Alternatives for D114?

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I'm looking for a spray detail that doesn't leave anything behind. Would be nice if it comes on concentrated formula.

3D has one called "Spray Detailer" but it is not sold on AG and it is not concentrated.
 
That is why I ordered a second/last gallon of D114. I'm no help. I've heard regular ONR is a good 114 substitute.
 
LEDetailing said:
That is why I ordered a second/last gallon of D114. I'm no help. I've heard regular ONR is a good 114 substitute.
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But will ONR leave something (polymers or lubricants) on the paint?
 
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash
is pretty daggone close to being a:
"chip-off-the-ol'-(D114)-block".


Bob
 
hdez said:
But will ONR leave something (polymers or lubricants) on the paint?
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It's very minute and it doesn't leave behind a lot of polymers. It's close to D114 and cleans just as good.
 
FUNX650 said:
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash
is pretty daggone close to being a:
"chip-off-the-ol'-(D114)-block".


Bob
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That would be perfect if it was concentrated formula. Unless I don't find something similar, I'll get this. Thanks
 
I remember reading someone was going to give McKee's Matte Finish Cleaner a shot.

I'm like you. I loved D114s cleaning abilities and the fact it didn't add anything on top of my LSP.
 
The problem with ONR is that it stains media like Microfiber towels...and typically I use the Rag Company towels...which aren't the cheapest towels, and so I want them to look unstained. I'm waiting for my Big Red Sponge to get here and give that a go, but I also hear the BRS doesn't clean the paint as well as the towels and there may be "missed spots" found when I go ahead and dry the car.
 
Kiddetailer said:
The problem with ONR is that it stains media like Microfiber towels...and typically I use the Rag Company towels...which aren't the cheapest towels, and so I want them to look unstained.
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I also dislike this. I use MF wash pads (including the Bone sold here) and one day I got some grease from a lower body panel on one (like suspension grease from somewhere). So I sprayed that spot with APC and rubbed it in before throwing in the washing machine. That spot came out like new while the rest of the pad remained that dingy black/gray. I'm going to fool around with a quick APC presoak next wash and see if that will be an easy way to remove the staining...I'm just afraid it will require to concentrated a mix of APC.
 
Just a thought. FWIW. Since Meguiars has dropped D114. Why couldn't someone/company buy the formula and produce it.?
 
MI Mike said:
Just a thought. FWIW. Since Meguiars has dropped D114. Why couldn't someone/company buy the formula and produce it.?
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You're assuming they'd sell it. I'm sure there's some secret sauce in there that they wouldn't want to sell as part of the formulation.
 
Fear not fellas, I'm working on something that will knock your socks off. ;)
 
Kiddetailer said:
The problem with ONR is that it stains media like Microfiber towels...and typically I use the Rag Company towels...which aren't the cheapest towels, and so I want them to look unstained. I'm waiting for my Big Red Sponge to get here and give that a go, but I also hear the BRS doesn't clean the paint as well as the towels and there may be "missed spots" found when I go ahead and dry the car.
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Get yourself some blue eagle edgeless. You won't notice the staining. Either way the staining won't hinder the performance of the towel.

I have not had any issues using the BRS with ONR. Cleans just as well as microfiber towels. I have not had issues with "misses spots". It won't remove hard caked on grime in one pass. Just like a towel it needs just a tad more pressure and another pass.
 
The Guz said:
Get yourself some blue eagle edgeless. You won't notice the staining. Either way the staining won't hinder the performance of the towel.

I have not had any issues using the BRS with ONR. Cleans just as well as microfiber towels. I have not had issues with "misses spots". It won't remove hard caked on grime in one pass. Just like a towel it needs just a tad more pressure and another pass.
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I do have eagle edge less 480gsm blue. Been using them with D114 with no problem. Afraid to try it with ONR. I also just bought a lot of Orange wizard towels 360 GSM, planning on using that for optimum car wax/d156 wipe and then use the eagle edge less for final buff. Reason being is using quick wax with eagle edge less 480, too much product is absorbed into the towel. I figured a 360 GSM thinner towel would be saturated quicker with the product so I don't have to spray the towel a lot with quiz wax. Also picked orange so I can see if i picked up dirt
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
Fear not fellas, I'm working on something that will knock your socks off. ;)
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Nick, pretty, pretty please make this new product have a minimum of a 1:32 dilution ratio. D114, to me, was so great because I used it at 1:128 and it performed marvelously for so many applications.

I know PBMG doesn't make a lot of "concentrates" available to consumers, but when one is detailing for money it's extremely important to use products that aid in making a profit. I use a lot of the Meguiar's professional line because almost everything is a concentrate and dilutes very well.
 
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