Can you Believe this is a Hyundai

Saw my first I5N yesterday, a matte orange one, really stood out on the road

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Ridiculous
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Klasse Act said:
Ridiculous
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Yeah, I don't know what the "limited quantity" is that's coming to the US, but I guess this is to be expected, just like the dealers used to mark up the Indy pace-car replicas. That protection package isn't the worst I've seen, I remember seeing an Elantra or Sonata a dozen years ago with a $750 package that was just some tape pinstripes and the roll push-on door-edge molding.
 
My Hyundai dealer does have that orange I5N out front and it's plugged in ready to go

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Setec Astronomy said:
Yeah, I don't know what the "limited quantity" is that's coming to the US, but I guess this is to be expected, just like the dealers used to mark up the Indy pace-car replicas. That protection package isn't the worst I've seen, I remember seeing an Elantra or Sonata a dozen years ago with a $750 package that was just some tape pinstripes and the roll push-on door-edge molding.
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The package isn't the worst as a whole, but their itemized list is pretty laughable. $299 for nitrogen in the tires and green valve stem caps? Costco will do it for free when you buy tires from them. I also highly doubt the wheel locks are $299, even the grossly overpriced OEM ones sold at the dealer parts department

The sad part is this is becoming standard practice for any vehicle with customer demand. Even the mundane stuff. Walk in to any Toyota dealer and Tacoma's and Four Runners have been marked up for 4~5 years and probably won't let up anytime soon since the new generation is coming. BRZ's and GT86's are still seeing mark-ups (mostly in the western US) even though they're headed for their third model year. Kia Teluride; same, but I think that is starting to cool now. You want a Civic SI or Type R? Slim to no chance you'll find one at MSRP.
 
Desertnate said:
The package isn't the worst as a whole, but their itemized list is pretty laughable. $299 for nitrogen in the tires and green valve stem caps? Costco will do it for free when you buy tires from them. I also highly doubt the wheel locks are $299, even the grossly overpriced OEM ones sold at the dealer parts department
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I guess I skimmed over that, I didn't get that "nitro and caps" was what you note, I thought it was some other "mod con" that I was unfamiliar with. That and the wheel locks are pretty bad, as you say--I was giving them the benefit of the doubt for at least doing window tint, that takes some time.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I guess I skimmed over that, I didn't get that "nitro and caps" was what you note, I thought it was some other "mod con" that I was unfamiliar with. That and the wheel locks are pretty bad, as you say--I was giving them the benefit of the doubt for at least doing window tint, that takes some time.
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I don't know, IMO the $2K for maybe $200 worth of marginal add-ons kind of pales next to the $25K dealer markup.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I guess I skimmed over that, I didn't get that "nitro and caps" was what you note, I thought it was some other "mod con" that I was unfamiliar with. That and the wheel locks are pretty bad, as you say--I was giving them the benefit of the doubt for at least doing window tint, that takes some time.
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Same on the window tint. I haven't had a car tinted in a long time and don't know what the going rate is these days.

As for the door edge guards and cup protection, I found rolls of the stuff on Amazon for less than $20 each. Since I was curious, I looked up Hyundai OEM wheel locks too. Retail appears to be around $45 depending on the location.

Permaplate's web site says they offer both interior and exterior protection products. Sounds like the exterior is some sort of sealant or coating and the interior is a fabric/upholstery protectant. The usual stuff dealers try to pawn off on unsuspecting customers.
 
My tint job was $500 about 2 yrs ago.

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Karl_in_Chicago said:
I don't know, IMO the $2K for maybe $200 worth of marginal add-ons kind of pales next to the $25K dealer markup.
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Well, it's for an "N" model, which is in some very limited quantity now, and 641 HP.

Desertnate said:
The usual stuff dealers try to pawn off on unsuspecting customers.
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I think we're in agreement here, I had just given it a quick look initially and since there were a lot of things listed it didn't seem so egregious, but I guess it is...and as you say, the usual.

And all this stuff is why I hate the car buying process.
 
Desertnate said:
Same on the window tint. I haven't had a car tinted in a long time and don't know what the going rate is these days.

As for the door edge guards and cup protection, I found rolls of the stuff on Amazon for less than $20 each. Since I was curious, I looked up Hyundai OEM wheel locks too. Retail appears to be around $45 depending on the location.

Permaplate's web site says they offer both interior and exterior protection products. Sounds like the exterior is some sort of sealant or coating and the interior is a fabric/upholstery protectant. The usual stuff dealers try to pawn off on unsuspecting customers.
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I had Perma Plate on my 90 accord. It was my dad’s and he gave it to me in 91. He bought a lot of cars from the same salesman and ended up GM. When I got an accord in 94 he gave me some Perma Plate. Just a sealant.

Interior Just a normal fabric protectant like grechniq I1 fabric.


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That would be pretty interesting since the US EPA rates the range for the i5N at 221 miles, which is often a bit optimistic.

Overall though, if they didn't do those drag pulls all day long it might not be too bad. I have seen several people who will bring Model3 dual motors to our autocross vents. They'll drive upwards of 40~50 miles to get to the event, do upwards of 6 50-ish second runs in high heat conditions, and then drive them home before charging. I drove at a promotional event where they had a couple BMW i4's doing autocross runs all day long with only stops long enough to swap drivers. Those cars didn't get charged at all and there was no charging available at the venue. They may have trailered those cars off after the event, but they were happily cranking out one lap after another while people were there. That type of driving puts a dent in the range, but doesn't seem to hurt it as much as we'd expect.

I think the problem with the i5N is it's already at a range disadvantage due to the performance wizardry in the car so you'd probably feel it a lot more than you would in something for other automakers like Tesla, Lucid, or BMW.
 
With hybrid and electric cars if you're doing a lot of braking or even lift-off, you can recover a lot of energy, which is reflected in the EPA mileage usually being better for city vs. highway; that may explain some of what you're seeing at the track events.
 
First one I've seen inperson, $37K
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