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Is the premix of duragloss 105 and 601 premixed environmentally friendly? Can the unused portion be thrown away in a regular trash bin or down the drain?
 
I really don't know, but there's really no reason to throw it away. I mix up a small bottle, using a ruler rather than measuring spoons and just leave the leftover in the bottle. It may get a little thicker, but it's still very usable for quite some time. When I'm using it again, I'll just add a 1/4 inch of 601 to every inch of 105 or 501.

Bill
 
BillyJack said:
I really don't know, but there's really no reason to throw it away. I mix up a small bottle, using a ruler rather than measuring spoons and just leave the leftover in the bottle. It may get a little thicker, but it's still very usable for quite some time. When I'm using it again, I'll just add a 1/4 inch of 601 to every inch of 105 or 501.

Bill
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I clean my car two times a year, usually in spring and fall. Is the premix still safe to use on the paint if it has been sitting on the shelf for about 5-7 months? Thank you :)
 
Safe? If it's not a solid glob that you can't apply, then it's still "safe". I don't think there's any worries about it turning into paint stripper.
 
When I pre mix, I've noticed little puffs of steam/condensation coming out the top of the bottle. You have to look very closely. If i squeeze the bottle very lightly, and hold it against a dark background, a tiny puff of steam/condensation will come out. There's definitely some kind of chemical reaction taking place. I just assume that whatever reaction is taking place lends itself to what this stuff is supposed to do (i.e. part of the curing process). I also assume that were I to have some left over and let it sit for a week, that chemical reaction will most likely be done doing its thing. Does that mean it won't work correctly? I really don't know. But I do know i can't go wrong by only mixing what I'll use in one session.
 
After you finish all paint, use the leftover on wheels. Anything else should go in the garbage. Duragloss recommends using the mix no longer than 2 hours after mixing for optimum performance. Polish Bonding Agent #601 accelerates the cross linking of the polymers within their polishes, which means you want this to happen on the paint. Regarding disposal, the only thing I wouldn't do with any chemical is release into fresh water source such as a stream/creek/river. Pouring waxes/sealants down the drain is not ideal unless you wish to replace piping.
 
The alternative is to coat with #601, leave on paint as you coat with your next product, and wipe both layers off when dry. It's a quick extra step but you only use what you need.
Agreed, don't forget the wheels.
 
The sample I got from a forum member of 501/601 nearly exploded when I took the cap off. What I mean is, the condensation, or whatever it is, of which you speak, came out with some force making a popping sound as the red stopper came out of the bottle that the sample was packed in...this red cap was underneath the fliptop cap. So yes, there's a reaction going on. To me it just shows what it will do on paint, but...it could potentially present some danger if it got into your eyes. I may have posted about this a long time ago, but I'm not sure.
 
I felt compelled to answer this as I was the one who introduced this concept to the AG community 6 years ago:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/products-guides/26536-combining-duragloss-601-105-501-a.html


My experience using it is as follows. The first time I tried it, I mixed at least 2 ounces of the 501 originally and the proportional amount of 601 with it. I had way more mixed up than I used. That was ok as I intended it to be like a RTU product for when I needed it. Yes, it did thicken in viscosity once mixed after a few days, but its performance never wavered. Eventually (like after 6 months I believe), it solidified into a DG brick, LOL.

My suggestion still is to try to mix what you think you might use but don't sweat it if you've mixed up too much. Worse case scenario, you'll be throwing it out a long time later if it solidifies.

Hope that helps.
 
richy said:
I felt compelled to answer this as I was the one who introduced this concept to the AG community 6 years ago:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/products-guides/26536-combining-duragloss-601-105-501-a.html

My experience using it is as follows. The first time I tried it, I mixed at least 2 ounces of the 501 originally and the proportional amount of 601 with it. I had way more mixed up than I used. That was ok as I intended it to be like a RTU product for when I needed it. Yes, it did thicken in viscosity once mixed after a few days, but its performance never wavered. Eventually (like after 6 months I believe), it solidified into a DG brick, LOL.

My suggestion still is to try to mix what you think you might use but don't sweat it if you've mixed up too much. Worse case scenario, you'll be throwing it out a long time later if it solidifies.

Hope that helps.
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That's where I got my information years ago when I started playing with DG. If Richy posts it, you can take it to the bank.

Bill
 
Richy,
I still have the bottle you sent to me. Other than nearly getting stuff in my eyes, which was a total surprise, I've had no issues at all...none when I used it then...durability was great...none now with what is still left in that bottle...that's been a couple years ago. It has not turned any off colors and has not solidified (haven't looked since around July 2016 and it was fine then...but I've had it 3-4 years now. Maybe you recall when you sent it to me.) and the durability is still great. Cleans paint great! It is thicker than my new bottle of 501, but since I've never bought my own bottle of 601 to see it's consistency, I have no way of knowing if my sample is thicker because of the viscosity of the 601 or because the chemical reaction of the two.

I know...I've read many times that newly mixed product works best for longevity and I've also read that left over product should be discarded. I just can't get myself to throw it away because it still works and I plan on using all of it.

Glad you introduced this to us, richy! I recently bought a bottle of 501 & 105 with the plan of buying some 601 to mix with each when needed.

I'm sure you've played around with using DG products both with and without. Have you done any durability testing in that regard to give a definite and specific increase in longevity on any of your projects/tests? I've heard adding 601 to 111/105 can push durability to a year. I just wonder if there's any truth to that.
 
Hoytman said:
Richy,
I still have the bottle you sent to me. Other than nearly getting stuff in my eyes, which was a total surprise, I've had no issues at all...none when I used it then...durability was great...none now with what is still left in that bottle...that's been a couple years ago. It has not turned any off colors and has not solidified (haven't looked since around July 2016 and it was fine then...but I've had it 3-4 years now. Maybe you recall when you sent it to me.) and the durability is still great. Cleans paint great! It is thicker than my new bottle of 501, but since I've never bought my own bottle of 601 to see it's consistency, I have no way of knowing if my sample is thicker because of the viscosity of the 601 or because the chemical reaction of the two.

I know...I've read many times that newly mixed product works best for longevity and I've also read that left over product should be discarded. I just can't get myself to throw it away because it still works and I plan on using all of it.

Glad you introduced this to us, richy! I recently bought a bottle of 501 & 105 with the plan of buying some 601 to mix with each when needed.

I'm sure you've played around with using DG products both with and without. Have you done any durability testing in that regard to give a definite and specific increase in longevity on any of your projects/tests? I've heard adding 601 to 111/105 can push durability to a year. I just wonder if there's any truth to that.
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I've got 111/601 on a vehicle now and after about 8-9 months, I have no doubt there will be some still hanging on in another 4 months. It's seriously blowing my mind.
 
Ok, don't laugh, but when I've had 601 / 105 left over, I take it inside and wax the bathroom mirrors.
Great stuff
 
glfnaz said:
Ok, don't laugh, but when I've had 601 / 105 left over, I take it inside and wax the bathroom mirrors.
Great stuff
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Yep...Me too! i found that 601/501 is awesome on fiberglass tubs and showers.:buffing:
 
Hoytman said:
Richy,
I still have the bottle you sent to me. Other than nearly getting stuff in my eyes, which was a total surprise, I've had no issues at all...none when I used it then...durability was great...none now with what is still left in that bottle...that's been a couple years ago. It has not turned any off colors and has not solidified (haven't looked since around July 2016 and it was fine then...but I've had it 3-4 years now. Maybe you recall when you sent it to me.) and the durability is still great. Cleans paint great! It is thicker than my new bottle of 501, but since I've never bought my own bottle of 601 to see it's consistency, I have no way of knowing if my sample is thicker because of the viscosity of the 601 or because the chemical reaction of the two.

I know...I've read many times that newly mixed product works best for longevity and I've also read that left over product should be discarded. I just can't get myself to throw it away because it still works and I plan on using all of it.

Glad you introduced this to us, richy! I recently bought a bottle of 501 & 105 with the plan of buying some 601 to mix with each when needed.

I'm sure you've played around with using DG products both with and without. Have you done any durability testing in that regard to give a definite and specific increase in longevity on any of your projects/tests? I've heard adding 601 to 111/105 can push durability to a year. I just wonder if there's any truth to that.
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Bill, I can't believe after all this time that it's still in a liquid state. Mine turned into a brick, but I had it in a bottle that had a lot of air in it too. As long as it hasn't turned into a brick, it will still work fine; I'm sure of it.
And if I had known that it would build pressure like that (the red stopper makes it very air tight) then I might not have even sent it to you, or at the very least, warned you about opening it. I still feel bad about that!!

Harpolith said:
I've got 111/601 on a vehicle now and after about 8-9 months, I have no doubt there will be some still hanging on in another 4 months. It's seriously blowing my mind.
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DG is probably the most under-rated chemical company around. The people who know and use it are blown away by their entire line.

glfnaz said:
Ok, don't laugh, but when I've had 601 / 105 left over, I take it inside and wax the bathroom mirrors.
Great stuff
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I love 501 on glass as it cleans it well too!

Jowillie said:
Yep...Me too! i found that 601/501 is awesome on fiberglass tubs and showers.:buffing:
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Absolutely; remember it is a marine product.
 
How many of you guys have used the technique of laying down the 601, then went over it with the sealant?

How many of you applied, say four dots of sealant to a pad, with one dot of 601? (Assuming the ratio is correct).
 
dlc95 said:
How many of you guys have used the technique of laying down the 601, then went over it with the sealant?

How many of you applied, say four dots of sealant to a pad, with one dot of 601? (Assuming the ratio is correct).
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I've layered it. Still included the 601 with the sealant. Going on 11 months and still shining & beading.

Funny you mention the "mixing of the dots." I was just thinking about that possibility. Let us know if anyone tries it.
 
Jowillie said:
I've layered it. Still included the 601 with the sealant. Going on 11 months and still shining & beading.

Funny you mention the "mixing of the dots." I was just thinking about that possibility. Let us know if anyone tries it.
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I might give it a go.
 
I've done it both ways-- pre mixed and one before the other. Splitting hairs, but I feel like I got a little more gloss when using it 4:1 pre-mixed. I don't think it really matters how one approaches it.
 
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