A few questions before I turn on my GG6

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I've worked by hand all my life because I just do my own cars, and I enjoy taking it slow - one panel per night - that kind of thing. However, this latest used car needs some swirl repair that these old arms ain't fit for correcting. So I got me a GG.

The owner's manual for this thing leaves a bit to be desired. Pity, since it seems to be written here in the USA on nice shiny stock, and there plenty of real estate to talk about the machine rather than waxing poetic about their other products. I've answered most of my questions using this excellent forum (different backing plates, will it stop on corners like the Porter, etc).

In a little baggy there are two short wires, terminated on one end for a min-blade connection, the other end with odd blocks of some kind. What are these for?

Second, my backing plate, when I spin it, is not 100% true. There's a slight wobble. Is this an issue?

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They should be extra brushes for the motor if I'm not mistaken. I also believe the backing plate, due to the nature of a DA/RA, is not supposed to be 'true' as in a rotory polisher.

You are good to go! Happy polishing/correcting!
 
Chrono said:
In a little baggy there are two short wires, terminated on one end for a min-blade connection, the other end with odd blocks of some kind. What are these for?
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Without a picture to go on, I'll take a stab at it and say:
Replacement motor brushes.

Bob
 
Hey Chrono,

You'll enjoy the GG6, I own one as well. Works great.

--The wires, I haven't looked much into it, so I can give you a 100% answer.

--When you spin, since it is a dual action, it won't spin perfect, its supposed to be that way. (basically, it moves up and down, side to side to ensure you don't burn the paint)

Check this out before you use it, this will help.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...-articles-help-newbies-machine-polishing.html
 
It's a good machine, plenty of threads about how to use it. You'll have to go back to lifting weights to keep your arms in shape.
 
Side to side "wobble" is to be expected with a DA type machine, in that the backing plate-pad goes beyond following a perfect circle as it rotates.

Now if the Backing plate was rocking in an up and down plane perpendicular to the drive shaft, like the shaft of the DA was bent, or that the Backing Plate is deformed in such a way to create the same issues, then yes, this could be a problem.
Mark
 
FUNX725 said:
Without a picture to go on, I'll take a stab at it and say:
Replacement motor brushes.

Bob
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Yes they are extra brushes. I also got them when I purchased my Griots. DA does wobble and yes it does get heavy and vibrate. I used mine a couple of weeks ago and did a nice job on my car.

Read Mikes links also on test spots and marking plate.
 
Thanks for the great responses everyone!
My first impressions of the machine, on a practice car, is that I'm gonna take that handle off!
 
There ya go...first thing i did was take the handle off. Good luck with it and enjoy the results. Rest your arms for 12 ounce curls when your done!:xyxthumbs:
 
Those are extra brushes--I called Griots when I got mine and they said to throw them out as if you were to install them you would void the lifetime warranty. Manufacturer continues to pack them with the polisher even though Griots has asked them not to.

A suggestion: even though the GG6 has the power to spin 6.5" pads you'd be better off replacing your backing plate now with a 5" BP and start using 5.5" pads before you spend $$$$'s on the larger pads. 5.5" are more effective, easier to use on curved panels and cost less.
 
Great answers you had, and I wish you good luck.

The instruction manual of this polisher has ~45.303 pages at the moment, you just need to read all Mike Phillips posts, than you can read the extras (what we all wrote), and you're ready to turn on the machine!

No, wait! You have some thousands of videos to watch as well!

;)


Please, count on us (on me, at least, from whom I can talk for) if you need any further support.

Also, don't forget to post you before / after pictures for us to follow your evolution.

About the Handle, I would say for you it's too early to remove.

It's better without the handle, but I suggest you to get experience (just a little) prior removing it.

The handle may act as a safety device if anything odd or unexpected happens in the beginning. It makes easier to safely hold the polisher until you get used to on/off mechanism, and many other things.

When you get some use with the polisher, I encourage you to remove the handle and improve from there.

You will feel comfortable in no time,

Just try to be on the safe side to start with.

Good luck!

Kind Regards.
 
Odd that Griots can't control the manufacturer in such a simple matter as leaving out that bag of wires.

Thanks Tato. I've learned a lot so far. So much, in fact, that I'm ready to post my first How-To. Look for it, it's called "Compound, Polish, and Wax in One Step with 6" DA".
 
Awesome!, I've already posted in your first How-to thread, but at that time I haven't related this thread with that one.

Looks like you not just learned everything, but already created new ways that may work even better than our conventional polishing systems ahhaha

You're great, mate!

Good luck,

Kind Regards.
 
ski2 said:
Those are extra brushes--I called Griots when I got mine and they said to throw them out as if you were to install them you would void the lifetime warranty. Manufacturer continues to pack them with the polisher even though Griots has asked them not to.

A suggestion: even though the GG6 has the power to spin 6.5" pads you'd be better off replacing your backing plate now with a 5" BP and start using 5.5" pads before you spend $$$$'s on the larger pads. 5.5" are more effective, easier to use on curved panels and cost less.
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Excellent advice. I also did this and machine worked alot better...
 
Tato said:
About the Handle, I would say for you it's too early to remove.

It's better without the handle, but I suggest you to get experience (just a little) prior removing it.

The handle may act as a safety device if anything odd or unexpected happens in the beginning. It makes easier to safely hold the polisher until you get used to on/off mechanism, and many other things.
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I actually like the handle on the GG6. I don't feel it gets in the way at all until you get near the side view mirror, and only just barely. With the handle, I can reposition my arms so I don't get carpal tunnel or sore from using the same "stance" holding the machine for hours.

That said, I wish it was 1/3 shorter than it is. Keep the same width, just don't make it as tall.

It is the switch I'd like to see improved the most on this machine. When my hands are covered in slick product, I'm fighting the switch to turn off the machine. I can't always wash my hands completely clean before using the DA. Or MF soap spray is on them or the DA...I'm 6'2" and lift weights 3-4 times a week and if I struggle I am not sure how some of you guys don't complain about it too - unless perhaps my switch is just stiffer than other machines for some reason?

Hey Griots, a perfect solution is to:

1) Make the switch have a taller shoulder on it so it is easier to pull down
2) Lengthen the cavity in which the switch slides so there is more of a pocket above the end of the switch at its ON position so I can get my finger into that cavity to more easily pull the switch down to the OFF position
3) or....do both #1 and #2 for a nice improvement.

While I'm at it. Make the whole bottom of the machine a rotary potentiometer to make it very easy to change speeds. These two changes would be awesome.
 
I got a 5" backing plate and some 5.5" pads and they work great! Being careful, I can even use my 4" pads on the 5" plate for RID removal work.

So far the machine is brilliant. Could not have done it without the help!!
 
Very good results so far with the GG6. After some funny mishaps, I got the hang of it. Aside from masking off and prep, it's fun. One mishap involved a 4" pad on a 5" backing plate (I know) and the foam became delamintated from its own velcro backing. It SHOT out of the garage, down the driveway, and made a left at the road after it hit ground, where it rolled to the neighbors yard. Also some major compound sling from a wet pad. The entire car was covered in brown dot. A riot.

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