DuraGloss #111 clearcoat polish....thoughts

rwright said:
I see. I haven't used ZFX so I can't comment how it compares to 601. Is ZAIO thinner than 501 or similar
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I think ZAIO maybe a little thinner but it acts like it has oil in with it as it spreads easily. In the end when buffed they both appear to have the same slickness.

Dave
 
All this discussion of ZAIO and 501 makes me wonder how 501 mixed with Aqua Wax would work. Make it spread easier and cover more ground ?. Aqua Wax mixed with 105 ?.
Richard would you please give your thoughts on this.

Dave
 
Maybe we can get Klasse to mix up 4 parts polish to 1 part Aqua Wax and try it, he seems to be polishing every day. What do you say Klasse ?. If not I might try it this weekend.

Dave
 
I don't have #501, so I'm out, I've got AW, #101, #111 and PBA right now. I would like to see how this experiment works itself out. Now as far as applying/removal. I've used both Zaino and ofcoarse DG and find DG VERY easy to remove, it says you can use in the sun and last weekend I did just that, in the sun during the afternoon w/o a hint of problems removing it. Now the only thing I can think of is its being applied too much, what else can it be? I bought and use the PBA to add to the durability and enhanced gloss per their claim and as of right now, I have NO reason to not believe that its doing what it claims to be doing.

Would like to see the AW/501 mix and what happens, please report back to the class on Monday, LOL!
 
Klasse Act said:
I plan on mixing up 1 oz at a time when I do this, I also plan on getting the #101 very soon too, really wanna add some product with a slight amount of cleaners in there from time to time.

A little side note, my buddy Derek0609 told me that he went into a CarQuest today and wanted to buy some #111 and check this out, they're phasing it out for Surf City wax or whatever its called, really.......anyone know anything about this, sounds like a pure hype product to me and I bet its not better than DG. I need to find out if this is true with all the stores, if so, I'm going to see if they're clearing out their stuff near me, maybe it will go on sale......hmmmm!
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Just stopped by Carquest to buy some Duragloss myself and the guy there said they are going to quit carrying it. Nothing was on sale however.
 
That sucks man, looks like its a regional thing and if this infact the case, APB TO ALL ILLINOIS STATE POLICE......DO NOT ALLOW SURF CITY WAX PEOPLE IN THE STATE....THAT IS ALL, OVER AND OUT!

I say Surf City due to what they told my buddy Derek back in the metro Detroit area. I know this, with my gift of gab, I could sell DG products to auto parts stores around the country, I've already got lots of the product on my ride, love the product, easy to use and I know how to get people to see things my way....kill em' with kindness and just show em'......simple. I've got the hybrid so the driving around the country isn't going to cost DG too much money.....WHAT DO YOU THINK DG? This product has to be waaaaay better than Surf City!

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Most NAPA stores will get you DG products from their warehouse overnight with no shipping charges.
 
I think DG should revamp there packaging and labeling if they want to compete. In the retail market It looks a little bit 1980s. Unfortunately, most non detailers probably would buy a Surf City product, apposed to a DG product, as the packaging is more "gimmicky" and modern. Also, I think they should consider classifying their products more in line with other manufactures.

It seems like they call almost every LSP a "polish". Polish to me means something to correct defects. It's says nothing of the great protection the products are known for. I think of they called it something like: Duragloss 1 step: Cleans, Polishes, and Protects, they would sell a lot more retail LSP or AIO style products. Maybe consider calling their sealant only product, just that a "sealant". The numbers mean nothing to your average Saturday car washer at NAPA. Maybe that is not the market they are going after, don't know.
 
swanicyouth said:
I think DG should revamp there packaging and labeling if they want to compete. In the retail market It looks a little bit 1980s. Unfortunately, most non detailers probably would buy a Surf City product, apposed to a DG product, as the packaging is more "gimmicky" and modern. Also, I think they should consider classifying their products more in line with other manufactures.

It seems like they call almost every LSP a "polish". Polish to me means something to correct defects. It's says nothing of the great protection the products are known for. I think of they called it something like: Duragloss 1 step: Cleans, Polishes, and Protects, they would sell a lot more retail LSP or AIO style products. Maybe consider calling their sealant only product, just that a "sealant". The numbers mean nothing to your average Saturday car washer at NAPA. Maybe that is not the market they are going after, don't know.
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I agree with you to a point Swan, its true that the "masses" buy into gimmicks but to me, a serious consumer of these products, I have no issue with the packaging. Now as far as making the products more clear as to what they do, well, I couldn't agree with you more and your really onto something here for sure. I mean, you, I and everyone else figure it out but the "average Joe" out there doesn't get it and if it seems confusing, well, they'll grab something else, probably something that's in a dated, dark red bottle (clearing my throat) The point you made about calling their products a "polish" is dead center bullseye!!! Again, we all know what it does but the "average Joe" see's polish and says to himself, "well I'm looking for something that protects, not polishes". If you read you then know what it does, but when its on the shelf, well, you see words like POLISH and WAX, then ol' Joe grabs what he needs and its a pity too because even #101 offers protection and polishing traits, so he'd be best served going with that over something in the dark, red bottle.

If the guys/gals at DG see our comments Swan maybe we'll get real lucky and they'll bring over their spray on sealant too....BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME or in this case, SHIP IT OVER AND THEY WILL BUY!!
 
Along these same lines, that Duragloss calls 501 a boat and RV polish rather than one of the best AIO car products probably costs them thousands of dollars in lost sales every year.
 
Shortspark said:
Along these same lines, that Duragloss calls 501 a boat and RV polish rather than one of the best AIO car products probably costs them thousands of dollars in lost sales every year.
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Agreed because the "average Joe" out there probably things that its formulated for fiberglass and will not work on cars, its on my list for next products to try, when I place my next order at AG its going to be in my basket, along with a gallon of AW and their matte tire dressing. I know this, my next AG order is going to be a biggin':dblthumb2:
 
I believe DG makes a lot of products for other companies, including factory car care type stuff. Maybe they are more concerned with this market than the retail market here in the US.
 
If they make it for companies, I wonder which ones? I would completly dismiss some "generic" auto care products given/sold through a dealership for your new ride. I'm sure DG knows what they're doing but a few "tweaks" are in order IMO. I guess we're getting the word out though, free advertising but when you make such a great product the reviews flow like water!

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I've read in this thread people use 501/601 then 105/601. However 105 packaging indicates its a "cleaner" and sealant all in one product (at least on my bottle). Wouldn't the cleaner part of 105 remove the protection provides by 501 first step? Wouldn't 111 be a better topper as a pure sealant over 501 or 105 ? Either way I bought all 3 with some 601, might do half a hood with each 105 and 111 as a topper and see if both last all winter on a DD parked outside with 501 underneath.
 
Any pros have any thoughts on weekendwarriors question? I just bought 105 over 111 last week.
 
Ok I tried the mix. 4 parts 501 to 1 part Aqua Wax then 4 parts 105 to 1 part Aqua Wax.
First test was the 501 to the wife's Toyota plastic side mirrors which water spot if there is water within 10 miles. The 501/Aqua wax went on smoothly and buffed to a brilliant shine and appeared to gloss at a higher notch than just 501 alone. Could be a placebo effect. I think the 501 could be cut more, up to 50/50 which may help thin it out some more although it worked fine on the mirrors and a section of fiber glass on the RV which still cleaned when applied. A side note on the RV was a comparison of the shine ZAIO Vs. 501/Aqua Wax. The 501 had a noticeable notch up on ZAIO and application was about even between the two.
Second test was another try of 105 on the daughter's escort hood. I applied 601 then spritzed the applicator with one shot of Aqua Wax. The 105/Aqua Wax spread and lasted longer than the last time as I did 1/2 the hood before reloading. I let it sit for 30 minutes or so while I worked on other things. The 105 removed a lot easier than the last time and again the shine appeared to step up a notch. Maybe another placebo maybe not. I think the final verdict in case I am just wishing these results will be after some other people try this mixture. All applications were done by hand.

Dave
 
Dave, great review and nice taking the plunge mixing AW and 501 but how did you do it though? Did you pour some AW into something else and pour in the 501 into the AW bottle? I didn't know that #501 was thin enough to mix in w/ AW.

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Klasse Act said:
Dave, great review and nice taking the plunge mixing AW and 501 but how did you do it though? Did you pour some AW into something else and pour in the 501 into the AW bottle? I didn't know that #501 was thin enough to mix in w/ AW.

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I have some small clear plastic flip top plastic bottles that I squirted 501 or 105 till 3/4 full then used the squirt bottle that has the Aqua Wax and just squirted in on top of the 501/105 until the bottle was filled to the neck line which allows about 1/2" air gap and shook like he**. The Aqua Wax mixed right in. The bottles I used come from Zaino when you order ZFX.

Dave
 
weekendwarrior said:
I've read in this thread people use 501/601 then 105/601. However 105 packaging indicates its a "cleaner" and sealant all in one product (at least on my bottle). Wouldn't the cleaner part of 105 remove the protection provides by 501 first step? Wouldn't 111 be a better topper as a pure sealant over 501 or 105 ? Either way I bought all 3 with some 601, might do half a hood with each 105 and 111 as a topper and see if both last all winter on a DD parked outside with 501 underneath.
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I personally don't feel the cleaners in DG 105 will remove the sealant left behind by DG 501 as long as you're not using a heavy polishing pad. Pressure used with any product can change the outcome in my opinion. As long as the mechanical action used while spreading the 105 remains light and you use a soft foam or mf applicator, you should be fine. As for topping with DG 111, it's a great compliment.
 
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