Does Sonax Dashboard Cleaner Have UV Protection??

[gatoman39]

No but I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Apparently you' not reading the threads. It's the second post. Try reading the thread next time instead.

 

[Dubbin1]

Apparently you' not reading the threads. It's the second post. Try reading the thread next time instead.

Dude we are talking about all cars not just jeeps... So again, I don't see what it has to do with anything.

 

[David Fermani]

Yeah "long term protection" but what about short term? Are you saying that even if you keep putting a protectant on that its doing anything?

Also what is considered long term?

Hi Dwayne. Like sun tan lotion, it really depends on how much and how often you apply it to reap any kind of measureable benefit(which is miniscule) from it. I'm talking hours and maybe days, not months, years and decades. There's no point in applying an interior protectant when you have glass and modern interiors components that are creating 1000++ times more long term protection. Plus, most alter the look and feel of the dash which (IMHO) is disgusting.

Although this relates to sun tan lotion, here's an interesting article:

How Does Sunscreen Work? Skin, Sunscreens and Repairing Skin From Sun Damage

Anyone that wants to question the actual protection a product offers should contact the manufacturer and ask them to provide you with the documentation that supports their claims. I have and none have been able to provide me with any.

 

[jackwax]

Dude we are talking about all cars not just jeeps... So again, I don't see what it has to do with anything.

Are you really qualified to give advice? I mean anyone can sit back, read a few threads, send a few pm's, and become familiar with products. But do you really have experience?

 

[Flannigan]

Hi Dwayne. Like sun tan lotion, it really depends on how much and how often you apply it to reap any kind of measureable benefit(which is miniscule) from it. I'm talking hours and maybe days, not months, years and decades. There's no point in applying an interior protectant when you have glass and modern interiors components that are creating 1000++ times more long term protection. Plus, most alter the look and feel of the dash which (IMHO) is disgusting.

Although this relates to sun tan lotion, here's an interesting article:

How Does Sunscreen Work? Skin, Sunscreens and Repairing Skin From Sun Damage

Anyone that wants to question the actual protection a product offers should contact the manufacturer and ask them to provide you with the documentation that supports their claims. I have and none have been able to provide me with any.

How does a quality interior product like UIGP or Nero alter the feel if it totally dries? Also these days most quality products either leave a low gloss or no gloss look.

 

[Flannigan]

Are you really qualified to give advice? I mean anyone can sit back, read a few threads, send a few pm's, and become familiar with products. But do you really have experience?

Wow, do you even know him? What makes you qualified to decide who can give advice on a public forum?

 

[jackwax]

Wow, do you even know him? What makes you qualified to decide who can give advice on a public forum?

You again? What is this, the bopsy twins? The message is clear in the posts. Maybe if the 2 of you were not so negative toward other members you wouldn't receive such criticism.

 

[Dubbin1]

Hi Dwayne. Like sun tan lotion, it really depends on how much and how often you apply it to reap any kind of measureable benefit(which is miniscule) from it. I'm talking hours and maybe days, not months, years and decades. There's no point in applying an interior protectant when you have glass and modern interiors components that are creating 1000++ times more long term protection. Plus, most alter the look and feel of the dash which (IMHO) is disgusting.

Well there must be some kind of a point to it if it does add some kind of protection. I'm pretty sure its going to last more than a few hours and would guess a week isn't out of the question.

I'll have to find some time to make a few calls and see what they have to say about it.

 

[Dubbin1]

do you really have experience?

Nope none at all

I would really like to know who you really are since you obviously came here only to cause problems with 2 members... How you are connecting us two together is way beyond me.

 

[john b]

mr.jacwax,why are you here? most of us are here to learn about products to see what works and what does not in our opinions,and there are alot of fine folks that do detailing for a liveing and others that have been doing it for years on end. i seek advice all the time and i generally get it and i do send pm alot to the folks that have much more knowledge than i

 

[FUNX650]

interesting that you bring this topic up. This will not help with your question (for that i'm sorry I dont have any input), but here is my take on it.

I have a 03 jeep grand cherokee that I bought from the company I work for. Before I owned it, my father did.

This vehicle has never seen a single interior product in its lifetime. And lived outdoors in the sun its entire life. Has never seen shade on purpose or a garage. I gave the interior a full detail last spring , and trust me it was dirty.

I basically used a light mixture of APC on the entire interior and it came out spotless. and there was ZERO visual degradation to the dashboard or any interior vinyl/plastic pieces.

After this experience I really began to question the need for UV interior dressings on modern cars. Ive come to the conclusion that modern chemistry and manufacturing have really come a long way. And most "quality" cars are very resistant to the harsh conditions that can be thrown at them.

Since I have really began to not worry so much about protecting the interior of my cars as much as I used to. And now I use more and more 1 step products for leather and plastic as well. Instead of dedicated conditioners and cleaners.

I liked the sonax dashboard cleaner very much though. I have found megs quick interior detailer a bit easier to use on a wider range or surfaces.

sorry for steering off the specific topic mark. lol

I see that you feel your '03 Jeep is a quality car and therefore falls into the category of: modern chemistry and manufacturing have really come a long way......and are very resistant to the harsh conditions..

Could you please list a few of today's OEM vehicles that you feel are not "quality" cars that don't meet that criteria? I'm anxious to see if my vehicles are so listed. Maybe I can save a dollar or two by not having to purchase those interior car care products.

(I understand this criteria may not be applicable to vehicles of the unmodern era---maybe you have the date of the advent of the modern era vehicle production---this would be of tremendous value. Thanks.

Bob

 

[IID]

It's normal for me to clean and add a dashboard protectant to my customers vehicles when they pay for an interior detail.I have not had a problem yet and not sure I will.I would say 60% of the vehicles I detail are daily drivers,that sit outside in the mid-day sun.I would think a protectant would help slow down the aging/fading process to some extent.
One of the products I use for interior protectant application is:


Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray

This is the description on the AG store site for this product:
"Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray beautifies and protects vinyl and plastic from the effects of ozone and UV rays. Prevent premature cracking and fading with special Polycharger polymers. Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray leaves a nongreasy, satin finish on all interior vinyl and plastic surfaces.

Polycharger makes it better! Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray contains Polycharger polymers to boost shine, durability, and protection. Polycharger is already added to the formula. Enjoy longer lasting results with Polycharger!

Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray addresses the two main causes of vinyl deterioration: the sun and ozone. A strong UV protectant shields the dash, door panels, vinyl seats, and console from ultraviolet rays. Polycharged polymers provide excellent defense against ozone, a.k.a. ground-level airborne pollution. The results are supple vinyl and plastics with a healthy, satin glow.

Another primary threat is petroleum distillates. Many dash dressings are made with petroleum distillates to give the surface a high gloss. However, these dressings are often greasy and dust attractants. Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray contains no petroleum distillates. It creates a nongreasy finish with a subtle satin sheen. Interior surfaces look like new!

Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray preserves vinyl and plastics in their original, factory condition. On older vehicles, this powerful protectant stops further damage and restores the luster to dull surfaces.

Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray should be applied to a clean, dry surface. Spray a light mist onto a microfiber towel or applicator pad. Wipe in a circular motion. Allow the protectant to penetrate for a few minutes and then wipe off any excess.

Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray gives your vehicle’s interior a showroom satin finish and unbeatable protection, all in a safe, petroleum distillate-free formula. Doesn’t your vehicle deserve the ultimate interior protection?

I would think there had to be some research and development with this (and other interior protectants) product before releasing the product for sale to the public but until this thread,never thought twice about the short/long term effectiveness of it. :dunno:

 

[gatoman39]

It's normal for me to clean and add a dashboard protectant to my customers vehicles when they pay for an interior detail.I have not had a problem yet and not sure I will.I would say 60% of the vehicles I detail are daily drivers,that sit outside in the mid-day sun.I would think a protectant would help slow down the aging/fading process to some extent.
One of the products I use for interior protectant application is:


Four Star Ultimate Vinyl Protectant Spray

How's the shine relative to some of the more popular: say 303AP?

 

[IID]

How's the shine relative to some of the more popular: say 303AP?

I would say it does leave a very hint of shine on some surfaces and not so much on others.Depends on the vehicle as some vehicles interiors already have the less expensive(plastic would you call it) shiny interiors as opposed to others that have higher end, a less shiny type of material,vinyl?
When using this product,I do a light buff with another dry MF after applying.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

I would say it does leave a very hint of shine on some surfaces and not so much on others.Depends on the vehicle as some vehicles interiors already have the less expensive(plastic would you call it) shiny interiors as opposed to others that have higher end, a less shiny type of material,vinyl?
When using this product,I do a light buff with another dry MF after applying.

On the same surfaces, would 4* have more shine than Sonax dashboard cleaner?

 

[David Fermani]

How does a quality interior product like UIGP or Nero alter the feel if it totally dries? Also these days most quality products either leave a low gloss or no gloss look.

I can honestly say I’ve never used either and will never want or need to. Here’s what the manufacturer/reseller claims it does:


Once your vehicle's interior is clean, clearcoat it with Ultima Interior Guard Plus! Ultima Interior Guard Plus uses superior science and technology to coat, seal and protect every finish inside your fine automobile. This clear sealant dries completely and will not leave a greasy, slippery film that attracts dust. Instead, fabrics, leather and vinyl all take on the tactile feel of fine cashmere. You will glide in and out of your leather seating and feel a new comfort that's silky smooth, but not slippery.
Ultima Interior Guard Plus is the first and only polymer sealant for automotive interiors. The Ultima sealant protection lasts for months and requires only a damp cloth or Ultima Detail Spray Plus to clean and maintain. Plus, unlike traditional interior dressings, Ultima Interior Guard Plus maintains an even, natural appearance and will not fog your interior glass.

Helps Prevent:
· Fading from UV ray penetration
· Staining of seats and carpet
· Leather drying and premature aging


Prima Nero is a water-based vinyl, rubber, and plastic protectant and dressing for both interior and exterior surfaces. The appeal of Nero is its finish: it's a concours-look with a matte silkiness on vinyl dashes and plastic trim. Nero leaves tires with a look of newness, adding almost no gloss. If you are looking for the glazed donut shine, Prima Nero is not for you. UV inhibitors help defend against sun damage. Prima Nero is detergent resistant for excellent durability.

Because vehicles don’t come feeling “silky” from the factory, I prefer to not alter that feeling when I clean & preserve them. I definitely don’t want my interior “clearcoated” either.

Maybe you can get the UV data studies from the independent testing facility each manufacturer used to back up their claims of anti-UV penetration and blocking abilities? Otherwise you're buying into the nonsense like everyone else. :dblthumb2:

I would think there had to be some research and development with this (and other interior protectants) product before releasing the product for sale to the public but until this thread,never thought twice about the short/long term effectiveness of it. :dunno:

It's called marketing. Many rely on selling their false innuendos to uneducated consumers. Do you think all of the above is 100% accurate and true?

 

[FUNX650]

UV protection is basically a hyped myth by certain chemical companies to sell their products. No such thing. Rely on your glass and not on a detail chemical to protect your interior from UV rays. Any "protection" a product claims is only measured in short time frames just like sun tan lotion.

:iagree:

I was under the impression that Optimum Technologies (along with, no doubt, others) was in the process of formulating, possibly now testing, interior protectant product(s), for better lack of term, similar to their Opti-Gard/Coat 2.0's protecting abilities.

I wonder:If this is true...Could this be hype or the "real deal"? A lot of other products seem to do what they say they will do--- but for the long-term, that could also be hype.


RE: Vehicles glass areas: Today's modern glass is a barrier against the sun, but how about the heat transfer? Heat is a known threat to the integrity of interior materials is it not? I don't think a protectant would alleviate this heat. Besides placing a vehicle out of direct sunlight, rolling the windows down a fraction, or some kind of an exhaust mechanism, heat may still present itself as an undesirable foe in the long-term.


RE: Short term protecting abilities of interior protectants: Like most protectant products, they have to be re-applied on a regular maintenance schedule. After cleaning, an application even if short-lived, may be, IMO, of benefit.


RE: Suntan Lotion Affect: Preference of champagne, ecru, fawn, beige (a "brown/tan" color, if you will) interiors---if your interior is going to get a "tan"---then how would you know?
I can accept the UV testing results on humans but have trouble with UV testing on vehicles' materials--the results may be out there--trust is the issue...but that's just my thoughts.

Bob

 

[gatoman39]

RE: Suntan Lotion Affect: Preference of champagne, ecru, fawn, beige (a "brown/tan" color, if you will) interiors---if your interior is going to get a "tan"---then how would you know?
I can accept the UV testing results on humans but have trouble with UV testing on vehicles' materials--the results may be out there--trust is the issue...but that's just my thoughts.

Bob

I really don't know how to qualify these claims, nor do I understand the context. This sounds like pure marketing to me.

303 Aerospace Protectant has a SPF of 40, the most UV protection offered by any surface protectant.

Lexol Premium Protectant has an SPF of 60.

 

[Dubbin1]

I can honestly say I’ve never used either and will never want or need to.

Yeah well you have no idea what you're missing then because UIGP is an awesome product.

You have no more knowledge on if these products really add protection than anyone else on this forum and it just kills me that you think they do nothing. I also love how you call it nonsense without knowing yourself. You argue something with zero facts while we at least have a claim from the top companies making the stuff. I'll go with the manufacturer claims in that they do offer protection because they are the ones that paid for the studies so they can make those claims.


Not trying to start an argument just telling it like it is.

On another note why wouldn't you want your interiors "clear coated"? It helps protect against stains from spills and makes clean up a snap. Seems to me if you are any kind of a real detailer you would welcome kind of product into your arsenal.

 

[Ted S.]

I don't know if anythng with "UV protection" or any other claims are of benifit, but I do know a well dressed interior looks a whole hell of a lot more appealing than a bland, lifeless interior that's just "really clean" from the chemicals used to clean it.

Just my opinion, of course...rops: