Adam, in a previous thread I thought you said it depends on the paint and that the Flex works better on some and the Griots on others. Have you changed your mind? No offense meant by my post.
Just curious
You're right, I have said that in the past and it does still apply, on soft clear-coats. On hard clears, my Griot's performs much better.
An absolutely no offense taken Cee.
Here, I will end the debate, I will put my rotary up against your Griots.Im the MAN
lol I'm starting to wonder if the Griot's actually CAN get the same correction level as a rotary with the Surbuf pads. I'm not a fan of the KB method with the Surbuf pads because the misted water just seems to get splattered everywhere, but using less than half of the product I normally use and getting twice the correction is awesome!
I had to buy another 5" backing plate for my Griot's. I also went ahead and ordered six 5.5" surbuf pads. :buffing:
WOOT!! Remember, just clean them with a rag if they get saturated with wet product only. Brush the micro-fingers after EVERY section. Seems like it would add time to the polish, but it actually reduces the time it takes to buff with them, at least IME.
I just feel i wasted money on my XP, should've gotten the GG. But the rotary (compounding) + XP (polishing) = Efficient & Effective! GG i assume is more well-rounded than the XP since it's more powerful. Only the XP is bullet-proof as most people say here.
To the OP, congrats on a very good decision for a DA.
You didn't waste your money with the PCXP, it's just very limited in how quickly it can correct, and that won't change no matter how good your technique is. Power is most definitely NOT the ultimate contributing factor in how well a detail comes out, it's technique, but power supplements technique by providing an extra shot of speed as well, making you more efficient. The PCXP is a great "starter" tool, and even great for some folks who do amazing work with them, I.E. Dark Horse, but there are exceptions to every rule.
I am so tired of hearing what machine blah, blah, blah. It's not nearly as much about the machine as it is about a persons technique, and ability to use the tool correctly. I think that all of the time wasted arguing about what machine is best would be better spent reinforcing correct methods of using the machines. Even the best, most powerful polisher in the world cannot correct or polish paint worth a darn if the person running the tool has poor technique. I would bet I can use my PCxp to correct and finish as well or better than most can with their Flex or GG.
Don't feel like you wasted money on your XP. The PCxp is a great tool and when used properly (like with any other tool) will do an excellent job of compounding. In some cases (using proper technique and skills) even better. (Sound familiar Dana? It should you preached it to me.)I could afford to buy all three (Flex, GG, and PCxp) if I wanted to, but have not seen a reason to change what I'm doing with the PCxp. (Granted I've never used a Flex or GG) but like I stated above I would be willing to bet I can correct and finish as well or better than most with their Flex or GG.
Here is a couple of links to the last couple of details I posted (used the PCxp for both)...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/24212-f-150-complete-turn-around.html
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/24502-1982-datsun-turn-around.html
You do great work mang. We all know that, but if you tried a Griot's, you'd probably think of your PCXP as a toy in comparison. I mean the difference in abilities is mind-blowing, just ask Jonathan. His PCXP on 6 is like my Griot's on 3-4. No joke. Anyway, I don't mind friendly competition between the two machines, I just don't like to read statements claiming the Flex is the best thing since sliced bread and no other DA can compete when I know that's not the truth. I'd absolutely LOVE to work with someone who does miracle turn-arounds with a Flex and who can do it in less time than I do with my Griot's. I'm all about learning.
OH, and Mike is right, I'm using a 5" backing plate, not a 4", sorry for the miscommunication.
Anyway, I made a video that I'm uploading soon to show what my Griot's can do in real time. It's a 10-minute video and I hope someone with a Flex can do the same thing on a car that's as bad as the one in my video. :dblthumb2:
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