Disappointed with GG6 DA!!

Yes I do own a Flex when I have a vehicle with a hard clear coat like alot of the Mercedes & BMW models :/
 
The again, I have read of many who have bought the Flex 3401 and have returned it or sold it because the did not like it. Some say the machine trends to "walk". Also, would a machine with a larger orbit like the Rupes tend to be harder to control do to the larger throw? I'm just curious, don't know.
 
^ I think what it comes down to is preferance. Not one machine is "one size fits all", use whatever works best for YOU. Although the GG6 is by no means a weak machine...believe that.
 
I own both and do not use the GG buffer anymore because it made my hands go numb too. It is just too much vibration for me. The Flex 3401 is very easy to use and can buff a whole car and not have my hands killing me for a few days. It is more expensive but worth every penny to me. Just my two cents.
 
21mm throw for the "bigfoot" Rupes. That DA must be a MONSTER. I'm not sure how easy it would be to control with that large of a throw, BUT, it''s not forced rotation, so it may pretty smooth.
 
All the reviews of the Rupes say it's easier to control than the Flex 3401. If you can spend the money on a Flex then just go a little more and buy the Rupes. Plus when Kevin Brown is behind a machine then you know it has to be good!
 
CM8 6MT said:
Yes I do own a Flex when I have a vehicle with a hard clear coat like alot of the Mercedes & BMW models :/
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That's what I have, a BMW X5 black on black, it's my first European car, apparently most European cars have a harder type of paint. I can definitely tell the difference in the paint from my American and Japanese cars.
 
badboyvr4 said:
Yeah, I realized that after the fact...lol! Like I said, I haven't put a machine on a car since back in the mid 90's, just don't have the time, and there were no DA polishers back then I don't think. I returned the GG6 today, will be purchasing a FLEX XC3401 soon.
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You did the exact thing Corey did and he is glad he did every day of the year! IMO you made the right choice. Take your time with it and learn HOW it works and you'll be golden! Congrats.


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swanicyouth said:
The again, I have read of many who have bought the Flex 3401 and have returned it or sold it because the did not like it. Some say the machine trends to "walk". Also, would a machine with a larger orbit like the Rupes tend to be harder to control do to the larger throw? I'm just curious, don't know.
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No. There are videos online now showing it in action including one done at L2D. I'm getting a 21.


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I'm of course no Engineer, or Product Designer, and have never had the assortment of these machines in hand to notice the varying differences amongst them.

But, some thoughts, and observations come to mind, things like a synergy of certain Backing Plates and particular Pads, that they work their best?

I know this has probably been discussed to death here, about machines like the PC-7424/XP versions not working quite so well with 6-1/2" Pads, and a large Backing Plate, that the 5" Plate, and 5.5" Pads are a better match. A better match in one respect, but is it actually ideal as far as balance? Seems my new PC DA specifically says 5" Backing Plate, that I understand there is an optional heavier weight available.

That even though the GG DA Machine is said to have a more powerful Motor than the PC, this could as well maybe be a machine that struggles with larger Plates-Pads due to a similar free-rotating design?

That a thought that has occured to me, is the ideal mating of Pad, Backing Plate, and the stock factory installed Counterweight? Is it an ideal match per any given machine?

That, does the Stock Counterweight has some leeway in properly balancing these aftermarket add ons? That perhaps bolting on a 5.5" Backing Plate and Pads to some of these machines gives a performance enhancement on one hand, yet causes yet another problem as excessive vibration, and shake?

Other thoughts as I close are the speeds selected? I would assume the higher the speeds used, the higher the degree of shake, and vibration felt at the user's hands?
Mark
 
I think I would've tried 5.5" pads and a pair of $30 ergo vibration reduction gloves before I returned it. All machines will have some form of vibration.
 
The reason the Flex 3401will walk on you is that you are not keeping the pad flat on the panel. I have 6" Griots DA and use now as often as the Flex 3401. I even have a PC7242XP which is relegated for use with a carpet brush and 3" pads.

The Griots is a good machine and I really don't notice the vibration. I also polish and wax vehicles every weekend. I am an enthusiast that enjoys detailing and learning new techniques.

Ed

:autowash: :buffing:
 
I think rotary still the best and the fatest way to do paint correction imho, im not saying that DA can't do it but it tooks more time than a rotary. And the vibration from DA is PITA if u used it for a long time (i have meg g220v2) ;) and i read at previous post someone said that it can give u an injury i forget about the name of injury, better we streching our hand before we used DA:xyxthumbs::) imho
 
I've had my 6" GG machine for over 2 years now and its been great and I'm using the stock backing plate with various pads w/o a problem. I know there's more expensive machines but I agree with someone who said how heavy the Flex was, atleast the one I tried out (had the handle out front) and it kicked my butt! I guess it comes down to making sure everything is tight and it could be that the 6" GG machine isn't for everyone, everyone likes something different I guess.
 
I sold my 3401 and gg6 2nd gen. Retained my pcxp. Using it once a month for 3years now. Microfiber pads, m105 and d300 revolutionized random orbital polishers. In tempted to get the gg6 3rd gen
 
KneeDragr said:
Thats why I only correct a panel or two each time I detail my car, lol. I seriously cant figure out how these guys can pound out a whole car in a day, for a living!
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Actually we pound out multiple cars a day every day :hungry:
I may speak for a few when I say that you just get use to whatever vibrations you might get, I only get vibrations out of my rotary and I actually went out and bought some gel lined gloves for that purpose and it works great.
 
statusdetailing said:
A lot of guys talk about how the PC is underpowered. I disagree. I think it is just right for light polishing and finishing--what it's designed for. The problem is that guys try to correct with it, and that's just a huge waste of time. With a 5 inch backing plate a 5.5 inch pade I can really put a lot of pressure on the machine without stoping the rotation.
:iagree: Gotta have the right tool for the job. How can you expect a tool to function properly if your not using it for it's intended job.
In order to correct with a DA you'll have to have a flex or Rupes or something similar.
Or you can learn how to use a rotary :dblthumb2:
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CM8 6MT said:
^ I think what it comes down to is preferance. Not one machine is "one size fits all", use whatever works best for YOU. Although the GG6 is by no means a weak machine...believe that.
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:iagree:
 
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