Carrand Brush

I would only use that on a lease or farm equipment for the paint. The super plush mitts still scratch and cause swirls with just the slightest embedded or trapped contaminants. I have micro scratched (swirled)my paint by catching a dead bug guts that had sand in them from the road trip. The paint was pressure washed first but the mitt grabbed some dead bugs and the sap like guts with sand grains dried in it from the headlights upper grill and rubber around windshield. It took me three months to figure how it was happening. Just one grain of sand in the right place can cause havoc on paint.
 
I'm also a little OCD and do the jambs and windows thoroughly, too, after hitting it with the leaf blower.

You wash with a brush, but don’t dry with a towel... You da man.
 
You wash with a brush, but don’t dry with a towel... You da man.

???

Not a brush. This brush. No problems. Just asking if anyone else has any.


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???

Not a brush. This brush. No problems. Just asking if anyone else has any.


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I said you were da man.
Hey whatever works for you. You say your paint’s pristine right? I’m not knocking you. Just joking.
 
I said you were da man.
Hey whatever works for you. You say your paint’s pristine right? I’m not knocking you. Just joking.

I’m just seeking experiences with this brand of brush. It’s sold here and on Autopia which is a tacit endorsement. I’ve had mixed experiences with the lake country sponges but these brushes have been surprisingly gentle.


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I’m just seeking experiences with this brand of brush. It’s sold here and on Autopia which is a tacit endorsement. I’ve had mixed experiences with the lake country sponges but these brushes have been surprisingly gentle.


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So you don’t use wash mitts? Just the brush? What kind of soap do you use?
 
So you don’t use wash mitts? Just the brush? What kind of soap do you use?

I also use Lake Country sponges and MF towels to wash. I gave away all of my wash mitts. I don't like them for some reason. I use the brush on lower areas and for high areas difficult to reach. Like many older guys here my back is not what it was when I was in my 20s. I need all the help I can get to save my back. I use Optimum Car Wash, two bucket method with DI water generated from my 3-stage CR Spotless clone system. I live in a very hard water area (400+ ppm TDS) so the Spotless water is a necessity.

Contrary to your earlier characterization, I use the leaf blower to blow surface water off the paint, from the jambs, mirrors, gas door, license plates, wheels and grill area and then hit the paint with spray wax as a drying agent using MF towels. I don't have shade to do this so the leaf blower speeds up the process and makes the spray wax more concentrated when it serves to better lubricate the drying process.

I'm very flexible. I get a lot of ideas here and continuously change my methods if it improves my process. I have more products on the shelf that I can't possibly use, just like many people here. That part is a sickness, but a good sickness.

I know "brooms" have a bad reputation here for good reason. The Carrand ones sold here are obviously not your typical broom bought at Home Depot or Lowes. They probably wouldn't be sold here if they did harm to paint, assuming they are used properly with proper soap/shampoo.
 
I gave away all of my wash mitts. I don't like them for some reason.

I don’t like using wash mitts as intended either... I use them like wash pads as I’m frequently flipping them in order to use both sides and then tossing them in my 2nd bucket which is empty [except for my 1 and only grit guard]

I thought about buying a long brush to use on roofs of certain SUV’s that don’t know or care that much... I remedied that situation when I got a step platform.
 
I don’t like using wash mitts as intended either... I use them like wash pads as I’m frequently flipping them in order to use both sides and then tossing them in my 2nd bucket which is empty [except for my 1 and only grit guard]

I thought about buying a long brush to use on roofs of certain SUV’s that don’t know or care that much... I remedied that situation when I got a step platform.

Lowe’s had nice Werner aluminum step platforms on sale one year and I snapped up two. They fold away nice and are perfect for washing our SUV.

I was using the mitt like you were but found MF towels to be better, easier to wring out and all around easier to deal with.

The handle on the brush allows good reach across the roof without leaning and making contact with my body and also for the lower panels.

I wash and light detail three vehicles in sequence every Saturday morning so it is like a production operation. Good workout and keeps the paint in good shape. I go through a lot of spray wax, too.

I haven’t tried full waterless or rinseless yet. Still don’t trust my technique to avoid swirling the paint. I practice a little on the rear end of my daily driver where the dust and grime collects during the week but can’t bring myself to commit yet. It just seems weird.


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I haven’t tried full waterless or rinseless yet. Still don’t trust my technique to avoid swirling the paint. I practice a little on the rear end of my daily driver where the dust and grime collects during the week but can’t bring myself to commit yet. It just seems weird.

Rinseless feels more natural compared to normL washing. Waterless can feel risky and for good reason. You could try a hybrid style wash to get your feet wet.. Meaning you can do a full pre rinse with the hose, and from there do a Rinseless Wash instead of a normL bucket wash. It’s easier and faster + doesn’t feel risky at all unless the vehicle is completely trashed to begin with. Try it out someday on 1 of your vehicles when it’s not too dirty.
 
I meant to say rinseless feels more like normL washing not more natural than normL washing*
 
Rinseless feels more natural compared to normL washing. Waterless can feel risky and for good reason. You could try a hybrid style wash to get your feet wet.. Meaning you can do a full pre rinse with the hose, and from there do a Rinseless Wash instead of a normL bucket wash. It’s easier and faster + doesn’t feel risky at all unless the vehicle is completely trashed to begin with. Try it out someday on 1 of your vehicles when it’s not too dirty.

Thank you. I will try that. I get the concept. The cleaning and drying agent functions are combined under this scenario. The principal difference between Optimum Car Wash and ONR is that ONR can be wiped dry while the OCWash needs to be rinsed off thoroughly before the drying step. The pre-rinse will clean any surface dust and crud, making the washing step safer.


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I'll have to pick up a brush some day :( I rarely see the roof of my '96 Jeep (and don't pay her enough attention as it is - not a daily driver). And it will only get worse once I install a lift kit on it.
 
This brush was made more for wheel cleaning. IMO it's too stiff and may mar the more delicate wheels. I prefer the Mothers wheel brush.
 
This brush was made more for wheel cleaning. IMO it's too stiff and may mar the more delicate wheels. I prefer the Mothers wheel brush.

Can you provide a reference from where this statement is based? The description on AGO clearly states, "The bristles are completely safe and nonabrasive on the vehicle body and wheels."

Do you have one of these in hand and personally made the assessment that it is too stiff? I have one in hand right now and I just don't get that sort of tactile feedback from the bristles.
 
Can you provide a reference from where this statement is based? The description on AGO clearly states, "The bristles are completely safe and nonabrasive on the vehicle body and wheels."

Do you have one of these in hand and personally made the assessment that it is too stiff? I have one in hand right now and I just don't get that sort of tactile feedback from the bristles.

If I didn't have one I wouldn't have answered your question. Unless they changed the bristles, mine is about 5 years old, I would never use it on my soft black paint. If you believe everything that you read, go ahead and wash with it.
 
If I didn't have one I wouldn't have answered your question. Unless they changed the bristles, mine is about 5 years old, I would never use it on my soft black paint. If you believe everything that you read, go ahead and wash with it.

I usually take it on faith that something peddled here as described is reliable information, however, the reason for posting this query is because I was looking for anecdotal experiences with what Carrand calls their "Final Touch" line of brushes and pads which are considerably softer than previous iterations which did not have this brand moniker. In other words, I have a little doubt so I wanted to solicit experiences.
 
For the price, I'd buy it just to settle the debate once and for all on whether or not it mars.
 
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