Different Twist On Pre Soak

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In December-March will many times switch from rinseless washing to traditional two bucket wash. This time period is when our cars get much dirtier. In an effort to keep things simple was wondering about the following.Using a pump sprayer to do a pre soak with the same wash soap that's in my wash bucket. At present the wash soap I have is the Turtle Wax Slick n Slide.

I have a pressure washer but don't really want to drag it out for a wash. I typically just use a garden hose when doing a traditional wash. Also not really interested in obtaining any of the standard pre wash treatments such as Bilt Hamber, etc or getting into snow foaming.. Just trying to get a descent non marring winter wash.

Maybe my thinking is wrong but any cleaning done by snow foaming has more to do with the wash soap instead of the foam. Have never really heard of anyone pre soaking via the method descibed above. I realize rinsing with a pressure washer would most likely do a better job but again trying to keep things simple.

So do you think this would be a waste of time and soap? If you did do this would you soak the vehicle down with the wash soap from the pump sprayer, allow that to dwell and then rinse with a hose before contact wash or would you rinse with the hose first, then apply the wash soap via the pump sprayer and go directly into the contact wash with a bucket of wash soap and a wash mitt?
 
Well that makes sense but I have pretty poor water pressure at my place. Dont think a foam gun would do very well on my hose with the low pressure. Think if I used any kind of foamer it would have to be a cannon on my pressure washer.
 
What type of protection is on your vehicle?

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I don't think the foam gun needs a lot of pressure, but I have very good water pressure at my house, so I'm not in a good position to answer that.
 
opie said:
What type of protection is on your vehicle?

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Turtle wax Seal and shine, Optimum Car Wax, then I typically wash once a week give or take a few days and drying aid has Optimum Car wax in it so it gets a little at every wash.
 
Figured out at least one aspect of this. After thinking about it for a bit I surmised that any attempt at pre soaking should be done on a dry surface. If one rinses prior to pre soaking then the wet surface would allow the pre soak to slide off. Especially on vertical surfaces.

Trying to wrap my head around how foaming would be an advantage.I guess the foam being dryer and lighter than just car wash soap sprayed on would allow it to stay in place longer, therefore working longer to break down contaminants. Is my reasoning on this correct?

So IF foam actually works better than breaking down crap on the paint what about the feasibility of using a foaming pump sprayer? My reason for asking is going back to keeping things simple. Getting out a pressure washer would involve more time and expense. I would need/want a 50 foot flexible hose on the pressure washer, a nice compact wand and of course a foam cannon. All these need dragged out and put away afterwards.
 
Where are you located? This is the other version of the Gilmour gun: Amazon.com

Since you will have your hose out anyway, you can try this and return it if it doesn't work to your satisfaction.
 
If you used some type of coating i would have suggested using a high alkaline soap as a presoak in a non foaming pump sprayer. Thats what i do sometimes. I like using labocosmetica primus 2.0.

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I'm in Pennsylvania. I actually got the very nice hose nozzle listed below a little earlier this year after watching some videos on it by a couple detailers.Probably the finest hose nozzle on the planet. I had to return it because my water pressure wasn't sufficient to allow it to perform to its potential.

I am contemplating getting a foaming pump sprayer.

Garden Hose Spray Nozzle Sets – Eley Hose Reels
 
They do sell booster pumps that could bump up your water pressure. I realize this is kind of like bringing your pressure washer out, though. Amazon.com
 
Yes they do. I checked into it when I bought the Eley hose nozzle and then realized my pressure was too low. But that is a whole involved thing. Think my water pressure issue involves the number of new houses they have built near me. Don't know much about municipal water systems but I assume the more people drawing water from the source something has to give.

By the way that Eley hose nozzle is the cats ass. One can change out tips via quick disconnects. One tip looked pretty close to a pressure washer and that was my hope and it has very high build quality. Rather than hook up a water pressure booster think I would rather just buy all the goodies for my electric pressure washer. Or I was looking around a little and those Active 2.0 pressure washers look nice.

I'm kind of undecided on which way to go. Opinions on foaming are all over the place. Think if one uses some type of high PH pre soak then it is actually doing something but then it is eating away at one's protection. Maybe the key is to keep the surface slick through one's choice of protection therefore making contaminants much easier to remove.
 
SA,
Thanks for the suggestion on the boost pump. It got me thinking. At present the boost. pump is the leading canidate. I had entertained that thought before but couldn't really find a pump that also worked well for that application.

Found a pump that will do a max of 5 GPM and a max pressure of 70 PSI. My hose bib at present flows 3.5 GPM and has a static pressure of 43 PSI.So with the addition of a pump my hope is the pressure will be sufficient to allow an Eley nozzle to perform as it should. Don't believe I will need to exceed the 3.5 GPM that my system produces to get good results from the Eley.

I realize the Eley is not as good as a pressure washer but it's probably the closest thing in garden hose form. So anyone have an Eley nozzle and happen to know what your water pressure is (PSI) and how well that allows the Eley to work?
 
Well I have changed my mind again. I feel like a ping pong ball on this subject. As I said initially I am looking to keep the use of things simple. What I was not aware of, through my own ignorance, was that there are systems to wall mount a pressure washer. The pressure washer hose is on a reel and all can be activated with the flick of a switch.

I’d say that keeps things pretty simple. So now I am researching the possibilities with that.
 
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