Billy Baldone
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Mike asked for the link to the Costco detailing forum... I would like the link to the "Dinkinking Costco Kirkland French Vodka while detailing" forum please. That is the one I really need
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Route246
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It is a standard redirect warning that you are leaving your secure TLS/SSL (i.e. http://) connection for another connection. The fine print on the black bar is what is logged.
Autogeekonline Auto Detailing Forum is the URL for the forums
https://www.autogeek.net is the URL for the online store
If you click on the two links above you do not get the warning when you click on the top one because you're not establishing a new connection. You do get the warning because your current secure connection. I believe this is a vbulletin option that was recently enabled. It is safe to ignore the warning.
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i've been saying this for many years, really thick towels are limited to what they can do (not very versatile) and will have a tendency to lint more often too. i've spent a lot of money (and wasted) over many years on all kinds of microfiber towels and it's best to just keep it simple. also, thicker towels lose bite and tend to take more passes to remove product as well, think like a mop...
Finick
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This is pretty much what I've been experiencing. I think some of my creature towels have been washed a few times now and they still tend to lint and just not be very nice to use at all. I may just demote them to being dedicated rinseless wash towels, but even for that purpose I don't really enjoy them that much.
300-350gsm just seems to be that sweet spot where the towel won't bunch up on itself when you try to buff it across the paint, removes product smoothly and evenly, is a nice medium to apply a QD spray or spray wax/sealant and not to mention it doesn't take up nearly as much room as some of them fluffmonster towels when in storage!
I will give the creature towel credit because when it's damp and wrung out, it does soak up a nice amount of water on the initial pass before I hit the panel with my waffle weave towel. But I never had any issues using a less dense towel to do that same job, aside from more wringing out the towel.
Exactly correct.
There's no way some 80/20 350gsm Costco towel Is better then a 70/30 edgeless 420 Im sorry its just not possible you are lying to yourself.
I see it to when I click on some links?
I haven't been told anything by anyone internally. I can take a guess and guess that it has something to do with updating security.
I would also guess it's not a problem if you trust the site you're clicking to... just a guess.... click at your own risk.
I use TinyUrl.com a LOT on this forum to create links because the links to pages on this forum are so L-O-N-G
I also send a LOT of links via e-mail and I know from experience that when I send a LONG link that some devices break-up the link and the result is when the person I send a long link to clicks on it - of course it doesn't work.
So as a work-around I run all our super long links through TinyUrl and then embed the short link as well as send out the short link via e-mails and messages on devices.
I try not to do a lot of hating in my life but one thing for sure... I HATE doing things twice.
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I've been getting it when I'm on the Forum page and then click the link to go to the store instead of taking me to the store it shows that
Me too that's all I've been getting it on. Links to the store
Obviously different gsm towels are for different purposes of course there is no gsm towel that is the best for every application. For example I use those 420 towels strictly for waterless washing. If you guys are trying to get 1 towel to do everything then that's your problem right there. I use my 365's for wax/polish removal. I wouldn't try to compare the 2 they are for different purposes. The high gsms are for finial buffing/rinseless washing.
I have a lot of very good microfiber towels in my collection. They were all purchased from Autogeek and they are the only towels that touch the paint on my cars. But recently I was in Costco and could not pass up buying the package of 36 yellow Kirkland towels for about fifty cents a piece. They will never replace my good towels and they will never be used on my paint. But I've learned there are just some tasks that can't be avoided, and they are going to destroy towels or soil them so badly that they cannot be reused. The Kirklands are absolutely perfect for that.
I use them for my cars, in my wood shop, and my wife uses them for jobs around the house. The ones that can be reused get thrown in a pile until there are enough to run them through the washing machine. So, do yourself a favor, buy a pack of these. They are pretty decent, and it won't break your heart, or wallet, if you destroy some.
I use them for my cars, in my wood shop, and my wife uses them for jobs around the house. The ones that can be reused get thrown in a pile until there are enough to run them through the washing machine. So, do yourself a favor, buy a pack of these. They are pretty decent, and it won't break your heart, or wallet, if you destroy some.
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So you’re telling me that, even though these towels can be used for every purpose that I want them to be used for, without inflicting marring on my paint, I should buy more expensive towels.. just because?
If you want to justify the premium price, sure. But if all I have to go on is the manufacturers word that they source the finest microfiber and that their towels are the bees knees, I think I’ll pass.
I’m holding a creature towel and a Kirkland towel at this very moment. One is denser and edgeless, and that’s the only difference I feel. If you can’t give me an objective reason why one is better than the other, you’re statements are just as much conjecture as mine are.
No matter how much people hype up these towels, I’m just not impressed.
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You do understand that some factory’s call the towels 80/20 and some 70/30. The MF yarn is 70/30 to start with then goes through aka woven through the 100% polyester backing at this point it’s closer to 80/20 just depends who labels it
I wouldn’t put much weight on the 70/30 vs 80/20
It’s about the right towel for the right guy. You see some posts that claim the eagle edgeless is the best towel in creation then randomly find ones that people don’t really care for them and don’t understand what they would be even for
Everyone knows PFMs are the best any ways lol
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I wouldn’t put much weight on the 70/30 vs 80/20
It’s about the right towel for the right guy. You see some posts that claim the eagle edgeless is the best towel in creation then randomly find ones that people don’t really care for them and don’t understand what they would be even for
Everyone knows PFMs are the best any ways lol
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Route246
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This statement seems to me to border on enthusiasm beyond objectivity using absolutes like "no way" and "just not possible" when comparing 80/20 and 70/30 (for having faith that those metrics are somehow meaningful in context). I'm not even sure what those metrics mean and how they are accurately measured, let alone show any relevance to this discussion about something so subjective as MF towels. Everyone should be entitled to voicing an opinion and a preference here. As someone who uses Costco MF exclusively, why should I be belittled for making a personal preference and personal choice? It is my money, it is my paint and it is my decision. If you have personal experience of a product doing material harm to your paint or you have documented proof that a product is somehow harmful or injurious then please get the word out here. We are all ears.
I exclusively use Costco towels. I have many MF from here and other sources, many were quite expensive. I use Costco towels not because I'm cheap but because they are uniform and I know what to expect, they never lint, they never mar or scratch my paint and they are returnable if I'm not 100% satisfied. If I were cheap I don't think I would have bought Fuzion because any wax having a retail price of US$200 borders on embarrassing and I never would admit that to anyone who is not in the detailer world that I have Fuzion wax. Any detailing product can be compared and criticized by a competitive product. We should all be very thankful that the industry is so competitive because competition makes all products better.
You do understand that some factory’s call the towels 80/20 and some 70/30. The MF yarn is 70/30 to start with then goes through aka woven through the 100% polyester backing at this point it’s closer to 80/20 just depends who labels it
I wouldn’t put much weight on the 70/30 vs 80/20
It’s about the right towel for the right guy. You see some posts that claim the eagle edgeless is the best towel in creation then randomly find ones that people don’t really care for them and don’t understand what they would be even for
Everyone knows PFMs are the best any ways lol
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I'm not sure what the value of an edgeless towel is? If you're using a towel correctly the edge should not come in abrasive contact with your paint. The pressure points from your hands should always be away from the seams on the edge and if they are not then your technique may need some adjustment. It just seems like a marketing gimmick to me.
WillSports3
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I use TRCs Minx yellow towels for my rinseless washes and what not. They're super fluffy and great for rinseless washes to pick everything up, plus they hold a lot of liquid. The other great use for them is when I'm drying and I intend to use a drying aid so a slightly damp one will pick up tons of water. Of course for everything else, I use Canadian Tire towels. They're kinda like the Canadian version of autozone. I'm not paying 10 dollars for a 16x16 towel, there's no way. I'm not a Swissvax Detailer or Paul Dalton where I'm using 90 dollar claybars and what not. The value of an edgeless towel is where every inch of the towel will trap dirt and debris, versus the edges where if you get an edge caught on something, who knows what could happen on your paint when you brush it across.
I think that the nap and how they split the mf material is more important what they are best of useing with which kind of work. And if you find a mf towel that don't scratch or marring your paint when doing different kind of work then they are good. I think about how good they are at trap the dirt or residue you are takeing off the paint. Or the ability to hold the water you are soaking up.
Finick
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That bolded part is something I always have in the back of my mind. As much as I like the forensics detailing channel, his hesitation to use the kirkland towels seems misplaced. Has anyone watched him buff a panel when he uses them? I think near any towel would induce some type of damage when you're sitting there bearing down on the paint with it, buffing aggressively. But that's not really how I think most people (could be totally wrong) use towels. Using the technique Mike Phillips (thank you, sir) calls breaking open the wax, I can't say I've ever needed more than a light hand to remove even some oily finishing polishes.
How to break open a coating of wax and remove it by creeping out...
I agree. I'd buy a similar offering from here without hesitation if it existed, seeing as I buy about everything else from here. I enjoy supporting AG. It's such an active forum, full of knowledge and good personalities. I'm also willing to spend the premium price for things that just flat out work. Polishers, compounds, waxes, I'm willing to see the value in a purchase instead of the initial shock of the sticker price, even with a consumable like towels.
While I do agree, I honestly wonder why all towels aren't edgeless? If the microfiber is weaved in with the backing, wouldn't sewing around the edge add an extra step? If that's the case adding a silk, microfiber, or any kind of border seems like it would make the towel cost more to manufacture instead of just weaving it and slicing them into the appropriate size, leaving them edgeless. I'm sure there's a logistical reason for this, seeing as I don't manufacture microfiber towels, but it is something I wonder about. I guess keeping in line with marketing gimmicks, it would allow companies to charge a premium for something "new"
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Exactly, IF they did carry them or something similar for close to the same price I’d buy them from AG instead.
But they don’t!
I bought a 12 pack of Gold Plush Jrs on sale during a sale with a discounted gift certificate and still I hardly ever use them because I’m afraid of getting them dirty.
They used to have these towels that were a little more reasonably priced but still not nearly as good.
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With respect to the Forensic Detailing channel, I had a similar reaction. I really enjoy that channel because he goes deep into the chemistry and technical aspects of detailing products but I think he laid an egg with respect to the MF and I was a little surprised to watch his buffing technique.
I have some virgin, unwashed, unused Costco MF towels that I have around to give to people who either haven't tried them or who want to try them. I'll be happy to send a few of these to anyone who is willing to test them and provide photos here showing marring caused by these towels compared to a lack of marring caused by any other towel or towels. I don't doubt anyone's sincerity about this but without photos comparing one towel to another on the same paint under the same conditions is just mindless prattle that doesn't prove anything.
I'm happy using the Kirkland yellow MF towels, never failed me. Best part is the price... they're cheap enough to just throw out if they get badly soiled. One pack has lasted me two seasons of cleaning so far. Granted i have RC and CG towels in the arsenal as well. But they're still my go to towel over all.
I personally won't use Chinese made towels. I have read that they do not have truth in labeling. Their labels may say 70/30 but it is probably 85/15. I have read that their factories are not clean and that the fabric can be contaminated. I only use Korea made towels.
Which is not hard to believe, considering the Chinese dog food, dog treats and baby formula contamination scandals.
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Melamine Pet Food Recall of 2007
China Petco Pet Food Scandal Is Just the Tip of a Toxic Iceberg | Time
China Has a History of Selling Dangerous Products to U.S. Consumers - TheStreet
Which is not hard to believe, considering the Chinese dog food, dog treats and baby formula contamination scandals.
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Melamine Pet Food Recall of 2007
China Petco Pet Food Scandal Is Just the Tip of a Toxic Iceberg | Time
China Has a History of Selling Dangerous Products to U.S. Consumers - TheStreet
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