Dodge DEMON Released...

brettS4 said:
Altho I still think it screams small pee-pee.
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Wow, tough crowd here. Have had my Hellcat for 14 months now and love it. It's my daily driver and all I've had to do is change oils and fill it with gas - it's been completely problem free. And did I mention I can't stop grinning. Even driving to the super market is fun. But I like having a back seat (the Demon doesn't have one) and I can't see driving around with drag radials all the time - especially here in Florida. Would be quite the adventure driving it in the rain.
 
ScottH said:
With only 3,000 being produced, it will become an instant collectible! Clay bar it, apply favorite Carnauba and wrap up for 25 years. You'll likely triple your money.

ScottH
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"Tripling your money" over a 25-year period is actually a 4.49% annual rate of return.

I think I'll just drive the hell out of my Demon and sell it used to recover some of my initial investment .
 
While completely an impractical car unless you were some part owner of a drag strip or lived on a flat hot strip of straight smooth road in the desert...I think most people car people would at least want to own this thing for a few weeks.

If you like V8s. I mean there isn't much like firing up a hellcat especially in a garage and then driving it. It's makes you feel like a kid again ! And that's a good thing. We haven't even heard or driven the demon in real life yet.

Hell I love driving even the plain 6.4 cars they are a blast to drive. Just can't justify one at this point in our life. Family focused. I would get a scat charger in a heartbeat if I could talk my wife in to driving a mini van daily. Lol


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I think the whole build up was a gimmick, IMO. I mean all the teaser vids, the mysterious license plates and now, come to find out you can pay $1.00 to have the passenger seat put back in and another $1.00 to have the rear seat put back in too, LOL.

Then there's the NHRA ban and the "framed" letter from their president of whoever he is, LOL. You went that far with the car and didn't equip it with a cage? Why not a parachute too? Imagine the additional padding the owner would have to install at his genuflecting pad if it had a factory cage and parachute, you would have to have a cheap motel nearby for all those people at cruise night.

Factory drag car that you can't take to the track because everyone who works for/runs the track knows how fast the car is and will not let you run unless you have the safety equipment...well, I'm sure there's some backwoods tracks that will let you.

Like I said, I hope they sell every last one of them!

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Klasse Act said:
You went that far with the car and didn't equip it with a cage?
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It wouldn't have passed highway safety requirements with a cage so it had to be delivered with out one. IMO they should have installed roll cage plates into the car and offered it as an accessory.


Factory drag car that you can't take to the track because everyone who works for/runs the track knows how fast the car is and will not let you run unless you have the safety equipment...well, I'm sure there's some backwoods tracks that will let you.
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tracks I go to will let you roll anything. you'll just be told to shut it down early or if you don't, just keep rolling out as you'll be booted.
 
MattPersman said:
While completely an impractical car unless you were some part owner of a drag strip or lived on a flat hot strip of straight smooth road in the desert...I think most people car people would at least want to own this thing for a few weeks.
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lots of people with more money than skills. most true enthusiasts will build their own car. Personally, I'd buy a stock Hellcat and put a few bolt on's and a tune and live with something damn close. Well, reality is I'd buy a used RS7 with a few bolt ons and a tune and run low 10's in style. That's my short term plan anyway. For now I'll live with what is about to be low 11's upon my next visit.
 
Watch the hellcat vs tesla episode of head to head. The tesla was half way down the track before the hellcat moved off the line. Seems burning the tires into oblivion makes for good movie scenes but it's not something that wins races. The demon probably is much worse. Super cars with that much power are worthless unless they are all wheel drive and can actually get that power to the track without sitting in a cloud of burning rubber. imo.
 
pdqgp said:
tracks I go to will let you roll anything. you'll just be told to shut it down early or if you don't, just keep rolling out as you'll be booted.
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What tracks do you go to? I wanna go, please, please, please. Im the MAN
 
As someone who lived through the 70's, and saw first hand what the fuel crisis and the effort to meet emission requirements without the benefit of today's electronics did to the performance and drivability cars, I say we are living in the golden age of automobiles.

In fact back then had you handed me a smartphone and a brochure for any type of performance car (or really any car for that matter) from 2017. I would have been less surprised by the smartphone than by the type of cars that we would be driving in 40 years.

They don't build them like they used to THANK GOD.
 
Im not quite sure what the purpose of this car is. Its built to go straight (acceleration times reported are with drag radials I think) yet is to fast for NHRA competition. The Hellcat can at least turn and stop (not as well as the ZL1 or Shelby 350) but plenty well enough. Yes, the horsepower numbers are impressive, but at what cost? Whats the EPA figures? There are plenty of aftermarket companies putting out supercharged LS motors close to 1000hp.

I just dont see what the big deal is. Its a specially built car, for a very narrow purpose, that cant even completely compete in that purpose.

All things considered, compared to the Camaro and Mustang, the Challenger platform is very heavy, and outdated...bigger news will be when Dodge introduces a new Challenger that competes not just in a straight line with the Mustang and Camaro.

BTW, and Hellcat owners can attest, its hard enough to put the 707hp the Hellcat comes with to the pavement. :)
 
parshooter said:
What tracks do you go to? I wanna go, please, please, please. Im the MAN
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National Trials which is now under new ownership - good thing, Kilkare is now re-opened and Edgewater in Cinci are the ones I tend to go to. I'm having work done to my car so I'm out of the NTR May 12th date but I'm game after that. Edgewater is a nice track. That's where I turned my best times so far. My goal is low 11's at 120mph or better which is what my car should run now. It will depend on track prep.
 
Jaretr1 said:
Im not quite sure what the purpose of this car is. Its built to go straight (acceleration times reported are with drag radials I think) yet is to fast for NHRA competition. The Hellcat can at least turn and stop (not as well as the ZL1 or Shelby 350) but plenty well enough. Yes, the horsepower numbers are impressive, but at what cost? Whats the EPA figures? There are plenty of aftermarket companies putting out supercharged LS motors close to 1000hp.

I just dont see what the big deal is. Its a specially built car, for a very narrow purpose, that cant even completely compete in that purpose.

All things considered, compared to the Camaro and Mustang, the Challenger platform is very heavy, and outdated...bigger news will be when Dodge introduces a new Challenger that competes not just in a straight line with the Mustang and Camaro.

BTW, and Hellcat owners can attest, its hard enough to put the 707hp the Hellcat comes with to the pavement. :)
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OK, you answered the first sentence with the second sentence. The car is not too fast for NHRA comp, it is too fast to not have a roll cage. The car is not built to turn, like the Camaro or Mustang. EPA figures, who cares? It's basically a race car. Yes, there are plenty of aftermarket companies that can make 1000 hp motors. The draw of the Demon is that it comes from the factory with lots of HP.
It may be hard to put 707 hp "to the pavement", it's a challenge (but a hell of a lot of fun) to put my 485 hp to the pavement. So what's your point?
 
It's a factory built 9 second car. Think about that for a second.

This spawns from the days of the acid dipped/aluminum bodied/factory lightweight/Hemi powered stuff from back in the day. An example might be the 1964 Dodge Ramcharger Superstock that was in Otis Chandlers collection, or the 1968 L023 Hemi Dart. Stuff that had the sticker that said "This vehicle was not manufactured for use on Public Streets, Roads or Highways, and does not conform to Motor Vehicle Safety Standards"

Think of the days of Yenko/Nickey/Baldwin-Motion/COPO too, dumping big blocks (like the aluminum ZL-1) in cars to go ripping down a track, but yet you could get these at the dealer, from the dealer.

You don't ask why the cars were built. I think you either understand it or you don't. They were built and built to go fast. I think there is a lot of cool to this car.

My father drag raced back in the day with his 70 Challenger R/T 383 4spd. He was actually looking to buy a 71 340 Demon, but the dealerships had sold out, so he got a deal on the one year old Challenger. He laughs when you think about the work they had done on their cars back then to get the times they did, and now you get 9 seconds from the factory!

Chances are, I know these are the guys that will have a soft spot for a car like this. It hits all the points that had these guys at the track in the first place. That, and other people that like to go fast!

All that being said, I like it!
 
golliger said:
As someone who lived through the 70's, and saw first hand what the fuel crisis and the effort to meet emission requirements without the benefit of today's electronics did to the performance and drivability cars, I say we are living in the golden age of automobiles.

In fact back then had you handed me a smartphone and a brochure for any type of performance car (or really any car for that matter) from 2017. I would have been less surprised by the smartphone than by the type of cars that we would be driving in 40 years.

They don't build them like they used to THANK GOD.
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ALL OF THIS

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pdqgp said:
This at a light on the street would make for an interesting challenge though. Likely more of a challenge for the driver than the car next to them though. The Hellcat is hard enough to launch at the track let alone on the street. A Demon is going to be hell to launch if they aren't running drag radials. From a roll on the street is where they stand a better chance against most.
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I drive a manual. I have to be perfect when I launch. If I smoke the tires I am done. If I lag I am done. With a Manual Transmission it is very hard to get it right. If I mis-shift (thank God and KNOCK ON WOOD it hasn't happened to me...yet) it's over. My point being, if you have a talented driver whether it be for manual transmission or automatic, the Demon should win most of the time against any stock manufactured car. That goes for Ford, Chevy, Porsche, Nissan GTR, etc.

I think the Hellcat and Demon are 2 good candidates for excitement!
 
Chevy, Ford, and Dodge all build race cars both for road racing and drag racing, race ready. So this is a street legal drag racing car thats not ready to race when you buy it? I guess im not easily impressed. :(
 
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