Duragloss product definitive guide

Klasse Act said:
Yeah using the word "polish" here is a literal term and like I said earlier, none of the DG "polishes" are aggressive enough to correct anything really. I wonder why they have never gotten around to actually producing a polish, maybe use M101 as the benchmark and go from there. After that let's see a tire coating....carry on, LOL!
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Agreed, "Polish" is a poor label here. #501 is heavy on paint cleaner & light on sealant. #105 is heavy on sealant and light on cleaner. Neither is abrasive.
 
RTexasF said:
Agreed, "Polish" is a poor label here. #501 is heavy on paint cleaner & light on sealant. #105 is heavy on sealant and light on cleaner. Neither is abrasive.
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Maybe their term of "polish or polishing agents" refers to the use of chemicals vs. abrasives? Take HD Cut for example, it combines abrasives plus chemical cutting ability. I don't know, just thinking out loud.
 
Mike Honcho said:
I learn something every time you think out loud, keep doing it!



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That can be scary! I rarely take things for face value and do a lot of research to better understand products. I'm a very big Duragloss fan so I have called them a few times to better understand their products. I was very confused about their polishes so I called and asked for some guidance. Basically the answer I received was each one was a step increase in cleaning ability. After that was explained my immediate thought was to relate it to foam pads. We have different levels of cutting ability with foam pads based on the task at hand. Different paint systems respond differently to not only pad choice, but also chemical choice.

Being on the production side of things now, my understanding of detailing chemicals has greatly improved. I don't know everything obviously, but I make an effort to learn something every single day.
 
Received the reply from DG and no the 531 is not discontinued. So apparently PBMG is not carrying it, luckily DG's shipping is reasonable.

Dave
 
When using 105, 501 and 111 (mixed with 601) how many section passes do ya'll make? Pad pressure? (I'm using a PC DA polisher.)
 
Those are different. For 111 I would do one pass only. It's a sealant only - there's no correction or cleaning taking place with it. I can't see any reason to do more than one pass. I would go light on pressure and use a pad with no cut, probably a blue or red pad (Lake Country - others may be different).

I think multiple passes would be fine for 105 or 501. I think they're more cleaners than abrasive polishes. I'd do a test spot and see how much is coming off the paint. If you're getting any dirt off I'd go with a couple of passes until it's clean. If you can't see it on the pad, clean it on a white towel and see how that looks. Should be pretty clear if it's removing any contamination.
 
I just used 105 by hand on a seemingly clean light silver 4Runner. I was blown away by the amount of dirt that came off. The applicator pad was black after just one quarter panel that looked totally clean to begin with. So, I'd suggest that 105 has a fair amount of chemical cleaning ability (which I already knew, but this confirmed it again).
 
I use 501 after correction. Always. For me, 501 is either a stand alone product to clean the paint if no correction is needed or as a last step after correction and just before LSP.
 
Puckman said:
I use 501 after correction. Always. For me, 501 is either a stand alone product to clean the paint if no correction is needed or as a last step after correction and just before LSP.
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I do the same. I'll premix with 601, so I can apply my LSP immediately. If time's not available, I can always apply LSP a week or two later.
Don't rule out 105. Not nearly as aggressive of a cleaner as 501, but still does a respectable job with greater longevity.

Bill
 
Update on 271, Rubber and Flat Black Dressing. I keep trying other stuff and keep coming back to this for hard plastic, except for the wiper cowling. For some reason it won't keep that dark and good looking. On my other black plastic it seems to be superior to most other stuff. (Have not compared it to PERL - have some on the way.)

However... one negative I did notice. I did have the black trim on the back of my LR3 with 271 and half with Blackfire AIO Trim and Tire Protectant. After a few days the 271 side had noticeably more dust on it than did the Blackfire side. This may be one reason to use BF vs. DG. Sorry DG fans - hate to give a negative report.

Note that I prefer 271 in every other way - goes on easier, doesn't run, doesn't look blotchy, etc. BF is good a well - I just find it harder to apply, it needs more time to dry, and may need several coats to get even coverage. Still using 271, btw. Price to performance on a car with a lot of black trim, I can live with the extra dust.

Hmmm... maybe a light coat of BF a day or two after a heavy coat of 271 would solve the dusting problem... need to test this.
 
RippyD said:
Update on 271, Rubber and Flat Black Dressing. I keep trying other stuff and keep coming back to this for hard plastic, except for the wiper cowling. For some reason it won't keep that dark and good looking. On my other black plastic it seems to be superior to most other stuff. (Have not compared it to PERL - have some on the way.)

However... one negative I did notice. I did have the black trim on the back of my LR3 with 271 and half with Blackfire AIO Trim and Tire Protectant. After a few days the 271 side had noticeably more dust on it than did the Blackfire side. This may be one reason to use BF vs. DG. Sorry DG fans - hate to give a negative report.

Note that I prefer 271 in every other way - goes on easier, doesn't run, doesn't look blotchy, etc. BF is good a well - I just find it harder to apply, it needs more time to dry, and may need several coats to get even coverage. Still using 271, btw. Price to performance on a car with a lot of black trim, I can live with the extra dust.

Hmmm... maybe a light coat of BF a day or two after a heavy coat of 271 would solve the dusting problem... need to test this.
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I have some 271 on the shelf but haven't tried it yet. Can you compare it with WETS? Similar products? I have used wets and love it.
 
Have not tried WETS. Have some on the way and will report back after I compare. Have tired Blackfire AIO Trim Protectant, Megs Back to Black, Adam's In and Out spray, and a few others. Keep coming back to 271 for my bumpers and wheel trim.
 
WETS still not here. I also have Solution Finish on the way, which I suspect is going to crush everything in terms of darkening.

Unrelated but relevant to this thread, I did a comparison of DG APC, Opt Power Clean, and Blackfire Interior Cleaner. I was testing out the Blackfire for a review and was surprised at how well it cleaned relative to the others. Then I thought that maybe I'm running my APC too lean.

I typically use DG APC at 20:1 for my interior, maybe 30:1 for the dash and areas that aren't dirty. I had the back of a seat that was filthy from a kids shoes (in a car seat) and did some testing. I did tests with DG at 20:1, 10:1, and 3:1, the Blackfire, and Opt APC at 10:1 and 3:1. They all cleaned pretty well. Opt at 3:1 and Blackfire were about equal. The higher ratios didn't do nearly as well.

But the DG at 3:1 removed all the dirt before I even wiped it. There were clean streaks where the cleaner ran down the seat. This 3:1 DG out cleaned the others by a lot. Not if it's a better cleaner or just stronger. I went over the seat with a water-only MF twice in case it was too strong for leather. I have a lot of OPC to use up. After that I'll move to DG. Very impressive cleaning compared to OPC, which I think is very good btw.
 
You could but I don't know why you would. You're covering a light polish/cleaner and sealant with another light polish/cleaner and sealant. I would use one or the other and then top it with another sealant if you like. Not sure why you feel the need to layer them. If you want to cover the Autoglym, I would use one of their products to sure it would bond. Or use a prep solution, in which case there's no point to using a sealant.

If you want to top 105/601, I would use 111/601 or a wax like Collinite. 111/601 combo is pretty hard to beat. Great shine and ~6 months of durability.
 
Anyone know if DG 462 Ultimate Orange can be used as spray on / wipe off? Or does it have to be rinsed off? Looking to extend uses to the household (e.g., general all-purpose surface cleaner, diluted ~15:1). Thanks, guys & gals.
 
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