CERAKOTE enters the Auto Ceramic Coating Market

There is a video with the Cerakote CEO with a detailer that answers questions as well.
 
I’ll have my video soon. I will just say this, the hydrophobic’s after the first wash is rather disappointing.
 
The Guz said:
I’ll have my video soon. I will just say this, the hydrophobic’s after the first wash is rather disappointing.
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Maybe contact Cerakote they are very contactable apparently and would want to know what is going on.
In the video I said in last post the detailer wasn't terribly happy with the coating and contacted Cerakote and they put it right. Now he seems happy with it.
 
If it was a glass coating then it would be great. If someone likes sheeting then this would be it.
 
The Guz said:
If it was a glass coating then it would be great. If someone likes sheeting then this would be it.
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That's what the detailer experienced (sheeting) until contacting Cerakote, he followed what they told him and he said the beading is back and performs.
 
Pan and I happened to release videos on the same day. What I want to make clear is that I never said it was a bad coating. This is my video on it. I am not saying to not buy it but go into this with low expectations. Based on the experiences of others it would not surprise me if Cerakote comes up with version 2 fast.

I have one more test to do and it is not a torture test..

It is interesting that we are all in different parts and yet having similar experiences.


Pan's video


Eddie's video:


Soc's video

 
Who’s got time to dabble with mediocre results that need to be propped up a certain way in order to achieve desired results? I’m sure there’s points earned for different reasons, but with so many other products and coatings these days how many people really want to have to do extra stuff just for it to work? Hard pass.

Btw everyone needs to start wearing PPE anytime you’re applying any coatings. If you’re not it could very well come back and screw you later. This stuff ain’t no joke. Be safe and live longer.
 
Gee, if you need PPE I'm going to continue to stick with sealants thank you very much
 
Bill D said:
Gee, if you need PPE I'm going to continue to stick with sealants thank you very much
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I tried to find a post from another forum by a fellow detailer who told me he had a successful life as a full time detailer for 30+ years and just recently “retired”.

He stressed to me more than once to take the proper precautions to protect yourself when you’re handling & breathing these chemicals day in and day out. He told me that he’s currently in the beginning stages of fighting cancer that was brought on from longterm exposure to the products he worked with.

The 1 question I regret not asking him is whether he worked in an enclosed garage or open air, but regardless his point still stands. There’s been times after applying wax/sealants and especially now that I’m trying coatings where they especially feel like they’re way too much to be all over your fingers for that amount of time.

Anything beyond car shampoo isn’t good to be having on your skin or breathing in. Most weekend warriors will be fine, but some of the ones who can be considered “prosumers” should take precautions, because everyone reacts differently and it’s better to be safe than sorry.

If it’s up to me personally, I would never apply a paint coating without some good nitrile gloves [not the cheapo ones] and a proper mask.
 
Eldorado2k said:
I tried to find a post from another forum by a fellow detailer who told me he had a successful life as a full time detailer for 30+ years and just recently “retired”.

He stressed to me more than once to take the proper precautions to protect yourself when you’re handling & breathing these chemicals day in and day out. He told me that he’s currently in the beginning stages of fighting cancer that was brought on from longterm exposure to the products he worked with.

The 1 question I regret not asking him is whether he worked in an enclosed garage or open air, but regardless his point still stands. There’s been times after applying wax/sealants and especially now that I’m trying coatings where they especially feel like they’re way too much to be all over your fingers for that amount of time.

Anything beyond car shampoo isn’t good to be having on your skin or breathing in. Most weekend warriors will be fine, but some of the ones who can be considered “prosumers” should take precautions, because everyone reacts differently and it’s better to be safe than sorry.

If it’s up to me personally, I would never apply a paint coating without some good nitrile gloves [not the cheapo ones] and a proper mask.
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What masks would you recommend?
 
PeteT19640 said:
What masks would you recommend?
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I’d recommend at minimum something like these. These protect from fiberglass, asbestos, airborne particles, etc.

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I used to work at a place where they had us working with large quantities of herbs & spices and they supplied us with masks like that. Wearing them you couldn’t smell anything. If you took them off you’d be coughing uncontrollably in front of a large tub of ordinary ground black pepper.

They strap around your head, not around your ears like the ordinary weak masks people walked around with during covid.

I don’t like the ones with the breathing disc on them. Smell gets through those.
 
Eldorado2k said:
I tried to find a post from another forum by a fellow detailer who told me he had a successful life as a full time detailer for 30+ years and just recently “retired”.

He stressed to me more than once to take the proper precautions to protect yourself when you’re handling & breathing these chemicals day in and day out. He told me that he’s currently in the beginning stages of fighting cancer that was brought on from longterm exposure to the products he worked with.

The 1 question I regret not asking him is whether he worked in an enclosed garage or open air, but regardless his point still stands. There’s been times after applying wax/sealants and especially now that I’m trying coatings where they especially feel like they’re way too much to be all over your fingers for that amount of time.

Anything beyond car shampoo isn’t good to be having on your skin or breathing in. Most weekend warriors will be fine, but some of the ones who can be considered “prosumers” should take precautions, because everyone reacts differently and it’s better to be safe than sorry.

If it’s up to me personally, I would never apply a paint coating without some good nitrile gloves [not the cheapo ones] and a proper mask.
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First ‘real’ job at 14 was in friend’s family car wash. They used Carbon Tetrachloride as tar remover & we all carried 16oz squeeze bottles all day. Bottle empty…wander over to the open trough of Carbon Tet and submerge bottle up to your elbow to refill.

Guessing modern-day OSHA would have an aneurysm seeing that setup


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Gentlemen in the -trades - who take their craft seriously or at least their health seriously do PPE up. Not in the realm of detailing but eon's ago, I had some guys lay out self leveling cement in prep for tile work. They donned full suits + masks.

I've grinder concrete with a surface grinder, etc with no PPE - full on concrete dust in the nostrils if not complete dust face. In that moment of seeming those guys -PPE- up, I realized I should have done the same for the crap I've done that involves even much higher levels of direct dust......Granted the frequency of exposure is not something daily.
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Ha, its similar to when you get a X Ray at the dentist...and you get the lead shield over you whole the technician runs -helluva- outta the room as the X ray is taken :laughing:
 
Eldorado2k said:
I’d recommend at minimum something like these. These protect from fiberglass, asbestos, airborne particles, etc.

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I used to work at a place where they had us working with large quantities of herbs & spices and they supplied us with masks like that. Wearing them you couldn’t smell anything. If you took them off you’d be coughing uncontrollably in front of a large tub of ordinary ground black pepper.

They strap around your head, not around your ears like the ordinary weak masks people walked around with during covid.

I don’t like the ones with the breathing disc on them. Smell gets through those.
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Thank you when applying I will get something like this.
 
This product has been taking a beating lately. It's getting trashed by a lot of reviews. Not a good start for Cerakote.
 
CleanIT said:
This product has been taking a beating lately. It's getting trashed by a lot of reviews. Not a good start for Cerakote.
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Yes it is......Mike G and others did a podcast today about it.......hard to pin down the issues....
 
Don't they make products for companies? (As they state) Figured their own product would be top notch out of the bunch. Thats too bad.
 
I'll always wear the gloves when doing the coatings, but I did it because I didn't like the stuff drying on my hands and leaving a hard crust on my hands that was really hard to get off. Never really gave skin absorbtion much thought.

The mask you showed is designed to filter our particulates like fine dusts and liquid mists, does it do anything against chemical vapors? I'd think you'd something with a charcoal filter like you'd find in a gas mask or respirator to protect from any vaporous hazards.

Silly Rabbit said:
Don't they make products for companies? (As they state) Figured their own product would be top notch out of the bunch. Thats too bad.
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They make a headlight coating and one that is included with the Griots headlight restoral kit. It's a good product, but it doesn't come anywhere close to being a "permanent" solution like they claim. It lasts more than a year which is far longer than anything else I've tried, but it isn't permanent. Water behavior doesn't look like a paint coating either, but that might be a unfair comparison.
 
Hard to believe a company with as much R&D into ceramics made a subpar product. Are automotive ceramics much different than the ceramics they already make?
 
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