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I am not sure if anyone read my 350z thread I started or not? It was my first project car and I decided it wasn’t really for me. I REALLY have always wanted a v8 muscle car so I found one. It really is mint and can’t believe the deal I got on it but the paint seems a little dull/oxidized? Was wondering if anyone has dealt with this and how to restore as best as possible. I really don’t want to paint this car. It is a 79 mustang gt and is a two owner car with ONLY 25k miles!! It’s amazing in most areas but still 40 years old so the paint needs some love. Any tips or ideas will be appreciated!! Pictures attached. I’m picking it up in a couple of weeks!
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For the record, I was looking for a car I could fix up and make a street rod but I can’t bring myself to mess with this. To me this is to rare a find to mess up. Everyone agree? I think keep it stock and clean and do car shows?


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That’s pretty sweet and in awesome shape. I like the red interior. I would hot rod it up personally. U need to find out what kind of paint your working with first. Single stage or basecoat/clearcoat. Then you can decide a process. If it is single stage, Mike Phillips has several articles here on how to use Meg’s #7.
 
Friends don't let friends drive stock, how about a turbo LS under that hood.
 
I sold the z for a nice profit. It ended up needing a little much in the way of hidden issues. Boost leak, rear main seal, etc. Stuff was fine until those little things started popping up. I would love to build the 302 eventually but later on. I would never disgrace a ford with a ls . Any idea what a 79 mustang had in way of paint??


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Well i would have just said throw a turbo on it but the old 302 is known to split the block under boost,

and who can afford a coyote motor lol. I'm not sure about the paint, other than i would be single stage.
 
Strong66 said:
Well i would have just said throw a turbo on it but the old 302 is known to split the block under boost,

and who can afford a coyote motor lol. I'm not sure about the paint, other than i would be single stage.
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I know you can typically do heads, cam and intake and then spray the doors off with nitrous and they do good. I’ve seen a many hold it but the support mods are done. I’d like a street rod at most though. Not looking to drag this one though. It would pain me to molest such a clean ride. These are so hard to find un touched almost like broncos. Am I crazy for wanting to clean this and keep it factory?? It does look like a papaw ride but it’s got that nostalgia to it.


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I would call you crazy if you did it any other way than the exact way you want to do it.

Cars can bring back memories, i would love to have a stock 66 chevelle, its just not in the budget.

I wouldn't care if people called a papaw ride if its how you want it.

Its hard to find a car in that good of shape, great find.
 
Thanks strong. It was an amazing find for me and a smoking deal. I’ve got some money left in the budget for some wheels and exhaust but again, I HATE messing with this because it’s so cherry.


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Well the more I read and research, the more this is scaring me. It seems to be a single stage and metallic .
From reading Mike’s article online, it looks like best I can do is use #7 glaze and that’s it? Is this correct??


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I'd keep it stock. It's really sweet and a low mileage example!

No, you can polish/compound/correct single stage paint. I'd hit it with some 7 and do that first to get it ready for any additional work that you will do. From the looks of it, it should really turn out well!!!

Keep us posted!
 
Sizzle Chest said:
I'd keep it stock. It's really sweet and a low mileage example!

No, you can polish/compound/correct single stage paint. I'd hit it with some 7 and do that first to get it ready for any additional work that you will do. From the looks of it, it should really turn out well!!!

Keep us posted!
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Thanks sizzle. It’s a dark grey metallic and I saw where mike was saying on metallic especially grey ones, you can only glaze and basically hope for the best?? So here is what I’m planning on doing and please anyone and everyone let me know your thoughts.....
1) waterless wash
2) clay bar
3) #7 glaze
4) use my griots garage da on it with maybe a one step?
5) thick coat of paste wax

Should this work on this paint? Thanks!!


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Congrats on the old Mustang. Reminds me of my old 89 5.0 LX (sadly I don't have this car anymore).



With that said, as I browse the adverts looking for old Fox Body's, the many I find are all cut-up, with huge air-damn hoods, and big drag racing tires, and roll cages, etc... Very few are sleek, stock cruising machines. Thus my opinion, since this is an awesome find you've stumbled upon, is to keep it stock. If you replace something (i.e. wheels, keep the stock ones...) That's just my personal preference. Like I said, when I do my searches, and see them turned into dragsters, or poor attempts to make them look like dragsters, I start thinking of $$$$ to make it back to stock. Given the age of the motor and looking fairly original, I wouldn't do turbo's, superchargers, or NOS. The strain would be to far great without having to make serious modifications to engine, body, suspension and transmission. There are plenty of S197's out there that can be modded. Ok, enough with my opinion... :)

Now, onto the vehicle... Great find!!! I'm envious. Secondly, you have single stage paint. No worries, SS paint is probably the most rewarding to restore... Mainly because you can restore it... Unlike clear-coat paint, once the cc is gone, there isn't much you can do, except repaint. But Single Stage will oxidize, look dull, but with hard-work, patients and determination, you can make it pop again.

Read Mike's article on how to restore single stage paint:
https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2009-to-2017-how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/25304-secret-removing-oxidation-restoring-show-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html

Lastly, if this isn't a daily driver (hoping it isn't...), will allow you take your time and tackle one small section at a time. Don't feel rushed, and don't try to do everything in one weekend...

Sounds like an awesome project! Wish I was closer, I'd help out! Please take good before & after photos! Good luck!
 
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Congrats on the old Mustang. Reminds me of my old 89 5.0 LX (sadly I don't have this car anymore).



With that said, as I browse the adverts looking for old Fox Body's, the many I find are all cut-up, with huge air-damn hoods, and big drag racing tires, and roll cages, etc... Very few are sleek, stock cruising machines. Thus my opinion, since this is an awesome find you've stumbled upon, is to keep it stock. If you replace something (i.e. wheels, keep the stock ones...) That's just my personal preference. Like I said, when I do my searches, and see them turned into dragsters, or poor attempts to make them look like dragsters, I start thinking of $$$$ to make it back to stock. Given the age of the motor and looking fairly original, I wouldn't do turbo's, superchargers, or NOS. The strain would be to far great without having to make serious modifications to engine, body, suspension and transmission. There are plenty of S197's out there that can be modded. Ok, enough with my opinion... :)

Now, onto the vehicle... Great find!!! I'm envious. Secondly, you have single stage paint. No worries, SS paint is probably the most rewarding to restore... Mainly because you can restore it... Unlike clear-coat paint, once the cc is gone, there isn't much you can do, except repaint. But Single Stage will oxidize, look dull, but with hard-work, patients and determination, you can make it pop again.

Read Mike's article on how to restore single stage paint:
https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2009-to-2017-how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/25304-secret-removing-oxidation-restoring-show-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html

Lastly, if this isn't a daily driver (hoping it isn't...), will allow you take your time and tackle one small section at a time. Don't feel rushed, and don't try to do everything in one weekend...

Sounds like an awesome project! Wish I was closer, I'd help out! Please take good before & after photos! Good luck!
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Thanks for all the info man. I feel ya on the not finding stock ones anymore. They are all cut up and modified now and most of them do not have the 5.0 in them anymore. I think this will become a cruiser/show car. I plan on taking plenty of pictures and keeping everyone here updated with my progress. Should take possession of it in two weeks. On top of all that, I would never feel comfortable buying one that is modified that much anyways. I looked at several of them and without knowing the history it made me too nervous. This one is seriously 95% and just needs a little bit of work to make it close to 99. Of course that is my opinion. I read his article on correcting single stage paint but in that article he specifically says that gray metallic colors are nearly impossible to get the oxidization out of. Is that everyone else’s experience also?


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Single stage metallic is difficult to correct because the metal flake isn’t under clear coat. The flake can get slightly burned, so you never want to wet sand, however, if your careful and use a DA and some polish, you should be fine. Always do a test spot in an inconspicuous place first.

This was was a 1948 Jeepster with single stage with metal flake that we polished at Auto Geek. (Photo by Mike Phillips).

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LSNAutoDetailing said:
Single stage metallic is difficult to correct because the metal flake isn’t under clear coat. The flake can get slightly burned, so you never want to wet sand, however, if your careful and use a DA and some polish, you should be fine. Always do a test spot in an inconspicuous place first.

This was was a 1948 Jeepster with single stage with metal flake that we polished at Auto Geek. (Photo by Mike Phillips).

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Thanks man. Now when you say “polish” would an AIO work like HD SPEED or would I need to do like a #7 over night soak, then some meguiars ultimate compound and then meguiars polish?? Thanks in advance and sorry for all the questions!
 
mattmann said:
Thanks man. Now when you say “polish” would an AIO work like HD SPEED or would I need to do like a #7 over night soak, then some meguiars ultimate compound and then meguiars polish?? Thanks in advance and sorry for all the questions!
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Hi Matt, read Mike’s article.
https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...w-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html

Yes, gorge the paint with #7, it’s dry and oxidized. #7 has oils that will gorge the paint.

Review these posts:

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/118211-newbie-single-stage-paint-restoration.html

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/119814-progress-1986-porsche-951-guards-red.html



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