4" pads on PC7424XP Questions

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Hello All,

I have a PC and was wondering if it was ok to use 4" spotbuffs with a 3.5" LC backing plate for tight spot correction? Is that the proper plate to use or is the 3" better?

Can I use this combo like I would if I had a griots 3" polisher (To use on tight spots/bumpers etc)?

Do the spotbuffs come in Low profile form?

Any special speed settings I should use with the 4" pad for polishing as opposed to the 5.5" pads I usually use? I heard they don't go well on speed 6 but would speed 3 or 4 or 5 be best for correction work?

Finally, would it be worth it just to get a griots 3" or have you guys found that the 4" spotbuffs do a good job as well?

BTW I am not talking about the spotbuff extender attachment, just the backing plate/spot buff.

Thanks,
Drew:xyxthumbs:
 
I wouldnt get the 3" Griots. Ive heard it doesnt have enough torque.

Im using a 3.5 LC plate with 4" Meguiar's pads on speed 5. Works great on small panels. I think you can get the 4" LC HydroTech's but the reason I swayed away from those is because many users were reporting that they were falling apart after a few uses.
 
CM8 6MT said:
I wouldnt get the 3" Griots. Ive heard it doesnt have enough torque.

Im using a 3.5 LC plate with 4" Meguiar's pads on speed 5. Works great on small panels. I think you can get the 4" LC HydroTech's but the reason I swayed away from those is because many users were reporting that they were falling apart after a few uses.
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Well said.
 
I use 4" LC pads and a LC 3.5" backing plate quite often on my PCXP. I do like the hydrotechs a little better than the CCS spot buff. I haven't seen any "low profile" 4" pads, probably because the PC has no trouble at all spinning the smaller pad. I use a speed setting around 4 for spot correction usually. I definately wouldn't buy a seperate machine for them.
 
I have used Meg's 4inch pads on my G110v2 and I have nothing but great results with that combo for tight spots.
 
For 4" pads I really like these CG self centering pads. You use them with a 3" plate, and the plate perfectly countersinks a into the pads. They act very low profile - as the BP sinks into the pad. This helps with a PC, and they spin well.

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I also have 3" Hydro Tech pads. They are not the low profile ones. They are too tall to use with a PC in my experience. They work ok, but there is a lot of energy absorbed by their "high profile" and the machine "skips" when spinning until they are saturated with product IME. However, at 3", they are handy.

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I heard that the griots may not have enought torque for actual "correction"? The 4" on the PC have correction power correct?

Also, I can use the 4" on small panels or sections of panels not just for spot correction. I was just unsure because the description of the 4" talk mainly about spot correction.

Thanks for the helpful advise so far.
 
-GG6
-3.5 LC plate
-4" Meguiar's Pad
-CM8 behind the DA :)

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WRXINXS said:
I heard that the griots may not have enought torque for actual "correction"? The 4" on the PC have correction power correct?

Also, I can use the 4" on small panels or sections of panels not just for spot correction. I was just unsure because the description of the 4" talk mainly about spot correction.

Thanks for the helpful advise so far.
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4" pads are fine, I use them for small panels such as fenders, bumpers etc.
 
WRXINXS said:
I heard that the griots may not have enought torque for actual "correction"? The 4" on the PC have correction power correct?

Also, I can use the 4" on small panels or sections of panels not just for spot correction. I was just unsure because the description of the 4" talk mainly about spot correction.

Thanks for the helpful advise so far.
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You could buff out the whole car w/ 4" pads if you want to. It would just take longer. It doesn't have to be for "spot correction", but, for larger areas like a hood its much quicker and more efficient to use a larger pad IMHO.
 
I have used a 3.5" BP on my PC7424XP with 4" Hexlogic pads and it works great.
 
swanicyouth said:
You could buff out the whole car w/ 4" pads if you want to. It would just take longer. It doesn't have to be for "spot correction", but, for larger areas like a hood its much quicker and more efficient to use a larger pad IMHO.
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+1
 
OK, thanks for the help and suggestions guys (And the nice pics Swanic and CM8). I guess I have been using them right (Fenders/Bumpers etc) And It did seem to have good correction power which I have heard the Griots 3" does not.
 
swanicyouth said:
For 4" pads I really like these CG self centering pads. You use them with a 3" plate, and the plate perfectly countersinks a into the pads. They act very low profile - as the BP sinks into the pad. This helps with a PC, and they spin well.
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Did you get the 3" backing plate from CG that also has the da and drill attachment? If someone didn't want to spend $60 for the DA power system they could get that for $16.45.
 
I wish I could add value here, but I'll just echo everything posted by CM8 6MT. :)

I actually love 4" pads and the extra bit of oomph they provide on the PC. I've done whole cars with them, and honestly haven't found a huge increase in time associated with the effort....especially in cases where I'd otherwise be making multiple passes when using larger pads. And then, when you come to the tight spots, the ability to attack them without worry brings a goofy smile.
 
VroomVroom said:
I wish I could add value here, but I'll just echo everything posted by CM8 6MT. :)

I actually love 4" pads and the extra bit of oomph they provide on the PC. I've done whole cars with them, and honestly haven't found a huge increase in time associated with the effort....especially in cases where I'd otherwise be making multiple passes when using larger pads. And then, when you come to the tight spots, the ability to attack them without worry brings a goofy smile.
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I agree with Vroom, depending on how the panels are shaped on certain cars, its a little hard to work with a 5.5 or 6.5 pad.
 
CM8,
That Meg's 4" Pad looks "quite pretty" on the LC 3.5 Backing Plate! Looks like a perfect fit to me.

I began very first use with my PC XP with the 3.5" Plate, because when I recieved it from AG, along with the 5" LC BP, the threads were deformed on the 5" Plate, and couldn't use it. (AG did quickly send another BTW)

I used a 4" LC HT Orange Pad, and polished my little Kia Spectra with it, with WGTSR.

I noted a seperation as well of that particular HT Pad, that just the center portion came away from the foam. Thought it was strange that happening, but it could've also been from overuse, and excessive heat? I'm not actually sure? Will have to experiment some more with the remaining 4" HT Pads I have to see if others will do this?

I did later also wind up getting the baby Griots DA.

I'll have to remember the Meg's Pads next time I place an AG order.

Thanks for your info, and the picture. Mark
 
MarkD51 said:
CM8,
That Meg's 4" Pad looks "quite pretty" on the LC 3.5 Backing Plate! Looks like a perfect fit to me.

I began very first use with my PC XP with the 3.5" Plate, because when I recieved it from AG, along with the 5" LC BP, the threads were deformed on the 5" Plate, and couldn't use it. (AG did quickly send another BTW)

I used a 4" LC HT Orange Pad, and polished my little Kia Spectra with it, with WGTSR.

I noted a seperation as well of that particular HT Pad, that just the center portion came away from the foam. Thought it was strange that happening, but it could've also been from overuse, and excessive heat? I'm not actually sure? Will have to experiment some more with the remaining 4" HT Pads I have to see if others will do this?

I did later also wind up getting the baby Griots DA.

I'll have to remember the Meg's Pads next time I place an AG order.

Thanks for your info, and the picture. Mark
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Not a problem Mark im glad my post/pics are helpful. The actual pad has the hook & loop velcro about 3/4" away from the edge of the pad. The Meg's recommended plate for it isnt available at AG, or at least I dont think. Anyway the LC 3.5 plate works fine because the pad itself had a bevel to it, so there is absolutely no issues as far as the plate hitting the paint or anything. The only "issue" I have with it, is that it really grabs onto the pad. I havent had any issues with these as far as delamination, but I will keep you guys posted if I encounter any problems with them. They seem to hold up rather well for being such small pads.
 
Looking to get some more 4" pads for my PC w/3.5" backing plate and some 3" pads for the mini griots. Is there any benefit of getting Low profile 7/8" in the 4" pads for the PC or the 3" pads for the griots? I guess it might matter more for the mini griots because of lack of power?
 
WRXINXS said:
Looking to get some more 4" pads for my PC w/3.5" backing plate and some 3" pads for the mini griots. Is there any benefit of getting Low profile 7/8" in the 4" pads for the PC or the 3" pads for the griots? I guess it might matter more for the mini griots because of lack of power?
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I am not crazy about the "thick' 4" LC CCS pads. I'm hoping to get low profile in the future if I can find them. In the meantime the Hydrotech 4" work good for me. Does AG sell 4 X 7/8" pads?
 
Why you dont invest in a cyclo adaptor and use the 4 inches edge doublesited pads..last langer than any brand ..As well know in dual action 4 inches cuts more that 5,5 .. i always cut with 4 inches and finish with 5,5
 
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