Cleaner Wax

For just a quick reference, if you have an old Megs wax of some kind look at the back of the bottle.

It should have their preferred steps laid out.
Step 1 being a cleaner.
Step 2 being a polish.
Step 3 being a wax.


AIO has 1-3 in it while a cleaner wax has steps 1 & 3.
 
tfullercdi said:
For just a quick reference, if you have an old Megs wax of some kind look at the back of the bottle.

It should have their preferred steps laid out.
Step 1 being a cleaner.
Step 2 being a polish.
Step 3 being a wax.


AIO has 1-3 in it while a cleaner wax has steps 1 & 3.
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While a cleaner wax might not have polish in it (I'm not sure if this is always true), the "cleansers" along with the rotation of a polishing pad (orange, white, green, black, etc, whatever) will remove SOME swirls and clean up the paint. Any time you run a polishing pad or any pad with cut at all across the paint its going to remove some defects (minor ones maybe, but defects nonetheless.)
 
The dodo juice has mild abrasives with cleaning agents but megs cleaner/wax you find in the store, A12 doesn't use abrasives, just chemicals which is very light/color x is it's synthetic counterpart and in my mind would only remove surface contaminants and wax.

I guess what I gather is maybe a cleaner wax is an extremely light type AIO and increases in aggressiveness the heavier it gets.

I still think you would only want to use a strictly chemical cleaner on a car that needs little to no correction meaning stains and contamination.

I hope the new AIO category can clear this up in the future.

meguiars.com: FAQ -
 
One product not mentioned in this thread that seems to be pretty popular is Klasse AIO. Reading the product description I wondered how much correction it provides since it seems to be a wipe on wipe off and there isn't any mention of use with DA/rotary. Would this be a good product for tired paint?
 
Just for reference, here's a thread that goes into depth on Cleaner/Waxes or AIO's and compares and contrasts them to Finishing Waxes.

How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project


I think this touches on cleaner/waxes also...

The Lesson White Paint Teaches Us



And anytime you're working on a neglected finish with a cleaner/wax you want to use the product heavy or wet.

With a Finishing Wax you're trying to apply and work in a "thin" coating.

With a Cleaner/Wax you're trying to have an ample amount of product wet on the surface to ensure there are plenty of cleaning agents going to work for you cleaning the paint. This is true if working by hand or machine.


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I just did the car yesterday with Meg's Cleaner wax on an orange pad followed by NXT 2.0 on the crimson pad and it looks miles better than before. It shines, but there's still quite a few scratches. To be honest I don't plan on removing them. The paint seems fairly thin and in a few high spots can see where the paint has been lightly burnt through. Mike thanks for the tip on going a little heavier with the product. I was having a lot of trouble with it at first using just a little. Went a little heavier as well as used a bit more pad conditioner and it started working a lot better. All the oxidation on the car is gone and it doesn't look half bad.

I also wetsanded and polished the headlights and I can see SOO much better at night. It was seriously a night and day difference. The lenses were very yellow and fogged to the point you couldn't even see anything inside the headlight. It took quite a bit of work but they're nice and clear and the amount of light throw from before and after is incredible. Overall I'm happy with the result.

Thanks everyone! :xyxthumbs:
 
bag3lbit3s said:
I just did the car yesterday with Meg's Cleaner wax on an orange pad followed by NXT 2.0 on the crimson pad and it looks miles better than before. It shines, but there's still quite a few scratches. To be honest I don't plan on removing them. The paint seems fairly thin and in a few high spots can see where the paint has been lightly burnt through. Mike thanks for the tip on going a little heavier with the product. I was having a lot of trouble with it at first using just a little. Went a little heavier as well as used a bit more pad conditioner and it started working a lot better. All the oxidation on the car is gone and it doesn't look half bad.

I also wetsanded and polished the headlights and I can see SOO much better at night. It was seriously a night and day difference. The lenses were very yellow and fogged to the point you couldn't even see anything inside the headlight. It took quite a bit of work but they're nice and clear and the amount of light throw from before and after is incredible. Overall I'm happy with the result.

Thanks everyone! :xyxthumbs:
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Always great to hear another success story!

Another perfect example of Mike P's philosophy of K.I.S.S (Keep it simple stupid).

Some simple cleaner wax and an orange pad, gettin it done! Im the MAN
 
bag3lbit3s said:
I just did the car yesterday with Meg's Cleaner wax on an orange pad followed by NXT 2.0 on the crimson pad and it looks miles better than before. It shines, but there's still quite a few scratches. To be honest I don't plan on removing them. The paint seems fairly thin and in a few high spots can see where the paint has been lightly burnt through. Mike thanks for the tip on going a little heavier with the product. I was having a lot of trouble with it at first using just a little. Went a little heavier as well as used a bit more pad conditioner and it started working a lot better. All the oxidation on the car is gone and it doesn't look half bad.

I also wetsanded and polished the headlights and I can see SOO much better at night. It was seriously a night and day difference. The lenses were very yellow and fogged to the point you couldn't even see anything inside the headlight. It took quite a bit of work but they're nice and clear and the amount of light throw from before and after is incredible. Overall I'm happy with the result.

Thanks everyone! :xyxthumbs:
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