71 HEMI Cuda Convertible 4 speed

Were not some of the early 70 Chevelles tagged with both 396 and 402 emblems.Left over engines from 69.I know there were 70 and a half Camaro`s built with the 396-375 HP(Less than 700).I have seen both with protect-o -plates and build sheets.The 402`s where two bolts bored 30 over and the 396- 375`s were four bolts.I have a late 69 375 HP in my Camaro.Maybe the 70 Chevelles were delivered to dealers as left overs.
 
57BORNTORUN said:
Were not some of the early 70 Chevelles tagged with both 396 and 402 emblems.Left over engines from 69.I know there were 70 and a half Camaro`s built with the 396-375 HP(Less than 700).I have seen both with protect-o -plates and build sheets.The 402`s where two bolts bored 30 over and the 396- 375`s were four bolts.I have a late 69 375 HP in my Camaro.Maybe the 70 Chevelles were delivered to dealers as left overs.
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I believe that the 396/(402)...350/375hp...were also available in 1969 Chevelles.

And:
Since the 402 was also a 1970 "SS"396 Chevelle engine option:
Some 1970 Chevelles being tagged with both 396/402 emblems is a distinct likelihood.

(My Brother had one...I'll check with him to be sure.)


GM likes to use up already-on-the-shelves-stock...
Randomly at times...it seems.
Makes for some interesting combinations!


Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS:

Engines:
•L34 402 V8 350bhp@5200rpm, 415lb-ft@3400.
•402 V8 375bhp@5600rpm, 415lb-ft@3600rpm
•LS5 454 V8 360bhp@5400rpm, 500lb-ft@3200rpm
•LS6 454 V8 450bhp@5600rpm, 500lb-ft@3600rpm

Performance:
LS6 454/450: 0-60 in 6.1 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.7 sec @ 103mph.

Bob
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Ah , thanx for the comeback Bob ! Appreciated .

These were the good years to be in .
 
No Chevelles were badged 402. They were invested in the 396 and kept that even when they went to 402's.
 
Riff said:
No Chevelles were badged 402. They were invested in the 396 and kept that even when they went to 402's.
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Yeah, small boring from the factory, that's all.

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Riff said:
No Chevelles were badged 402.

They were invested in the 396 and kept that
even when they went to 402's.
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I'll wager that:
In the early '70s there were different EPA emissions regulations for engines over 400 cubic inches, than there were for engines under 400 cubic inches.

An easy way out for GM/Chevrolet (the +.030 bore)...without having to design a new Mark-IV engine...and still have two 396 engine-"sizes" for SS Chevelles, and other GM vehicles/models as well.

Bob
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Special Note to OP (57BORNTORUN):
Please excuse my wandering astray from your thread-starter's subject matter...
I suppose I just can't help from doing so. :)
 
FUNX725 said:
Special Note to OP (57BORNTORUN):
Please excuse my wandering astray from your thread-starter's subject matter...
I suppose I just can't help from doing so. :)
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OOOPS!!...My apology to 57BORNTORUN:
I meant the OP (davidc)!

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
OOOPS!!...My apology to 57BORNTORUN:
I meant the OP (davidc)!

Bob
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Wandering from the Cuda is fine. There was more original muscle cars than Hemi Cuda's, Chevelle's and Corvette's. Anyone that was around in those day's can relate to this thread and could be a learning curve for those that were not. All 3 major manufacturers had a hand in the game and everyone had their favorites. These days there are still favorites but anyone can and should admire any make of vehicle that has survived as it is part of our heritage. I do not want to leave American Motors ( Rambler) out of the mix as they also had a hand in this and should also be recognized no matter the feeling of that brand. All of those vehicles were true U.S.A muscle.

Dave
 
The GTO, Superbird, Challenger,Camaro, Nova, AMX, Daytona, 442, GTX, 427 Impala, factory installed special orders, dealer installed such as Yenco, Baldwin Motion ect.What did I leave out?I get a pass since I know the original owner`s Brother of the 3.5 Mill.Cuda.:hijacked:
 
davidc said:
Wandering from the Cuda is fine.
There was more original muscle cars than Hemi Cuda's, Chevelle's and Corvette's.
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Thanks...

davidc said:
Anyone that was around in those day's can relate to this thread and could be a learning curve for those that were not. All 3 major manufacturers had a hand in the game and everyone had their favorites. These days there are still favorites but anyone can and should admire any make of vehicle that has survived as it is part of our heritage. I do not want to leave American Motors ( Rambler) out of the mix as they also had a hand in this and should also be recognized no matter the feeling of that brand. All of those vehicles were true U.S.A muscle.

Dave
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Sometimes I do wish I still had one of my favorites:
My 1970 Plymouth GTX (440 Magnum)...

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Sometimes I do wish I still had one of my favorites:
My 1970 Plymouth GTX (440 Magnum)...

Bob
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I feel for you on that one, they are still a lot of fun. Pretty difficult finding that .29 cent fuel tho.

Dave
 
I looked at the Cuda at Mecum Indy, great looking car.
For me I guess I'm less concerned with matching numbers. I would be fine with a 69 Hemi Charger recreation. It would probably be better for me because we drive our old cars.
It is going to be interesting how the collector car hobby will fare over the next 20 years as it's core demographic cashes out.
 
57BORNTORUN said:
I forgot the Buick model GS.
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Buick was right there in 65' with the 442 and SS396 Mailbu, along with the GTO for its 2nd year. The 442 was called "The doctors muscle car" because it was a better quality car, wonder what the Buick should've been called, LOL! Buick was also the king of torque and in 70' had 510 ft/lbs of torque @2800 rpm in its GS455 stage I, the most "rated" torque for any muscle car of the era! Then flash forward 17 years to the 87' GN, 355 ft/lbs of torque at just 2000 rpm!

The aluminum V8 they (Buick) had in the early 60's was bought by Land Rover and used in their rides well into the 90's too!

Did you guys know Olds had a turbocharged engine in the early 60's?

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Question without going to Google(no cheating) what did the original 442 and second gen. and GTO stand for (no cheating)
 
57BORNTORUN said:
Question without going to Google(no cheating) what did the original 442 and second gen. and GTO stand for (no cheating)
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I used to be able to quote this stuff off-the-cuff...

I'll take a stab at 442:
4-speed (manual), 4-bbl carb, dual exhaust.

GTO:
G-ran T-ouring ...something or the O-ther...LOL!

Bob
 
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