogs can learn new tricks"...And I have!!!




Bob

"New word of the day"...06.28.2012:

Exiguity

Definition:
Austerity; diminutive; fewness; infrequency; insufficiency; meagerness; scarcity

Is it the exiguousness of discretionary income that is the: "Deal Breaker"...when it's decision-time to purchase 'expensive waxes', or not?
Or is it one's aplomb...their imperturbability, if you will...in resisting the exhortations of the marketers, and their minions?

No doubt...It's probably more involute than these two circumstantial archetypes.



Bob

FUNX725 said:

"New word of the day"...06.28.2012:

Exiguity

Definition:
Austerity; diminutive; fewness; infrequency; insufficiency; meagerness; scarcity

Is it the exiguousness of discretionary income that is the: "Deal Breaker"...when it's decision-time to purchase 'expensive waxes', or not?

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Indubitably! (think goofy gophers -'Mac' and 'Tosh') :laughing:

FUNX725 said:

Or is it one's aplomb...their imperturbability, if you will...in resisting the exhortations of the marketers, and their minions?

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Not being an 'enthusiast' by definition, I find little gain in the purchase of said waxes when proven, lower priced products serve me well.
Case in point. There's no need for me to consider Midnight Sun (forum favorite) when other waxes in the same class, but lower price point,
finish on par...and I already have a go to sealant.

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No doubt...It's probably more involute than these two circumstantial archetypes.



Bob

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Indeed!

Sometimes the grass may seem greener on the other side of the fence.

Case in point:

On Father's Day I detailed a charcoal grey 325. Two driveways (100') away, an enthusiast was detailing his dark blue 325. His car was pristine,
and the car I was working on was in rough shape.

Eventually, I walked over and inquired of his LSP. It was a Zymol product that was his weekly applied LSP...and the only wax in his arsenal.

By the time I had finished the OPS and OOS, he walked over and inquired of my LSP.
I showed him the OCW, and explained that I would be lsp'ing the finish as soon as I finished OCW'ing the door jambs.

This hand had seen the 'rough' 325 since forever. And the first time he saw it blinged out, he wanted to know what product could transform the gem in the rough.

I, on the otherhand, was most impressed with his finish, but not impressed by his product choice.

Aplomb. I like this word!

For 06.29.2010’s “new word of the day”:


Furcate
Definition: Divide(d) into branches


[(Furcation) Definition: The place where something divides into branches.]


-Bifurcate/bifurcation (dividing into two parts/branches) is one of the more common usages associated with furcation…for example: Legal proceedings, seminars, debates.
It appears to me as though (bi-)furcation could be applicable to AutoGeek-ians.


To Wit:
-Some recent subject matters, that have been reduced to the AGO forum’s thread-starter format…

(1.)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/52216-anyone-else-unmarried-am-i-weird.html

(Although, IMO, bifurcation through: ‘The Uniform Premarital Agreement Act of 1983’ ...(an Act governing prenuptial agreements with States’ approval/amendments), could be thought of as one method of easing the: “pangs of separation” ).

(2.)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...et-s-talk-about-expensive-wax-here-300-a.html

Where the debate between low-end/high-end (RE: *Price-points*, among other factors) goes forward in a bifurcated-fashion

(3.)
How many: ‘Steps/branches’ (furcations)…does a person/detailer perform in their vehicle detailing process(es)? (Hard to do a ‘mono-step’, IMO.)

a. Bifurcation; trifurcation; quadfurcation; quintfurcation; etc., etc.
b. (Customers’/clients’ payment for each addition ‘step’ should be accounted for, IMO)


Just a few thoughts I had.



Bob

After countless hours reading threads and viewing pictures, I dropped a few benjamins on a product line of my liking.

The dilema?

Now that I have something thats easy to use, has great protection, and desirable results, I no longer have an inclination to review other products.:doh:

It's like being at the dance and watching others having a great time do-si do'ing, while me and Moma are waiting for the slow dance.

But on the bright side, products are no longer furcately arranged on shelving according to manufacturer and abilities.

06.30.2012's :"new word of the day":

Sybaritic

Definition:
1. Devoted to or marked by pleasure and luxury.
2. Furnishing gratification to the senses;
3. Pleasure-loving,
4. Self-indulgent


Many AGO-ers, it seems, indulge in the ceremonial: "Sybaritical-Layering-of-LSP's".



Bob

A hot "new word of the day", 07.01.2012:

Prostration

Definition:
1. Lying with the face downwards, as in submission
2. To make or become exhausted, physically or emotionally
3. Helpless or defenceless
4. To lay down flat, or lying at full length, as on the ground
5. To reduce to extreme weakness or incapacitation

When the temperatures amd humidity soar, it's best to remember that: 'Heat Prostration' (heat-exhaustion) must be avoided...
Plenty of drinking-water intake, as well as finding access to a 'cooling-station' is imperative for staying: 'heat-safe'.
The next step-up from heat-prostration can possibly be the very debilitating: 'Heat Stroke'.

That vehicle-to-be-detailed will probably still be around for awhile...Make sure you are!
So be careful out there!!



Bob

FUNX725 said:

06.30.2012's :"new word of the day":

Sybaritic

Definition:
1. Devoted to or marked by pleasure and luxury.
2. Furnishing gratification to the senses;
3. Pleasure-loving,
4. Self-indulgent

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Due to the aftermath of recent storms, attaining the sybartic lifestyle has indeed been challenging.

Maryland hit hard by storm, more than 300,000 still without power - Baltimore buzz | Examiner.com

Never lost power, but cable, phone, and internet were out for 2 days.
Friends and relatives roughing it or at high price luxury hotels (everthing else booked solid).

Spent quality time with the misses viewing concert dvds collected over the years.
Two of her favorites were Janet Jackson Hawaii (HBO dvd release) and Michael Jackson's "This Is It".

[video=youtube_share;tyuf4GnJwao"]Janet Jackson Live Sex Tease On Stage - YouTube[/video]

Was in the middle of 'This IS IT' when the phone rang...hurray!!!
It was a dedicated customer ( was out of town) calling to see if I would drive to Glen Dale to check out his house...minor limbs in yard and 1 shutter blown from wall - power had been on for less than an hour according to neighbor who was investigating me walking through his neighbors (customer)yard.

FUNX725 said:

A hot "new word of the day", 07.01.2012:

Prostration

Definition:
1. Lying with the face downwards, as in submission
2. To make or become exhausted, physically or emotionally
3. Helpless or defenceless
4. To lay down flat, or lying at full length, as on the ground
5. To reduce to extreme weakness or incapacitation

When the temperatures amd humidity soar, it's best to remember that: 'Heat Prostration' (heat-exhaustion) must be avoided...
Plenty of drinking-water intake, as well as finding access to a 'cooling-station' is imperative for staying: 'heat-safe'.
The next step-up from heat-prostration can possibly be the very debilitating: 'Heat Stroke'.

That vehicle-to-be-detailed will probably still be around for awhile...Make sure you are!
So be careful out there!!




Bob

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Sounds like the talk that I heard from the wife yesterday as I was doing a quick in/out on customer Camry in the drive way yesterday.

I'm the pig-headed fool that gets cold being under the A/C all day.

She and the customer also laughed when I said that I needed to sit outside for a while to cool off before heading indoors.

FUNX725 said:

06.15.2012; "new word of the day"...

Tautology

Definition:
1. The use of words that merely repeat elements of the meaning already conveyed
2. Propositional Logic (Philosophy): A statement of truth; a truth-functional sequential expression/equation

An example of a: Detailing tautological sequential-expression…

A top-coat paint-film’s (CC) ‘glossness-factor’ is….Due to its ‘smoothness-factor’

My vehicle’s (CC) is 'glossy'….Therefore it is 'smooth'.


The second example, though, will probably: “hold water”!

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Great example FUN. For some reason this post came to mind today as I was talking to a service rep over the phone/online. I know hand, don't ask me why.

I hope that this isn't a repeat. I'm not going back into this thread!

Serendipity: means "happy accident", or "pleasant surprise", specifically, the accident of finding something good or useful without looking for it.
Wikipedia.

The non-family interpersonal relationships that I have in Md. consists mainly to that of detailing customers. Friends here are few, and far between , and family is limited.
I had time to think about this situation after the recent storm.
It would seem that I'm involved in non-detailing aspects of several clients lives. This serendiputous discovery came to mind when I called a customer whose taigate vehicle I detail and maintain during Pro football season. We had been invited to ( and have attended) several tailgates at Redskin Stadium and was invited today to his annual 4th cookout at his home.

Just yesterday, with the phone lines and power out in parts of P.G. county, a customer contacted me while he was away so that he could get a report of his home's condition after the storm. He had tried landlines and cell phones of family and neighbors to no avail.

The better half, on the other hand, has a friend girl ( first customer I attained here) who she goes out to dinner with on occasion, and said friend has taken two weekend trips to SC with us to keep the wife company as I attend to familial obligations, and, or detail jobs.

I've even had a customer inquire as to whether I could drive him and his wife to the Va. beach area for a funeral as they don't drive much outside of the community since retiring many years ago. Even though it was a profitable offer, I had to decline due to commitments here.

Anyway, jus thinkin'.

Vegas Transplant said:

Serendipity: means "happy accident", or "pleasant surprise", specifically, the accident of finding something good or useful without looking for it.
Wikipedia.

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OH! It was indeed serendipitous when our power/phone/internet was re-connected today!!

And...Don't know if you remember these guys, or not, VT,
but they were one of the "folk song groups" of the '60's.
They, along with others of that genre, tried to take our minds
off of the current events, of those long ago days.





Bob

^^^^^

Sorry, FUN, that's one I don't recall.
Check out the "hi-fi Monaural" endorsement on the album jacket.

Indistinct:
(a) not sharply outlined or separable
(b) faint, dim
(c) not clearly recognizable or undestandable

Often time we see threads concerning indistinctness of the clear coat finish after first time use of M105 on vehicles with a soft clear coat finish. Usually remedied by switching to a less aggressive pad, and, or product; or, by changing arm speed, number of passes, and other methodolgies.
This predicament is normally avoided by the use of a test spot to determine processes before continuing with correction.

Vegas Transplant said:

^^^^^

Sorry, FUN, that's one I don't recall.

Kinda ages me, doesn't it! LOL

Check out the "hi-fi Monaural" endorsement on the album jacket.

Hi-tech, for its day...Look how far audio has evolved. (Although vinyls/turntables are having a come-back, of sorts.)

Indistinct:
(a) not sharply outlined or separable
(b) faint, dim
(c) not clearly recognizable or undestandable

Often time we see threads concerning indistinctness of the clear coat finish after first time use of M105 on vehicles with a soft clear coat finish. Usually remedied by switching to a less aggressive pad, and, or product; or, by changing arm speed, number of passes, and other methodolgies.
This predicament is normally avoided by the use of a test spot to determine processes before continuing with correction.

^^^^Good indistinct example^^^^

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It appears that, at times, expert advice that's given for proper usage of detailing products, tools, and processes...
must have been either distinctly misunderstood; or, indistinctly given. Perhaps both.

The reason I dare to say this is:
There often arises situations where, no matter what personal efforts one puts forth,
attaining a blemish-free CC paint-film seems to be: "Dark and Gloomy"...

Why it's as if they were beset by the ghosts of the ancient Cimmerians---forever to abide in the:
indistinct land-of-perpetual-darkness---at the edge of the World!




Bob

FUNX725 said:

It appears that, at times, expert advice (or product description IME) that's given for proper usage of detailing products, tools, and processes...
must have been either distinctly misunderstood; or, indistinctly given. Perhaps both.

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I'll use this to illustrate: Menzerna Power Gloss, menzerna powergloss, menzerna S34A, menzerna s34, menzerna compound

First sentence, "Menzerna Power Gloss Compound is a powerful polishing compound...".
"Finishes with the gloss and smoothness of a polish."
Later, " This is what we call a self-refining compound."
Still further, "In fact, Menzerna Power Gloss Compound is not a true compound."

Imagine the uninitiated,
on a limited budget,
seeking a way to eliminate steps, products, and time,
that reads this product description and orders based on what he "thought" he had read.
* (Disclaimer- I've never purchased or used this product.)

I must have added/removed tons of products before I learned to slow down and carefully read each sentence, one at a time.

Btw, some here classify this product as " Rocks in a bottle".