Chemical guys

How is their new matte detailer? I've got some vinyl stripes and currently using M39/M40.
 
HateSwirls said:
Not sure why you're only getting a few days after applying the dressing.
I get two weeks out of one application , looks nice for the entire two weeks then it's time to clean and dress again.

Make sure the tires are super clean, sometimes you must clean them a couple of times to make sure nothing from the past is present.

Make sure the tires are completely dry, even though they look dry doesn't mean they are completely dry.

I put two light, even coats, I wait an hour before I apply the second coat, I want to make sure it absorbs the product fully.

The tips I just gave may seem like, Duh I know that but if you apply the dressing on a slightly dirty tire you won't get great results.
It's truly an amazing dressing not only for tires but also for the interior , I apply it to my dash to protect it from the sun, it's water based so you do get that oily feel to it:dblthumb2:

Oh, works wonders on my dress shoes too:dblthumb2:
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I really only clean my tire with car soap. That might be my problem. It looks good just put on, but I need to work on longevity.
 
Anyone know if chemical guys and HD or 3D are affiliated ...same towels same tags same squirt bottles brushesbetx etc etc. Curious about the products now
 
Maybe CG produces the products for HD/3D. They do private lines. I have 1 bottle of HD product, it is not similar to anything I have seen from CGs though. The bottle is an opaque black plastic.
 
inDetail said:
A lot of Geeks have major issues with CG. I don't know why.
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I know why. Because I lot of people on this site are very "detail" oriented. They are going to read every work of a product description. It only takes one or two bogus or BS statements to leave you with a bad taste in your mouth.

Take their new coating. In the video for it Greg makes a statement like "there is no product like this". Except, there are tons of products (coatings) out like it that pretty much do the same exact thing. In fact, CG is pretty late coming to the coating game.

Its statements like that just just turn people off that know what the scoop is.
 
IMO just using car soap won't clean the tire good enough to accept the dressing.
I use APC full strength to really remove any gunk that may be on the tires.

I too find it doesn't last if the tires aren't clean, reason is the dressing won't absorb into the rubber so it just flys off while driving.




Burns ST said:
I really only clean my tire with car soap. That might be my problem. It looks good just put on, but I need to work on longevity.
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I still feel the hate. CG runs the business the way they do. They never advertise on TV. They have grown almost by word of mouth. I'm sure they have some advertising and marketing program but it's not like the big guns out there. You have to be selling some products that work if you are growing almost by word of mouth.
They will private label for you. Heck some of us can be using some of the products and not even know it.
Meg's makes 3 different product lines. I'm willing to bet that some of the products are the same just in different bottles with a different product name on it.
The guy going to WalMart and buying a overpriced retail wheel cleaner is just paying for us to buy the "pro line" in bulk at a better price and helping to keep the R&D going by buying retail. If I was running the business I would be putting the same wheel cleaner in all 3 different bottles and selling it at different prices to different client base. It's only smart business.
CG has many cross over products. They are selling direct to public and other companies that are selling under private label. What if you company prefers this wheel cleaner over that one. CG wants to make sure they get that order for 5000 bottles of wheel cleaner from that company. If you are a reseller under private label you need to make sure you stand out from the competition. CG just decided to offer the same things to everyone they do business with. If it's 5000 units in custom cool bottles or 1 in there plain jane generic white label bottles. It's still a sale.
I always said I do like some Meg's products. Many of them are very good. I have some I love. We all just have our preferences.
All big companies do things to keep costs down and profit high. CG just decided to go about it in different ways.
I don't car who I buy from if the product gives me results, makes my clients happy and is cost effective for me I'm going to buy it.
In the end I should be able to polish a car with any polish out there and get great results if I want to consider myself a good detailer.
We all just take a different road to get there.
 
Some of their products are great, others ive not been happy with.

For example I love the blacklight and V7 combo, I also like the Nano 3n polish.

But the Butter Wet Wax and Hyper G6 coating leave a lot to desire. This is why I bought the 16oz bottles to try and will purchase the large bottles of the stuff I like!
 
I've been enjoying the: :poke: that's been going on in this thread.

Just reinforces my belief that:
Regardless of which faction of a discussion-topic, in which one finds themselves...
Polarization helps bring people of the AGO community closer.

:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Just reinforces my belief that:
Regardless of which faction of a discussion-topic, in which one finds themselves...
Polarization helps bring people of the AGO community closer.
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Bob--whatever you are drinking this morning--stop.
 
I think we all can name products by every single car care company...that aren't very good.

My concern is the trash talking about how the company is run, personnel, etc. That's where threads like this are on the fine line between informational and confrontational.
 
:iagree: totally with you!

If Turtle Wax was my preferred wax than I should be able to use it, It's not though:)

Just saying!



silverfox said:
I think we all can name products by every single car care company...that aren't very good.

My concern is the trash talking about how the company is run, personnel, etc. That's where threads like this are on the fine line between informational and confrontational.
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For a company to not be in the US but in different countries says a lot. People in Europe are using Chemical Guys. My first thought in general was that this was a franchise for auto detailing but who am I to speak. I liike their products and will keep using them until I no longer detail. Pick your products carefully. You don't need every single bottle they make. If you get a free bottle it usually means that its not very good. I have a couple of those. Usually just polishes which I use on customers that are wanting to sell their car to dealers. I give them a choice by product...this is good and this is really good, but the really good stuff is extra.

It's the same thing for every company. I'm sure Meguiars is the same way with all their OTC stuff at Walmart. It's not good. I bet you would get those bottles for free if you bought from them directly.

CGs have great products just as others. Just do your research and then buy. I'm in West Texas and it sucks that those who walk into their stores get to buy used products at discounted prices. On my next order I'm calling them and see if they can add used products to my package at a discount. Usually products used at their classes. And that's another thing. They have classes so people see first hand that it works. I dont think you can make fake swirls or scratches!!

-Angel
 
inDetail said:
I still feel the hate. CG runs the business the way they do. They never advertise on TV. They have grown almost by word of mouth. I'm sure they have some advertising and marketing program but it's not like the big guns out there. You have to be selling some products that work if you are growing almost by word of mouth.
They will private label for you. Heck some of us can be using some of the products and not even know it.

Meg's makes 3 different product lines. I'm willing to bet that some of the products are the same just in different bottles with a different product name on it.
The guy going to WalMart and buying a overpriced retail wheel cleaner is just paying for us to buy the "pro line" in bulk at a better price and helping to keep the R&D going by buying retail.
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Everybody is entitled to like what they like and not like what they don't like. However you make some comparisons that I don't think are accurate. CG doesn't need to advertise on TV, they advertise on their website and YouTube...which is a lot more effective for their target demographic than advertising on TV (and a lot cheaper, too). It's hardly by "word of mouth" more like "word of YouTube"...they have a viral marketing campaign which targets their demographic.

You also compare them to Meguiar's (sort of). CG is a tiny company in comparison to Meguiar's (even when you include CG's corporate parent/donor Warner Chemical Mfg. Co.), and that's even before Meguiar's was bought by 3M.

As was brought up earlier in this thread (or another thread), most auto product sales (heck, most product sales) is about marketing, image, perception, hype, mystique, etc., rather than the actual product. CG is very good at what they do in this regard.
 
Angel_r24 said:
If you're talking about the bug ratio, no not really. I have included a link to my YT video. I chose 15:1 as I thought 20 was to weak, maybe if you had light bugs. 10 will be to strong. At 15 and with some car soap, Mr Pink, it makes a perfect combination.

I use a blue soft no plush microfiber that is used on glasses. I'll spray, agitate, and rinse off. I buy spray bottles from.....Sallys Beauty Supply!!! Their bottles are 16 oz so it's perfect, 15:1.

Please ask away. I have done many cars and its perfect for windows as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y3IFXJPAeU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Hmm...worked pretty well. Do you remember how much Mr. Pink (exact measure) you put in the bottle?
 
Have to agree with Setec here. Even though there are a lot of products out there better than most of CGs, they still produce decent stuff that is better than most store bought stuff. Very few people besides true pros and die hard enthusiasts could tell the difference between their products and others in the field.

That being said... I only regularly use a couple of their products. For everything else I prefer optimum or megs.

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Setec Astronomy said:
Bob--whatever you are drinking this morning--stop.

^^^LOL...^^^
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Polarization parlays into obtaining closeness?
Perhaps I was stumbling a little bit this morning.
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Damn the "Closeness"?
Full speed Ahead?


Wait a minute... RE: informational vs. confrontational :props:

silverfox said:
I think we all can name products by every single car care company...that aren't very good.

My concern is the trash talking about how the company is run, personnel, etc.
That's where threads like this are on the fine line between informational and confrontational.
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I ponder:
-Shall I still allow the powerful-pull of polarization to profoundly prevail upon my personage?
-Is: "Closeness" just a coffee-klatch-cliché?



Bob
 
I mean how can one say they are too expensive... Gallon of "luber" is $14.99!
 
CDot said:
Hmm...worked pretty well. Do you remember how much Mr. Pink (exact measure) you put in the bottle?
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Just a simple squeeze Mr Pink. Maybe like less than a cap full. I think thats just up to your preference. I just added it because I didn't want to mess up the paint with pure APC. I travel a lot so I always have bugs and I don't get a chance to wash while out so at my ratio it's pretty good. Glad it worked out for you.
 
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