Blackfire Crystal Coat Paint Coating questions

Yeah but the problem lies that a lot of us spent $100 or so on the blackfire coating with hopes of being able to use it on many many vehicles considering it was a 4 or 8 oz bottle and we might have gotten one car out of it or many of us no cars out of it. Sucks to have to buy another coating to replace what should have worked
 
It seems there is some issue with this product. Has anyone considered the product may not be stable in the bottle for very long? In other words, maybe all these people that got it on BOGO or discount received product that was getting close to "expiring"? Maybe it doesn't ship well, or gets "tacky" when exposed to either high or low shipping temps?


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i was looking at purchasing this. How well is everyone priming the applicator. Could the issues be from an under primed applicator?
 
The excess product from a highly primed applicator does not help the issue you can use a new applicator or a primed applicator or a soaked applicator the same issues of difficulty remain for most users. Don't get me wrong you can get it to work on some level but if you are to work with it side by side with any other coating or coatings it's not user friendly.


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i was looking at purchasing this. How well is everyone priming the applicator. Could the issues be from an under primed applicator?

I tried various method and applicators. I have also attempted in various temperatures and environments. Socal weather is very forgiving. Even then I experienced the same outcome of a tacky coating, which is damn near impossible to buff off.

And yeah it sucks, I purchased crystal coat with the confidence of the Blackfire name. With that being said, I still love all their other products and continue to purchase them, however, unless crystal coat gets reformulated, I would stay away from it.
 
It seems there is some issue with this product. Has anyone considered the product may not be stable in the bottle for very long? In other words, maybe all these people that got it on BOGO or discount received product that was getting close to "expiring"? Maybe it doesn't ship well, or gets "tacky" when exposed to either high or low shipping temps?

My first attempt at the product was last summer only a few months after it was brought to market, so I hope it wasn't expiring that quickly.

The shipment issues bring up a good point and I've also wondered if my bottle may have had a pin-hole leak in the seal. No product was leaking out, but I wonder if some air may have somehow reached the product and caused it to age prematurely.
 
I prepped a 2015 black Acura with BF wash, clay, M105 compound, Optimum Hyper Polish, IPA wipedown, then BF prep wipedown. I opened a brand new, sealed bottle of the crystal coat on a 70 degree, 50% humidity day. I used the foam applicator in the kit and applied the product very sparingly. I had watched all of the instructional videos and read the directions very carefully before applying to a 2 x 2 section. I tried using the microfiber towel in the kit anywhere from 1 minute, to 5 minues and it was like trying to buff off contact cement every time. I varied everything from a smaller application section, amount on the applicator, longer and shorter flash times, to different nap towels. Nothing improved the horrendous effort to buff it out. At the half-way mark I was exhaused and wanted to give up and stop EXCEPT that the depth and gloss of the product was just amazing. (And I purchased 2 bottles so did not want to lose my investment) So, I modified the application by cutting squares of a synthetic chamois and wrapping them around the applicator, putting 3 drops of mineral spirits and 3 to 5 drops of the CS. The product now spread like melted butter and I had anywhere from 5 to 8 minutes to buff it out. I misted a mf towel with 10% IPA and distilled water and buffed very softly. The second half of the car was now super easy to complete. I may not get 2 years durability with the modified application, but the car cured to a wet candy apple gloss that water will not stick to. If I only get 1 year, I and my customer will still be very happy. Without modifying the application, I would throw the product away due to difficulty. Using Mineral Sprits and the chamois and misting the buffing towel with IPA, I will now happily continue to use it. I will be doing 4 more cars this week, and will post about the longevity later.
 
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