Collinite 915 oily holograms after wipe off

Yeah Im located in Australia, we're are going the scorch of summer :( I feel your pain RPM its been very hot and humid... for all I know my basement ambient temp could be around 30C but it feels cooler because outside its 40C ..

Update: after starting from a clean slate on the dark blue hood (after a IPA wipedown), working in a 2x2 ft area , and removing the wax residue after the greasy feeling turns into a tacky feel (if that makes sense) the wax didnt necessarily swipe clean with my finger it just felt a bit more resistance from the residue. No oily residue!!
 
james751993 said:
The temps were definitely 100F +
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Then this could possibly be the one reason of difficulty with removal.

Here in the southwest desert, most folks attend to their daily activities whether work related, or recreational such as jogging, biking, etc in the early morning hours.

Same with myself whenever working on the car, so temps are acceptable, and also better for a person to not work in such extreme heat, which in summer here is commonly 100-106F at the peak of day, and mid afternoon.

It could be that some products just will not "set up" properly.

Years ago, when I was playing around with some of the Zaino products, I too found they were difficult to easily fully remove without a lot of extra work, and it was due to temps and humidity (Humidity mostly) That when relative humidity was low, they set up better, and removed much easier, and quicker.
 
Boy, I really misread something early in this thread...I thought the OP had applied in COLD temps, not 100+ F, hence my advice for pulling it out in the sun to evaporate excess volatiles. I'm going to let you AZ guys handle this from now on...:o
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Boy, I really misread something early in this thread...I thought the OP had applied in COLD temps, not 100+ F, hence my advice for pulling it out in the sun to evaporate excess volatiles. I'm going to let you AZ guys handle this from now on...:o
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I think you're original comment about the wax "sweating" may have not been that far off. I've applied 845 to my black car and on a couple occasions had it "sweat" or get hazy/hologram-like after sitting out side in 90*F+ heat. I just chocked it up to applying the product too thick. Washing the car and then wiping the car down with a reputable QD eliminated the problem and it never returned.

Two other things came to mind with are not wax related.

- Oils from the UP. I use this product as well, and never realized how oily it is until I applied a coating to my wife's car after using it. Under a bright light, I could still see an oily residue after wiping off the polish, and it took more effort with a coating surface prep than I would have guessed.

- Could the holograms be a dealer installed option which you weren't able to polish out? Rather than the wax, they might have been there from the very beginning.
 
MarkD51 said:
I believe the OP mentioned he is in Australia, which right now is their summer. Of course go even further south, to McMurdo, and the South Pole, and summer temps there can reach -85F! LOL

Know a man who'd go there for two months (Nov-Dec) doing Astrophysical Research, called CARA with a team of scientists. C-130's would freeze up solid if shut off when delivering supplies. Batteries bursting like balloons, etc.
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DOH!!!! Just call me Homer, Homer Simpson!....LOL Maybe my New Year's resolution is to READ the OP entire post!.....LOL Happy New Year Bud!
 
Desertnate said:
I think you're original comment about the wax "sweating" may have not been that far off. I've applied 845 to my black car and on a couple occasions had it "sweat" or get hazy/hologram-like after sitting out side in 90*F+ heat. I just chocked it up to applying the product too thick. Washing the car and then wiping the car down with a reputable QD eliminated the problem and it never returned.

Two other things came to mind with are not wax related.

- Oils from the UP. I use this product as well, and never realized how oily it is until I applied a coating to my wife's car after using it. Under a bright light, I could still see an oily residue after wiping off the polish, and it took more effort with a coating surface prep than I would have guessed.
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I know there have been a lot of "sweating" discussions here or on Autopia (or both), although it usually seemed to be when using "beauty" waxes rather than Collinite, although 915 IS Collinite's beauty wax.

As far as the other oils...I was recently using my old bottle of UPP (not to be confused with UP), the pre-Polycharged version, which was like the slickest LSP ever....until the first wash. And because of the lighting, I was able to discern an oily residue on the surface, even after buff-off, and I realized that the super-slickness was because your finger was riding on a thin layer of silicone oil, that comes off with the first wash. Whether this was on purpose to give that post-application slickness, or just a byproduct of the sealant ingredients, I don't know...and of course the current product may not do that.
 
I've been applying 915 in 15 degrees through to 35 degrees celcius without issues. I do apply it very thin with a slightly moist foam applicator and that works faultlessly.
 
Zubair said:
I've been applying 915 in 15 degrees through to 35 degrees celcius without issues. I do apply it very thin with a slightly moist foam applicator and that works faultlessly.
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To add, and in regards to a wax like Collinite #845 Insulator Wax, I got a PM from another forum member this morning, asking if I, or perhaps "we" also commonly use a dampened applicator when using #845?

I've found with #845 that I never felt a need to resort to such, but would suspect as well that there would be no harm, no foul to doing so.

That I would only always dampen with their Pastes, in that it seems to aid spreadablity, and thinness of coat.
 
MarkD51 said:
That I would only always dampen with their Pastes, in that it seems to aid spreadablity, and thinness of coat.
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Although back 100 years ago I never thought about it, in recent (forum) years it has occurred to me that the reason for dampening the pad is simply to reduce the saturation of the pad by the wax, whether that is for the purposes of applying a thin coat...I guess. But waxes seem to have had this suggestion in the instructions all the way back to when I first waxed a car...er..I mean horse and buggy.
 
In the military when you shine boots, you use a cold water soaked rag to apply the polish specifically because you don't want too much polish to stick more to the rag than the leather so I imagine that's what it's for. Only other reason is to maybe cool the paint down a little.
 
WillSports3 said:
In the military when you shine boots, you use a cold water soaked rag to apply the polish specifically because you don't want too much polish to stick more to the rag than the leather so I imagine that's what it's for. Only other reason is to maybe cool the paint down a little.
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Yep, I can recall seeing it done with Cotton Balls-Water. The old spit shine, the toes would look like mirrors! :-)
 
Ya I've used cotton balls in water or polishing rags in water, they both work well. Cotton ball is just much kinder to your finger joints.
 
MarkD51 said:
To add, and in regards to a wax like Collinite #845 Insulator Wax, I got a PM from another forum member this morning, asking if I, or perhaps "we" also commonly use a dampened applicator when using #845?

I've found with #845 that I never felt a need to resort to such, but would suspect as well that there would be no harm, no foul to doing so.

That I would only always dampen with their Pastes, in that it seems to aid spreadablity, and thinness of coat.
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845 is very oily as it is, I wouldn't recommend a damp pad, sounds like you have Collinites down to a T.
 
Zubair said:
845 is very oily as it is, I wouldn't recommend a damp pad, sounds like you have Collinites down to a T.
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My initial sole bad habit with #845 years back, would be wrongly thinking I need to apply a bunch to each panel, then spread-distribute, and what I would wind up with after 2-3 panels would be an applicator so saturated and soaked with the product, that what I could squeeze out could practically do the other 1/2 the vehicle with! LOL

As you #845 fans know, a little goes a long way.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I know there have been a lot of "sweating" discussions here or on Autopia (or both), although it usually seemed to be when using "beauty" waxes rather than Collinite, although 915 IS Collinite's beauty wax.

As far as the other oils...I was recently using my old bottle of UPP (not to be confused with UP), the pre-Polycharged version, which was like the slickest LSP ever....until the first wash. And because of the lighting, I was able to discern an oily residue on the surface, even after buff-off, and I realized that the super-slickness was because your finger was riding on a thin layer of silicone oil, that comes off with the first wash. Whether this was on purpose to give that post-application slickness, or just a byproduct of the sealant ingredients, I don't know...and of course the current product may not do that.
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I havent had sweating (cloudy haze a day or so after the original wipe off) issues with collinite waxes ( I have all three). But with beauty waxes, especially swissvax concorso, Ive had sweating issues on very hot days where temps have gone over 30C. I understand that black paint can heat up to 4 times the air temperature in full sun :(
 
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