Does your Griot's DA say PROFESSIONAL random orbital on the side?

Mark, just measure the current of both units and it will answer a lot of endless speculation.

If there was change, they could use same motor but just limit current draw to effectively slow it down.
 
Bunky said:
Mark, just measure the current of both units and it will answer a lot of endless speculation.

If there was change, they could use same motor but just limit current draw to effectively slow it down.
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How would I do that?
 
ZEE BEST said:
Agreed. :dblthumb2:

Clear your PM's!!!
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Cleared...
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ZEE BEST said:
Here's griot's response to my email.....

Hello Mark,

Thank you for your email regarding our Random Orbital.

Both of these units are the same internally. The only difference is the sticker.

I would say that the reason one of the units is stronger is that the DIP switch was set to a higher and incorrect setting at the factory.

Mark if you have any further questions please feel free to contact me directly!

Thanks,
Kevin.


THOUGHTS??

I just emailed Griot's a link to this thread.
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My thoughts?
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There have been two questions that continually surface regarding the GG 6 -- Is there a change in the machine if it does not have Professional on the side and will GG honor the lifetime warranty if the unit is purchased from a retailer rather than GG direct.

I sent an email to one of their customer service reps who has been very up front and helpful to me before I made my purchase of the GG 6 in January. Mine is the 10' cord and does not have Professional on the side of the machine -- I have nothing to compare the power to, but can tell you on speed 4 it takes considerable pressure to stop the RO and on speed 6 it is almost impossible to stop the RO action with any amount of pressure.

Here is the response I recieved from my contact at GG:

"Most online vendors offer a 30 day warranty. If something goes wrong with the orbital within the 30 days, the machine needs to be returned to the business it was purchased from. If the orbital malfunctions after the first 30 days, it can be returned to us for exchange. We must receive the defective product before shipping a replacement. If the customer needs a replacement product immediately, the customer must place a new order and we will refund the customer for the replacement once we receive the defective product. So that we are able to identify the return, the customer should include their name, address, and original place of purchase on a note inside the package, or include a copy of their original receipt along with a completed return form that can be found on our website here. Unfortunately, refunds cannot be provided because we do not have record of the purchase. If the customer wants a refund, they MUST go through the retailer the product was originally purchased from.


In regards to your question about our latest generation of orbital, it is lighter then the previous generation but does in fact have more torque. Our orbitals are not industrial strength machines and cannot handle 10-12 hours of continuous use. Many detailers use our machines in this way (all day, everyday) and then say our orbitals are defective or do not work after a year or two of use. The orbitals are designed for a hobbyist or the weekend car guy who has a few vehicles to regularly polish and wax, it's not designed for industrial use and that is why we no longer have the word "Professional" on our orbital. In no way have we lowered the quality or power of our latest generation orbital.

Our lifetime warranty covers manufacturer defect, we do not warranty wear and tear. So if the orbital unexpectedly stops working we will refund, repair or replace the machine. If the orbital stops working due to being dropped, abused, run-over, etc. we will not warranty it."

Hope this helps!!
 
yay a complete answer finally at last thanks ski2. I was prety much spot on if i let myself brag a little haha jk. Anyways im happy with my purchase.
 
Bunky said:
You need an ammeter. If you have an electrician friend they may have one.
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With an ammeter (clamp tester) though, you will also need a line splitter to get a reading. A more practical solution for non-electricians would probably be to get a Kill-a-Watt or similar consumer-targeted device; these are widely available online (Amazon, for instance) for around $20.00. The Kill-a-Watt plugs into the wall socket; the Griot is then plugged into the device. This will then provide an accurate watts-consumed reading in real time as you use the polisher. Turn on the GG6, turn the speed up all the way, and simulate a heavy mechanical load while watching the digital readout.
 
Thanks Ski2,
I checked my father in laws GG6 that I bought him for Christmas, his does not say professional on it. It still is very powerful and rotates 5.5" pads on speed 4 with ease. I really can't notice any difference between my "professional" one and his non P version.

I think this has all came about by people wearing them out then demanding a warranty replacement. :nomore:

I still believe the GG6 is the strongest RO out there.:dunno:
 
Buckskincolt said:
Thanks Ski2,
I checked my father in laws GG6 that I bought him for Christmas, his does not say professional on it. It still is very powerful and rotates 5.5" pads on speed 4 with ease. I really can't notice any difference between my "professional" one and his non P version.

I think this has all came about by people wearing them out then demanding a warranty replacement. :nomore:

I still believe the GG6 is the strongest RO out there.:dunno:
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It isn't just my imagination I assure you

My original unit was still working terrific untill I loaned it to someone and they dropped it

The Meguiars has as much if not more power IMO. Not to mention machine stroke.....
 
Flash Gordon said:
It isn't just my imagination I assure you

My original unit was still working terrific untill I loaned it to someone and they dropped it

The Meguiars has as much if not more power IMO. Not to mention machine stroke.....
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I don't think you guys are imagining this, makes you wonder if there was a run batch that have an issue? Seems all the pro version were good on power and only some of the non pro are .... Hmm.
 
Buckskincolt said:
I don't think you guys are imagining this, makes you wonder if there was a run batch that have an issue? Seems all the pro version were good on power and only some of the non pro are .... Hmm.
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Do you think if I put a sticker that says "profesional" on the side it will make it perform better?
 
Flash Gordon said:
Do you think if I put a sticker that says "profesional" on the side it will make it perform better?
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Nope, the pro lable just denotes a change in a build run. Maybe a bad batch or maybe the MFR made changes to build it cheaper for their profit and Griot has no idea.
 
both mine say professional, and I purchased them over a year apart from each other, last one being last year
 
dnobel said:
With an ammeter (clamp tester) though, you will also need a line splitter to get a reading. A more practical solution for non-electricians would probably be to get a Kill-a-Watt or similar consumer-targeted device; these are widely available online (Amazon, for instance) for around $20.00. The Kill-a-Watt plugs into the wall socket; the Griot is then plugged into the device. This will then provide an accurate watts-consumed reading in real time as you use the polisher. Turn on the GG6, turn the speed up all the way, and simulate a heavy mechanical load while watching the digital readout.
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Thanks!!!

Just ordered this exact one. This will tell the true story!! I'll have it on Friday!! :dblthumb2:
 
ski2 said:
Here is the response I recieved from my contact at GG:


In regards to your question about our latest generation of orbital, it is lighter then the previous generation but does in fact have more torque. Our orbitals are not industrial strength machines and cannot handle 10-12 hours of continuous use.

Many detailers use our machines in this way (all day, everyday) and then say our orbitals are defective or do not work after a year or two of use.

The orbitals are designed for a hobbyist or the weekend car guy who has a few vehicles to regularly polish and wax, it's not designed for industrial use and that is why we no longer have the word "Professional" on our orbital. In no way have we lowered the quality or power of our latest generation orbital.

Our lifetime warranty covers manufacturer defect, we do not warranty wear and tear. So if the orbital unexpectedly stops working we will refund, repair or replace the machine. If the orbital stops working due to being dropped, abused, run-over, etc. we will not warranty it."

Hope this helps!!
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Mystery solved...


A very professional and courteous reply from Griot's.


Thank you for sharing. Again, this makes my point on people pushing tools like this one to their limit. Somthings going to give...


:)
 
ZEE BEST said:
Once I measure the wattage between the two units I have, then the mystery will be solved, at least for me. :D
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Until then,

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Seriously Mark, when you get it all figured out at the end of the day you still have options to help you tackle whatever it is you're working on.

And dang man, talk about starting a fire and then stoking it... you're the best, in fact ZEE BEST!!!!!!

Check out the number of replies and views!
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:)
 
Buckskincolt said:
Nope, the pro lable just denotes a change in a build run.
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Manufactured parts have tolerances. It's possible that the OP's first machine was at the extreme end of the tolerance range (for all the parts, least friction in the gearbox, hottest motor wind, etc.), or perhaps it just has an out-of-spec motor. Or maybe the mfr. substituted a more powerful motor in one batch (which both Flash and Zee got), perhaps to meet a shipping schedule when they didn't have the right motor. The labeling changes could be a coincidence.

Apologies if this was noted earlier in the thread.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Until then,

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Seriously Mark, when you get it all figured out at the end of the day you still have options to help you tackle whatever it is you're working on.

And dang man, talk about starting a fire and then stoking it... you're the best, in fact ZEE BEST!!!!!!

Check out the number of replies and views!
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:)
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:laughing:

I never noticed the amount of views!!! :eek:

I just REALLY like my first Griot's 6" RO. It feels great in my hands, very smooth polishing(smoother than the G110v2), and has tons of power! I like using the Griot's a lot more than the 3401. I know I'm the odd man out, but that's ok! :D

I always dig your posts, Mike! :props: :dblthumb2:
 
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