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JDGolden said:
The Blackfire iron remover works as well as every other I’ve tried. Gyeon, sonax, Adam’s, mckees, carpro etc.
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Yeah i was going to order a gallon of Iron X but with the last BF 40% off sale I decided to give this and there paint prep a try.

The IR works just as good as Iron X.


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If I had only one brand to choose from it would be Blackfire.
Although I have nothing bad to say about Meguiars.

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dlc95 said:
That is why I moved from both of those to Optimum Power Clean. It's pretty expensive, but It's also very effective. Nowhere near as "hot" as D101 or MultiX. Fumes aren't as intense either.

We use D101 and MultiX at work though. One of our techs burned plastic a few times with it.
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The Rude one is back!!!! Yesssssss!!!!
 
There is a lot of redundancy in this industry aimed at hooking us all. And it seems to be working.

"Try our latest Sio2 Seatbelt Cleaner!"
 
I'd vote Duragloss as the most complete, affordable brand. I have favorites from several different brands.
 
With all the hit and miss products that manufactures puts out..Car Pro has the best average. There are more products that I like than dislike.
 
Autobahnd said:
If Meguiar's made their Professional Detailer lineup a little more premium, they'd get the easy nod from me. There's affordable pricing, and then there's pricing that's so low that it makes you question what's wrong with the product.

Two Meguiar's products that fall into the "priced too low" category for me are D101 APC and D140 Wheel Brightener. My wholesale price for a gallon of D101 is $13. Compare that to CarPro Multi X, which is $74 for me. That's an insane discrepancy for two products with similar dilutions. It makes you immediately think - "why is a product like D101 priced so low?". Is it the product safety? I know D101 has a 3 NFPA Health Hazard rating, which is extremely high for a simple APC and is one reason I no longer buy it. Pricing gives off a very powerful message, and I think if Meguiar's replaced a few products with products at slightly higher price points, it'd do them a world of good for their brand image.

As far as CarPro, a giant red flag for me is the fact that their SDS sheets aren't readily available online. After peeling back the labels on some of their products to read the health hazard warnings, I think I understand why. Some pretty intense health hazard warnings
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I get the price angle, we all want a bargain but "you get what you pay for" is generally true as well

What I don't get with Meguiars and others like it are the layers of "classes" of products

I can see a professional line with larger containers but to me all the rest of the different levels are pointless and costs US money in the long run due to the need for 5 different labels and bottles for 5 different products that are essentially the same with changes in color or scent


Choices are good but sometimes it gets paralyzing trying to sort out 5 possible selection of a single product from the same company, much less the competition and their 3-4 different but similar choices


I know people want variety, some want a pure shampoo and some want shampoo with gloss; but, do we really need 3-4 levels of this dual product concept

Do "consumers" really want cheaper dumbed down products rather than a product that cleans or polishes or protects at a "professional" level?

I am probably wrong because so many companies approach their marketing strategy this way but it makes zero sense to me

Rant off, my sorry...
 
I prefer companies that make only a few products, but focus on making them great vs a company that just throws a million products into the market just for $. I respect Optimum in that regard. Problem I have with OPT is they don't make the greatest water beading products and I can't seem to find an LSP I like from them LOL.
 
NJNinja said:
I prefer companies that make only a few products, but focus on making them great vs a company that just throws a million products into the market just for $
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^^^^^This^^^^^

This is one reason I like OPT and 3D and I hope Mike keeps that minimalist philosophy in mind


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At this stage of trying different products I think my favorite brands are Gyeon and Meguiar's. Everything I've used from both brands works very well. The only product from Gyeon that was just OK was Bathe Essence. Other than that, Wet Coat is great, Prep is great, Instant Detailer is great.

For business purposes, Gyeon is probably not the most ideal. But I'm finding all of their products work at a high level.

Griot's is another good one. 3 in 1 is fantastic. My only small complaint with it is the beading isn't quite up there and it leaves the surface with a more oily/waxy feel likely due to the carnauba blended in. I found Griot's Car Wash (not brilliant) to be average.

I like Optimum, but I've struggled with their products. They likely take more time I'm willing to invest in to get the results I want. I found Opti-Seal to be ridiculously weak, Hyper-Seal is just a bit better than OS as reviews keep coming in, Opti-Clean is streaky compared to similar products. Their soap is good but I like Reset and Hyper-Wash better.

Two brands on my radar that are intriguing to me - Polish Angel and 3D.

My .02.
 
In terms of high quality and completeness... I'd say 3D takes the prize. Over the years, at least in forums, 3D is spoken of very well with far less issues or concerns compared to any other brand. Now mind you, I don't even use 3D products - never have. It just has this reputation that seems to cater to the masses, boutique or otherwise.
 
mwoolfso said:
In terms of high quality and completeness... I'd say 3D takes the prize. Over the years, at least in forums, 3D is spoken of very well with far less issues or concerns compared to any other brand. Now mind you, I don't even use 3D products - never have. It just has this reputation that seems to cater to the masses, boutique or otherwise.
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That's what I have heard as well. In time I'll likely try them. I'd like to try Bead It Up and their Waterless Wash.
 
mwoolfso said:
In terms of high quality and completeness... I'd say 3D takes the prize. Over the years, at least in forums, 3D is spoken of very well with far less issues or concerns compared to any other brand. Now mind you, I don't even use 3D products - never have. It just has this reputation that seems to cater to the masses, boutique or otherwise.
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3D products are definitely top-notch.

Speed is an amazing product, as is Towel Kleen. Just to name two that I use the most. :)
 
PaulMys said:
3D products are definitely top-notch.

Speed is an amazing product, as is Towel Kleen. Just to name two that I use the most. :)
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As is 3D degreasers, no harsh smell, and very effective cleaning. The one I am most familiar with is the Orange Citrus Degreaser 109. My wife keeps stealing it from me for cleaning certain things around the house, it works so good.
 
PaulMys said:
3D products are definitely top-notch.

Speed is an amazing product, as is Towel Kleen. Just to name two that I use the most. :)
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Their ACA compound is very good. 3D One is not bad.

Their coating is ok. Hope they tweak the formula to be more hydrophobic and have a better self cleaning effect.
 
If money no object I’d say Polish Angel. I just can’t bring myself to spend that kind of money on cleaning products.... LSP’s.... no problem


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Coatingsarecrack said:
If money no object I’d say Polish Angel. I just can’t bring myself to spend that kind of money on cleaning products.... LSP’s.... no problem


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Yeah, $20 for 7 tablespoons of car soap is out of my price range and sanity range as well

Any time the sprayer is bigger than the bottle of product I think things have gone a bit nutty

As good as this stuff may be it’s in the realm of bragging rights products in my opinion

To each his own


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For me, not one brand will ever be considered my favorite or the best. Many brands make high quality products but not every single product is a home run. Griots Garage, Meguiars Professional Line and 3D are my favorites.
 
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