Average hourly wages.

Your best bet is go to an a stablished detailor who would appreciate your hard work and pay you accordingly. The prices for the vehicles you mentioned can not really account for much more. My dad has dealt with used cars for over forty years and in the same price/profits as mentioned without any paint correction

Open your own business which you mentioned is a soon possibility

Or
You need to as try and prove the. Return on investment to your current boss. If he doesn't want to look at photos then this is probably a waste of your time.
You could start raise
 
You can try negotiating using his garage to do clients cars after hours instead of a raise. This would help the jump into entrepreneurship. Best of luck
 
jminrod said:
You can try negotiating using his garage to do clients cars after hours instead of a raise. This would help the jump into entrepreneurship. Best of luck
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Might try this depends what he wants for rent haha I know he'd have me do his work too if I left and did my own work too


Brad Merritt
 
Flash Gordon said:
Change your attitude or you will keep on making $10 an hour ;)
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Flash, this is one time I actually agree with you.

Brad, you took the job for $10 an hour. You are being paid an average wage for your area. You should get another job or start your own business if this wage is not good enought for your skills.

Man up and ask for the raise. You haven't even mentioned what you are asking for. Is it $11 an hour or $ 25 an hour?
 
Brad, if your boss isn't realizing the kind of results your are getting you should either try to explain to him the difference or walk away.

Also, if you have mastered the buffing wheel as you call it, why not post some pictures of the work you do. :postpics:
 
Doc does the best he can!!

There I go messing up my daily post average again!
 
A few hours ago I had a nice, legitimate, positive, substantive, response typed out but then I got interrupted and didn't post it... Then I come back to this.

All I can say is: wow. Just wow.
 
It doesnt matter what you call it so what I call it a buffing wheel that's what most people call it. All that matters is if you know how to use it. This forum is getting annoying real quick starting to just not post any more


Brad Merritt
 
I've read through this thread and there's nothing really wrong with it. Jim aka Dr. Olds made comment referring to Brad's reference to a rotary buffer as a buffing wheel and I doubt Jim meant any harm.​

The term "wheel" or "buffing wheel" is an old school term for a rotary buffer or rotary polisher.

Usually when I hear a guy describe a rotary buffer by calling it a wheel, or buffing wheel, or if he says he's going to "wheel a car", I normally expect to see someone in their 60's or older because it's normally old guys that use that term.​

Nothing wrong with the term but lots of old school guys that use a wheel also do seem to be the guys that think they can buff everything out swirl free using a wool pad on a rotary buffer. At least in all my years in this industry that is exactly what I've seen and I've met a lot of guys in my life that wheel cars...


The guys posting in this thread are good guys and they can be good friends too and offer great advice. The big pictures is you being a detailer actually have more in common with them than differences.

You can't always get the exact meaning a person is sharing via text on a forum like you could if were were all standing around in a garage shooting the bull. So before making judgments or making a hasty replies take everything with a grain of salt.

Give others the benefit of the doubt and if you have any doubts then simply push away from the keyboard and do something else.

My former Manager, peer and friend Mike Pennington always says,

Take the high road...

It's good advice and advice I practice myself...


Now lets get this thread back on topic and I'll start by saying that from what I've read it sounds like you're ready to either seek employment elsewhere or start your own detailing business.

If you decide to start your own business you'll find this forum a great resource because we have so many talented and experienced detailers that are always willing to help others to become successful.

So hang in there and take the high road...


:)
 
Very well said Mike!

Brad, relax man... Life is too short. Doc got a kick out of your mastering of the buffing wheel term.... Thats it. You could have laughed with him instead of calling him a hack which is ridiculous. Read back from the start and think about how you come off from the perspective of all that dont know you.

"A soft answer turns away wrath but harsh words stir up anger"
 
I agree with mike and corey.
Stick around the forum and you'll never regret it. Tons of great informations always pops up.everyday here, and guys are also great here.
I know many times in our life people feel pleasure to step on our heads and we try to shield ourself against it.... shields off man you don't need it here, specially with guys like Doc.
 
go out on your own then . try it dont think you will make as much as he gives you in a years time on your own after you buy all the stuff and insured and all it takes to do this fulol time. one buffer and some stuff isnt it. ps just stay where your at. 1/2 a yr and the kid thinks he shoud be rich from this lol
 
DaC said:
I agree with mike and corey.
Stick around the forum and you'll never regret it. Tons of great informations always pops up.everyday here, and guys are also great here.
I know many times in our life people feel pleasure to step on our heads and we try to shield ourself against it.... shields off man you don't need it here, specially with guys like Doc.
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That's why I joined to share my work and help others as well as learn I'm always open to new ideas and help! I'm sorry for getting angry I had a bad day yesterday I didn't mean a thing I said. Thanks hope you can understand


Brad Merritt
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
I've read through this thread and there's nothing really wrong with it. Jim aka Dr. Olds made comment referring to Brad's reference to a rotary buffer as a buffing wheel and I doubt Jim meant any harm.​

The term "wheel" or "buffing wheel" is an old school term for a rotary buffer or rotary polisher.

Usually when I hear a guy describe a rotary buffer by calling it a wheel, or buffing wheel, or if he says he's going to "wheel a car", I normally expect to see someone in their 60's or older because it's normally old guys that use that term.​

Nothing wrong with the term but lots of old school guys that use a wheel also do seem to be the guys that think they can buff everything out swirl free using a wool pad on a rotary buffer. At least in all my years in this industry that is exactly what I've seen and I've met a lot of guys in my life that wheel cars...


The guys posting in this thread are good guys and they can be good friends too and offer great advice. The big pictures is you being a detailer actually have more in common with them than differences.

You can't always get the exact meaning a person is sharing via text on a forum like you could if were were all standing around in a garage shooting the bull. So before making judgments or making a hasty replies take everything with a grain of salt.

Give others the benefit of the doubt and if you have any doubts then simply push away from the keyboard and do something else.

My former Manager, peer and friend Mike Pennington always says,

Take the high road...

It's good advice and advice I practice myself...


Now lets get this thread back on topic and I'll start by saying that from what I've read it sounds like you're ready to either seek employment elsewhere or start your own detailing business.

If you decide to start your own business you'll find this forum a great resource because we have so many talented and experienced detailers that are always willing to help others to become successful.

So hang in there and take the high road...


:)
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Thanks mike. Sorry for getting angry. I like this forum I enjoy getting to talk to others that understand detailing because i work by myself and nobody really understands detailing like you guys do. I'm hoping to open up shop. Which I had a few questions for you. What do I need to be legitimate in business and how good are my odds of success need some help thanks mike!


Brad Merritt
 
Bradmerritt said:
What do I need to be legitimate in business and how good are my odds of success need some help thanks mike!


Brad Merritt
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My very good friend Renny Doyle just introduced a brand new book called,

How to start a home-based car detailing business


I would keep the job you have right now and do the best work you can for your employer. While you have a job, get this book and read it from cover to cover and then after reading it you'll have a good idea if you're cut out to run your own business and if you decide this is something you can do you can start implementing Renny's recommendations.

One thing that both Renny and I teach and that's education. Educate yourself. Get knowledge from as many sources as you can.


:)
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
My very good friend Renny Doyle just introduced a brand new book called,

How to start a home-based car detailing business


I would keep the job you have right now and do the best work you can for your employer. While you have a job, get this book and read it from cover to cover and then after reading it you'll have a good idea if you're cut out to run your own business and if you decide this is something you can do you can start implementing Renny's recommendations.

One thing that both Renny and I teach and that's education. Educate yourself. Get knowledge from as many sources as you can.


:)
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My Dad always said 'knowledge is power'....I never liked many things he says lol but I always loved this!:props:
 
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