Clay bar problem- contamination or orange peel?

There was SO MUCH yellow overspray paint on the pickup that you could see the color transformation in the before and after pictures.


Paint Overspray Ghosting



Paint Overspray Ghosting
Here's the before pictures, if you look carefully you can see YELLOW GHOSTING outlining all the perimeters of the green body panels...


Before
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After
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Before
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After
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Machine sanding with 3M Trizact #5000 grit discs is an option but if you want to avoid sanding then take a look at the Nanoskin products.

Keep in mind, the more aggressive you are when rubbing anything over scratch-sensitive clearcoat paints the more likely the chance of marring the paint in the process and you should plan on at least one machine polishing step afterwards to remove any marring.



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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
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One of the things we go over in our 3-day detailing boot camp classes are the multiple ways to mechanically decontaminate paint.

  1. Detailing clay
  2. Nanoskin Autoscrub Wash Mitts
  3. Nanoskin Autoscrub Towels.
  4. Nanoskin Autoscrub Pads
I also explain that the MOST COMMON place to get overspray paint is at a body shop while your car is there for repairs.

Many shops don't cover and protect the areas of the car NOT being repainted or do a shoddy job of covering and protecting and air-borne overspray paint can and will get everywhere.

Besides your car, there are other cars being painted inside the paint booth and it's also possible for some painting to be done outside the paint booth like guide coats during the final body work steps.

Anytime you take a car in for paint work, whether it's the entire car or just a panel or two, you should inspect the car for overspray paint contamination.





Don't forget all the,

  • Glass
  • Trim
  • Plastic
  • Wheels
  • Tires
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Yeah, before taking over the detailing duties myself I always made it a point to have a pro detail the car after any body shop work. This particular time it was overlooked because we were purchasing a home.

I was leaning toward the Nanoskin but after seeing your video's And SA's input I thought the Trizact was a better solution because I figured that it would also remove some scratches/defects that I couldn't get out with the PC/M105 combo. Thus far it seems to have worked out great and appears to be just the right amount of correction needed to get the job done. I think anything beyond this would require a professional with a lot more experience.

When I taped off the trunk I did a comparison of the Trizact 5000/M105/M205 combo vs. the M105/M205 and it was noticeable. When I used the sun gun it was possible to make out subtle details in the reflection of the lamp itself that was quite impressive.
 
jbmeyer13 said:
I was leaning toward the Nanoskin but after seeing your video's And SA's input I thought the Trizact was a better solution because I figured that it would also remove some scratches/defects that I couldn't get out with the PC/M105 combo.
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That is the benefit to machine sanding with an uber safe product like 3M Trizact #5000

It removes defects without the heat and grinding associated with heavy compounding.


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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Hats off to you. That's pretty gutsy to machine sand to remove overspray.

At least #5000 grit 3M Trizact is very safe for sanding and removing the sanding marks is a cinch.
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Wow, I'm sorry Mike, once again I didn't notice this thread was in your sub-forum, I just hit the "New Posts" button, saw the thread and jumped in. Fortunately it seems to have worked out ok.
 
For the OP, it's been posted over on the Adams forum about members having issues with their new clay bars. I would pick up another clay bar as someone else posted on here or a clay alternative.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Wow, I'm sorry Mike, once again I didn't notice this thread was in your sub-forum, I just hit the "New Posts" button, saw the thread and jumped in. Fortunately it seems to have worked out ok.
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No worries ever....

The forum groups are open to anyone to post to and answer questions in.

I do my best to monitor this forum group with my name on it every day and answer questions when I can or if no one else has answered has already answered them.

We have such a strong forum with a lot of seasoned detailers that new threads with questions are for the most part always addressed in a timely manner.


It's all good....


Always find it interesting how people navigate the forum. I never click on "new posts". Instead I always click to the forum homepage and just read "recent threads".



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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
No worries ever....
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Well, thanks Mike, but for starters, people usually post in this forum because they want YOUR advice, and I certainly don't want to be giving advice in your subforum that you wouldn't give, not that I presume to be remotely qualified to do so...you've polished more cars than I'd even be able to daydream about doing.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Always find it interesting how people navigate the forum. I never click on "new posts". Instead I always click to the forum homepage and just read "recent threads".
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Oh, BTW, I think "recent threads" only gives you the threads within a certain recent time frame, while "new posts" gives you all the active threads since the last time you visited the forum.
 
The Guz said:
For the OP, it's been posted over on the Adams forum about members having issues with their new clay bars. I would pick up another clay bar as someone else posted on here or a clay alternative.
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Good to know, thanks. I wouldn't say that the Adams bar is useless as it did pick up road grime, brake dust, excess compound, etc. but it wouldn't make a dent in the overspray. I'd say it seems more like it should have been classified as a mild clay rather than medium. I picked it up a month ago from Phil at DD so I wonder if he knows about these issues.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Oh, BTW, I think "recent threads" only gives you the threads within a certain recent time frame, while "new posts" gives you all the active threads since the last time you visited the forum.
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I know how each option works I just prefer to check out recent threads or look through my recent posts for any that have follow-up replies.


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Mike,

What do you suggest for removing overspray from a 3M clear bra? I understand that clay bars can easily mar the surface so what other options exist?

I know that the PPF has been changed over the years and mine was applied in 2009.
 
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