Can you Believe this is a Hyundai

In that video I hope the cops don't pull him over for a LOUD exhaust

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2022 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study | J.D. Power
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The entire Hyundia/Kia/Genesis conglomerate takes up the top five. Interesting.

Strange to see traditional top ranking brands like Honda/Acura below average and a bottom dweller like Dodge scoring so high. Also odd to see Dodge so high, while the rest of the Stallantis (ugh!) brands still hold the bottom of the chart. I would think the parts commonality across those brands would keep that from happening. If something is unreliable on a Chrystler, Jeep, or Ram, you'd think that part would effect the Dodge cars using it too.
 
How did Dodge score so high

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Part of the issue is it is no longer solely about mechanical reliability anymore as infotainment issues now affect reliability. This somewhat makes sense due to how computerized cars are nowadays but software can sometimes be fixed while mechanical issues usually can’t.
 
That would explain why Honda and Acura are so low. As a new owner of a Acura product I can say their infotainment systems are like Toyota's....not great.

In the case of the Dodge vs the rest of their "family" would the infotainment systems be that different between brands? If figured what you found in a Dodge would be the same in a Chrystler, Jeep, or Ram.
 
I can see this neighborhood conversation taking place.

Neighbor #1: Check out my new zero-turn mower!
Neighbor #2: Hold my beer....
 
I wonder if they'd let you use that to parallel park during your license test.
 
gotta hand it to both hyundai and kia, they invested a lot of money early into the EV segment where as most other auto manufacturers hadn't. no doubt they will be leaders in the EV world and keep pushing the envelope...
 
Wanna see how far Hyundai has come in 2 decades...right here️A 2003 Elantra and my 2023 Elantra️️
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Ha! I remember those original Hyundai's. I had a college roommate who had one circa 1995 and that car was junk. The engine/transmission seemed to be OK, but the rest of the car was falling apart from new. I also got one as a rental car about that same time and remember not only how I was simply hoping it wouldn't die before I had to return it. The one specific memory from both cars is the defroster was useless. If you got any fogging in side the car, you better have towel handy because the defroster didn't actually move any air...despite all the fan noise.

Today, I'd certainly consider one once the whole theft problem dies down and insurance rates on them return to normal.
 
Desertnate said:
Ha! I remember those original Hyundai's. I had a college roommate who had one circa 1995 and that car was junk. The engine/transmission seemed to be OK, but the rest of the car was falling apart from new. I also got one as a rental car about that same time and remember not only how I was simply hoping it wouldn't die before I had to return it. The one specific memory from both cars is the defroster was useless. If you got any fogging in side the car, you better have towel handy because the defroster didn't actually move any air...despite all the fan noise.

Today, I'd certainly consider one once the whole theft problem dies down and insurance rates on them return to normal.
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Isn't the theft thing for ones that still use a key

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Klasse Act said:
Isn't the theft thing for ones that still use a key

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The theft problem is for those which still us a key, but the insurance companies often don't base their rates on the base trim of a model. They only look at the model across all trim packages when accessing risk and establishing rates. Because there are so many of them being stolen right now (and the theft rates are still climbing), they are charging exorbitant rates or simply not issuing new policies for those vehicles (i.e. if you buy a new/used one, they won't issue a policy for it).

Two personal examples from people we know. One bought a used Soul not long ago, and the insurance on that one vehicle is more than his other two cars combined. Another was looking at a recent, used, Santa Fe and their insurance wouldn't issue a policy on it at all. Both had push button starts and were not base models.
 
Hyundai N | N Day 2023 The all-new IONIQ 5 N World Premiere - YouTube

I know not everyone is a fan of the brand, whether it's the unknown, the rumors or that all important thing....badge

FWIW I'm not really a fan of EV's but that has more to do with HOW it's being forced down our throats, disregard of the lack of infrastructure, TRUE cost of owning them, HOW and WHERE the materials come from for their batteries and lastly but not least, the usual smugness of its owners

Yes the Porsche/Audi EV's (Taycan Turbo/S & RS e-TRON GT are incredible looking and have immense perf, but they're not a designated ride like this IONIC5 N or as I'm calling it...5N

Enjoy the video!

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wow, N version of an EV. some serious torque/hp here, this is going to be a rocket! btw, i'm partial to this type of hatchback, i like it...

it's great to see Albert Beirmann (ex-BMW M Chief Engineer) happy and enthusiastic which hasn't always been the case where he was before...
 
Klasse Act said:
I know not everyone is a fan of the brand, whether it's the unknown, the rumors or that all important thing....badge
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some will never change and always dwell on the past. yes, hyundai has had issues with internal combustion engines (ICE) and so have many other car manufacturers. my nephew has a 2014 elantra (over 200,000 miles) that has never seen anything other than oil changes, tires, brakes, and it still runs with no issues even though it's exterior/interior condition is rough (he never took care of it). i'm sure some have had the opposite so it comes down to personal experience. moving forward with EV's, the complaint about hyundai's ICE is no longer valid and i'm curious to hear people still blame it on the same thing. everyone has a choice like anything else on what brand they want to buy, but don't dismiss hyundai/kia now or in the future...

if any auto maufacturer hasn't invested into EV's (shame on them), they are going to be way behind easily a few years. electronics move at a very fast pace (look at mobile phones) and is constantly moving forward. as i mentioned before, hyundai/kia have invested a lot of money into EV's for quite some time now and are going to receive more recognition in the years to come. definitely a leader and not a follower moving forward...
 
Did a 412 mile round trip to see my oldest daughter on the westside of Michigan today. On the way there, 1 slow down due to an accident, we got 37.2 mpg doing 65-75 mph, not sure what we got coming back because I skipped getting gas because it was late.

Btw this isn't the computer doing the mileage, it was using the calculator, it doesn't lie. I liked the $4.55 a gallon for Shell V-power 93 octane too

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