Thanks for the follow up and review Guz!
Do you think that the mohs coating had been holding under the Skin? I know you like to try out different coatings after a year or so. But would it be worth it you think to apply a new layer of Skin with what you have left of it? Or around what time would you have done that?
I could be remembering it wrong. But mohs coating is not based on Sio2 I think. And the follow up question is if mohs coating is compatible with Gyeon Primer? There have been some that has have problems with the longevity when useing Carpro Essence and the gtechnic CSL/EXO combo over it. And CSL I think also is not a Sio2 coating. But since it's Gyeon family products they have taken care of that mohs coating is bonding properly to Gyeon Primer. It would not be interfear with the Skin maybe if mohs is not effected of Primer. And it's strange that the top coatings has lower longevity than the base coating. Would be interesting to test how it would work to do a new top coating layer of Skin down the road and how long it would last. The same if useing Carpro Gliss on one of their coatings.
Will be interesting to see what you experience with the 22ple products.
Thanks for shareing your experience with us!
/ Tony
I am sure Mohs was still there and that is the performance I was seeing on the areas where Skin was gone. Mohs is nice but it lacks in the hydrophobic properties. Mohs needs a topper in my opinion.
Honestly this is another issue I have with Syncro. I should not have to reapply skin every few months. Skin just needs a bit of a tweak to not have to reapply it so often. Especially considering the cost for the kit.
If I wanted to add more Skin then I could have reapplied it at that 5 month mark when I noticed it starting to degrade. For me as I was testing it, it was not worth it. But for someone who is looking to try this then I would continually top the coating to get close to that 2 year mark. The hydrophobic properties of Skin are much better than Cure but Cure does not need to have a prepped surface to be used as often.
As for Primer, I am sure Gyeon has done their homework and I have to trust their chemists that their products were designed to work with each other.
Indeed a great first-hand review by Guz. My experience has been slightly different. 8 full months as of this week with Syncro on my wife's Lincoln and it's doing awesome. I have just begun testing out for my personal interests Beadmaker as an after wash detail mist so going forward that could throw things off a bit but even just prior after 12k miles her coating has been performing like day 1. Even with BM on there was no change in the contact angle of water drops so that is speaking highly of it as a detail spray I think. I did lightly decontaminate the rear hatch once due to it slightly beginning to accumulate. Typical and most common on turbos for sure. That simple process completely restored it however.
My next move is to compare Gliss 1 vs Skin vs Gliss 2 in that order on her hood. Gliss v2 is due to my door any day and when I get around to it, I'll be doing the installation. My car has Q2 Pure topped with Skin which I did back in July and it too is doing crazy good. Both are garaged but we're in the midst of winter in Ohio so snow and dalt is just around the corner.
Thanks. Glad to hear you are having a good experience with it. I think the concept of Syncro is good. Being in the garage will help with the longevity of it.
Budget has used Gyeon Booster which is fluorine based and he can shed some light on that. This would be closer to Gliss. Speaking of Gliss, I just hit 5 months with CQUK 3.0 + Gliss V1 on my daily driver which also sits outside 24/7. As far as I can tell it is holding up fine at this point. I am waiting to see if I notice a degradation in water behavior given that CQUK 3.0 has better water behavior compared to Mohs.
Well done Guz. Pretty much mirrors my experience w/ Syncro...very high hopes initially but in my case, about 5 months in the crazy, entertaining water behavior brought about with Skin has degraded to the water behavior of Mohs, which in and of itself is not the most exciting out there. Granted, the vehicle I used it one was a fleet vehicle that did not receive regular maintenance.
Curious if the Pro-Only DURAFLEX has a more durable topcoat (Flexi)?
Hopefully Gyeon continues the development of Skin and makes it an item you could buy separately cuz it really is magical when it's fresh.
Thanks. I agree that Skin at the beginning is awesome. But too bad it fades rather quickly.
Selling it stand alone at this point would not be a bad thing for Gyeon.
Mike, how often did you wash that car and what soap did you use? Just wondering if any of that has an adverse effect on the coating.
It was washed weekly or biweekly. I don't use any shampoos with wax or gloss enhancers such as Adams or the occasional Reset. I was even using Bathe Essence at one point which is not my favorite soap.
Nicely done!
Excellent photography and detailed information. I also noticed you uploaded the pictures to the forum gallery. That's the way you do it.
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Thanks Mike. I use the forum photo album as long as it is working to host my photos.
