3 coating comparison

Interesting that you chose Sonüs Ion. <snip> What lead you to use it?
1. Hadn't read much about it. I did find a review after I used it which indicates it doesn't last very long.
2. It's called a coating, even though I don't think it is. But wanted to find out.
3. Price.

Coatings that have sample sizes and are inexpensive have a very good chance of getting tested by us. Coatings that are in the $50+ range are far too spendy to test. I'd gladly pay $20 to try a coating that appears to have some potential. (Would prefer to pay less, of course.)
 
Thanks!

Even if Ion is more of a sealant than a coating, that is valuable information so one can compare it with other sealants in the similar price range.
 
Long overdue update. Winter was long, cold, and wet. I gave up on trying to do any maintenance on this car.

Here's a couple of weeks ago with dew on the roof when it was dirty. Tape lines still visible, which means (to me) all the products are still doing something.
 
Long overdue update. Winter was long, cold, and wet. I gave up on trying to do any maintenance on this car. It was out in the elements all winter. It's seen consistent rain for months, plus a fair amount of snow and some ice.

Here's a couple of weeks ago with dew on the roof when it was dirty. Tape lines still visible, which means (to me) all the products are still doing something. I have a few others over the last few months I can post, but they look similar but more wet.


As a reminder, the roof products are laid out like this:


The hood is Duragloss Nano, PA Cosmic, and McKee's coating going left to right.

I gave the car a wash and the put the hose to the hood and the roof. Nothing else has been done to it since the last time I washed it. I hit it with the hose, then foamed it (barely) with some D114, then hit it with a pressure washer, then followed up with McKee's rinseless at 128:1 using MF towels.



This initial sheeting took place within a few seconds:


The was 5-10 seconds later:





The hood about 5-10 seconds after the hose:


Then about 30 seconds later...


For the roof, the Track Claw seems to be still hanging on and is actually repelling water faster than the coatings, which is more than a little surprising. The CQuartz and the DG Nano are still repelling water fairly well, if slowly. You can see the McKee's and Sonus Ion still doing something, but even more slowly. The DG Nano and McKee's are performing similarly on the hood. The PA seems to have mostly quit in both locations.
 
@RippyD. Interesting, interesting...
1 thing that sort of threw me off about your post though. You should've parked the car in the same direction as the 2nd pic in order to match your graph. [but that's just a minor gripe]

If you have a chance, please perform a baggie test on the test areas and let us know how that's doing at this point.

Thanks for the update, looks like you applied everything properly. Thumbs up to you for that.
 
Yeah... first pic car orientation - sorry about that. On the application, temps were not good for coating application. Weather should be ok here until October, so I'll try some other coating options in better conditions.

Will do baggie test and try to get some better pics this weekend. I would bet that baggie test will be bad. It rained here almost every day and this car commuted on the freeway. No doubt it's covered in road grime. Will be interesting to see of any of these resisted accumulating grime more than the others. I expect to have to clay all my cars again.
 
Did not get more pics as promised. Did the baggie test - it was fairly bad. Consider that this car has been driven in rain for most of the last 8 months. It's going to have a lot of contamination. I can't recall if it's recommended to clay over coatings, but I'm likely going to. I get that it may diminish the coating somewhat.
 
For me the value is in trying to keep the car relatively clean in the long winter here. Pretty hard to apply sealant or wax when it's under 40 degrees, and zero cure time before rain hits it. So if I coat in the summer, I can probably get by until the next summer. Alternatively, I can a durable sealant right before winter and then again in the spring. Not a huge difference in terms of effort.

Given the weather where I am I don't think I'd get 2 years out of any coating. My cars are bathed in road grime for ~7 months in a row. Its' one thing to sit outside. It's another to have particulate matter driven into your car at 60 mph for months at a time.
 
Thanks for this. It does seem that doing a sealant every 4-6 months is the best way. That seems to provide enough overlap that there is still some protection on the paint towards the tail end, thus applying another coat should help.

I wanted to do a coating but it doesn't seem that they last all that long under normal DD conditions
 
Thanks for this. It does seem that doing a sealant every 4-6 months is the best way. That seems to provide enough overlap that there is still some protection on the paint towards the tail end, thus applying another coat should help.

I wanted to do a coating but it doesn't seem that they last all that long under normal DD conditions

I wouldn't write them off totally. They may actually work well for you. I've gone with a coating on all three of my daily driven vehicles, and at this point will not go back to a sealant. Here's why:

- I only have to fully detail the car (i.e. correct/seal) every 12~18 months vs every 6 with a sealant

- Routine care has become FAR easier with a coating. Washing is nearly effortless and since the dirt/grime comes off so much easier. I've also found drying to be easier as more water sheets off and water spots have been nearly eliminated. I spend less time and effort during routing washes.

- Extra wash steps like bug removal are almost eliminated as the splatters are significantly easier to remove

- The car stays cleaner. I've found pollen and dust build up isn't as bad and a on several occasions torrential rain that hit while I was at work knocked it all off and served as a free car wash.

I've not found the coatings to be some miracle cure for auto detailing, but they have made life far easier.
 
I wouldn't write them off totally. They may actually work well for you. I've gone with a coating on all three of my daily driven vehicles, and at this point will not go back to a sealant.

Hey bud,
Thats what I finally changed my thought process to. But here is my dilemma... I dont have a garage, but I have a large driveway that is covered by trees, so direct sunlight isnt an issue.But the dew that forms on the vehicle over night may pose an issue with the curing, and with the natural inlfux of pollen, airborne stuff in the air etc, Im afraid it'll be money wasted and the product wont bond correctly.

I bought M37's coating to try out, but all the issues with it really not lasting, becoming full of contaminates etc scared me away from that. I see MOHS but I dont really want to do two coats, I dont know.. As you can see, Im a bit indecisive.
 
I bought M37's coating to try out, but all the issues with it really not lasting, becoming full of contaminates etc scared me away from that. I see MOHS but I dont really want to do two coats, I dont know.. As you can see, Im a bit indecisive.

Since you already have it, I'd highly recommend trying it out. You'll never know if it works for you unless you try. Fortunately, the product is very easy to use which makes it a pretty low-risk product.

I'm using M37's coating on my vehicles. I didn't bring it up at first to risk running even farther off topic in this thread...oh, well. Two of my cars are wearing a layer I applied last October and they are doing just fine. They look amazing and beading/sheeting is still as good as when first applied. At this point, I am going to leave it on through next winter and re-apply at the 18-month point. I do not use toppers.

I've learned 2 things from this adventure in coatings:

1. Keep the vehicle clean. As long as grime doesn't build up for months at a time, you'll see great water behavior.
2. If the car does get significantly grimy for long periods (i.e. long winter months, etc), getting back into a regular wash routine will revive the water behavior. I've witnessed this first hand on two vehicles now. Each time I washed the car water, behavior improved for the first 3~4 washes. Appearance has always been that "fresh waxed" look, so I knew something had to be there.
 
Actually I sold the coating and the N914. I chickened out and I have doing things twice. I saw too many "issues" from people to use it. Granted you only hear the bad about a product, I know, but maybe I jumped the gun? Regardless the coating is gone, so Im back to the thinking board.. I havent polished the truck yet this year ( wAYYYY behind schedule ) so I still have time to choose.
 
I wouldn't write them off totally. They may actually work well for you. I've gone with a coating on all three of my daily driven vehicles, and at this point will not go back to a sealant. Here's why:

- I only have to fully detail the car (i.e. correct/seal) every 12~18 months vs every 6 with a sealant

- Routine care has become FAR easier with a coating. Washing is nearly effortless and since the dirt/grime comes off so much easier. I've also found drying to be easier as more water sheets off and water spots have been nearly eliminated. I spend less time and effort during routing washes.

- Extra wash steps like bug removal are almost eliminated as the splatters are significantly easier to remove

- The car stays cleaner. I've found pollen and dust build up isn't as bad and a on several occasions torrential rain that hit while I was at work knocked it all off and served as a free car wash.

I've not found the coatings to be some miracle cure for auto detailing, but they have made life far easier.
I get it. Same can be said for a good sealant except for the durability. I doubt I would correct every 6 months. Maybe a non-abrasive paint cleaner. The issue is if I need to clay and I'm removing some of the coating anyway (TBD), it's not doing me much more good than a sealant. I'll see what happens after I clay the roof. And I have a fair amount of coating to use up, so at least one car will be fully coated soon. More likely 2.

Keeping a car clean in the winter where I live is a fruitless exercise. It's filthy again as soon as I give 2 miles. I can try to keep the grime down, but really not worth the effort. And it's unpleasant to do when it's 30 degrees out, even in the garage.
 
I wouldn't write them off totally. They may actually work well for you. I've gone with a coating on all three of my daily driven vehicles, and at this point will not go back to a sealant. Here's why:

- I only have to fully detail the car (i.e. correct/seal) every 12~18 months vs every 6 with a sealant

- Routine care has become FAR easier with a coating. Washing is nearly effortless and since the dirt/grime comes off so much easier. I've also found drying to be easier as more water sheets off and water spots have been nearly eliminated. I spend less time and effort during routing washes.

- Extra wash steps like bug removal are almost eliminated as the splatters are significantly easier to remove

- The car stays cleaner. I've found pollen and dust build up isn't as bad and a on several occasions torrential rain that hit while I was at work knocked it all off and served as a free car wash.

I've not found the coatings to be some miracle cure for auto detailing, but they have made life far easier.
I get it. Same can be said for a good sealant except for the durability. I doubt I would correct every 6 months. Maybe a non-abrasive paint cleaner. The issue is if I need to clay and I'm removing some of the coating anyway (TBD), it's not doing me much more good than a sealant. I'll see what happens after I clay the roof. And I have a fair amount of coating to use up, so at least one car will be fully coated soon. More likely 2.

Keeping a car clean in the winter where I live is a fruitless exercise. It's filthy again as soon as I give 2 miles. I can try to keep the grime down, but really not worth the effort. And it's unpleasant to do when it's 30 degrees out, even in the garage.
 
But a Sealant is more prone to be 'washed' off. That's also my dilemma, I like the ease of a sealant but the coatings longevity is nice. And really IMO if you top a coating, you have a barrier that is pretty strong.

Sure the qualities of the coating will be diminished but seems like a good trade off.
 
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