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Today was the second time i’ve used mothers clay. First time it was in january and i thought it was a little too cold (65ish), clay was hard and left some holograms. But today, it was around 80 and clay was buttery soft, and it leaves a ton of holograms again!!! I’m very disappointed, never happened to me before with Meguiars clay. Anyone else faced this issue before?


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What kind/color of car do you have?

Could it be the residue from the clay lube you’re using?
 
FrankS said:
What kind/color of car do you have?

Could it be the residue from the clay lube you’re using?
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Frankly, both cars were grey metallic (honda and wv). Residue was my first thought as well, but then it failed to be buffed off. Light polish takes it off but still it’s kind of weird to see this happening


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Did you clay in straight lines or circular patterns?
 
I’ve never used Mothers clay but clay does have abrasives in it, some more than others.

Looks like it’s marring from the abrasives in the clay. Appears to be more abrasive than Meguiars.
 
Cell phone? Pics? You can use the Tapatalk app to post pics.
 
I never seen a situation when clay doesn't leave a mess to polish off
 
Clay is abrasive and can leave some micro marring on it own. If the panel is really dirty and you pickup dirt in your claybar then drag is across the paint, it will leave scratches. Again, if the panel is really contaminated, as your clay bar fills up with contaminants, your chances of marring the paint increases.

With all that being said, I have never noticed any visible marring on silver paint. Very hard hard to see defects on silver paint, so it has to be extensive to see it.

What technique are you using? How do you lubricate? What pressure are you using? When do you fold the clay? How do you wipe the panels after claying? And how do you clean the panels before claying?
 
Calendyr said:
Clay is abrasive and can leave some micro marring on it own. If the panel is really dirty and you pickup dirt in your claybar then drag is across the paint, it will leave scratches. Again, if the panel is really contaminated, as your clay bar fills up with contaminants, your chances of marring the paint increases.

With all that being said, I have never noticed any visible marring on silver paint. Very hard hard to see defects on silver paint, so it has to be extensive to see it.

What technique are you using? How do you lubricate? What pressure are you using? When do you fold the clay? How do you wipe the panels after claying? And how do you clean the panels before claying?
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Panel washed, ironx, tarx, washed again, diluted ONR used as a lubricant, light to no pressure gliding across the panel in straight lines. Done it before with megs clay multiple times with no issue.


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I’ve never used Mother’s Clay, but recently used Pinnacle’s Ultra Poly Clay with the Pinnacle Clay Lubricant on a new black Camaro. No problems with holograms or any marring.
 
•I’ve never seen holograms that are
a direct result from the claying process.

-Instead:
Holograms are a direct result from using
(some say misusing) a Rotary Polisher.


Just curious:
Has this vehicle recently been subjected
to (a victim of) “The Rotary Experience”?



Bob
 
mbkite said:
I never seen a situation when clay doesn't leave a mess to polish off
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Agreed. Harder paint may have less.

FUNX650 said:
•I’ve never seen holograms that are
a direct result from the claying process.

-Instead:
Holograms are a direct result from using
(some say misusing) a Rotary Polisher.


Just curious:
Has this vehicle recently been subjected
to (a victim of) “The Rotary Experience”?



Bob
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I think he may be confusing holograms with marring.
 
It could leave scratches, but as mentioned earlier in this thread holograms are a scratch pattern unique to rotary use. The car I'm working on had them. Do they look like this.

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Sorry for the small photo, used AG's software to upload it
 
I don't know the history if the car, but if claying left scratch patterns like this they were probably covered in glaze and you removed the glaze
 
DaveT435 said:
I don't know the history if the car, but if claying left scratch patterns like this they were probably covered in glaze and you removed the glaze
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First time i faced this issue was when i was working on my car, and the surface was clean (free of LSP) prior to me claying it and it really didn’t need any clay, It is really well maintained. This time around car i worked on probably hasn’t been waxed in it’s lifetime. Regardless if the initial condition damage induced was identical, and it was done with this particular clay. I have megs and sonus clay and they don’t do anything like that. Donno


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I had similar issue with Mothers clay..Left marring on my mazda paint which tend to be on softer side...Megs clay system no so much..But i was doing polishing anyways after so its all good...i only use clay if I am planning on doing correction after..I am going back to megs clay less marring..
 
I'd suggest trying again with our included/recommend lubricant, instead of what was used.

For more suggestions, call our tech support on Monday after 8:30 West Coast time, or email [email protected]
 
forrest@mothers said:
I'd suggest trying again with our included/recommend lubricant, instead of what was used.

For more suggestions, call our tech support on Monday after 8:30 West Coast time, or email [email protected]
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I haven’t mentioned it in my initial post but i’ve used included detailing spray first time around (whenever i saw clay leaving scratches) and it didn’t make any difference. I don’t think it has anything to do with lubricant. It’s the clay being extremely (unexpected) abrasive


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