Favorite must have general paint polish?

Menzerna pf2500 is a very underated polish. It's a very good one step product. I keep a bottle in stock for that reason. More than once I have used it with a microfiber cutting pad for a awesome one step correction where there aren't too many RIDS.

For some reason I was thinking finishing polishes.

But I agree 100%. PF2500 is one of the hands down best polishes I've ever used. Very capable, very consistent.

It seems to have gotten lost in the deluge of all the new releases. Aside from perception, it can't take away from the obvious performance capabilities of the product.

I see a LOT of guys reviewing products, but it makes me wonder how much they've actually learned the nuances of the product.
 
•To appropriate some of Meguiar’s vernacular:

-Meguiar’s M205 is my favorite Paint Cleaner.

-3M IHG is my favorite Paint Polish.


Bob

That’s so wrong... That’s like saying M205 is Meguiars’ paint cleaner, and #7 Show Car Glaze is their real paint polish. Who thinks this way?
 
That’s so wrong...
That’s like saying M205 is Meguiars’ paint cleaner,
and #7 Show Car Glaze is their real paint polish.

Who thinks this way?
What a crock...

No...you’re so wrong, on so many points!

You’re calling Meguiar’s, and their
representatives, liars?

You’re saying you’ve never heard of
Meguiar’s 5-Step paint care system?


What a crock...


Bob
 
What a crock...

No...you’re so wrong, on so many points!

You’re calling Meguiar’s, and their
representatives, liars?

You’re saying you’ve never heard of
Meguiar’s 5-Step paint care system?


What a crock...


Bob

Enlighten us with the official pages that illustrate the 5-Step Paint Care System.

And it better be quite distinctive, because it would mean they’d be going against their own labeling, which doesn’t sound like something they’d do.

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But go ahead, prove me wrong.

Oh and Imperial Hand Glaze is your favorite polish? So what’s your favorite glaze, Joaquin?
 
How much difference between the two? I know what the chart says, but when would you pick one over the other?

Also, can anybody explain when to use the middle-range Menzerna polishes (2000-2500)? And of all the choices, which one is the go-to for non pros? Or is the answer to just use what is branded Jescar since there are fewer options?

Well the 3500 has 2x as much cut the 3800 is like a jeweling or ultrafine polish for cars that are already in excellent shape
 
Enlighten us with the official pages that illustrate the 5-Step Paint Care System.

And it better be quite distinctive, because it would mean they’d be going against their own labeling, which doesn’t sound like something they’d do.

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But go ahead, prove me wrong.

Oh and Imperial Hand Glaze is your favorite polish? So what’s your favorite glaze, Joaquin?

He's right but it's not 5 products it's 5 steps starting with washing and ending with maintain for step 5
 
one thing you might want to consider is - and maybe not
Since there are SO MANY products out there and SO MANY good ones, some of them have some unique characteristics like will not stain trim
Knowing which ones will and which ones don't is good to know
 
Ultimate polish has fillers it doesn't really get the job done it just hides defects

It has an abrasive in it.

I attempted removing some 2000 grit with it and a polishing pad. Even after IPA wipe down it still revealed some level of removal.

There are pics in one of my albums here.
 
Ultimate polish has fillers it doesn't really get the job done it just hides defects

Ultimate Polish works really well on soft paints like Toyota, Honda, and Subaru. It's really oily and I've found others may product better gloss, but for a beginner with a car with average/soft paint it's a great starting point.
 
You’re saying you’ve never heard of Meguiar’s 5-Step paint care system?


Just a tidbit of car detailing history....

When I went to work for Meguiar's at the corporate office in Irvine back in 2002 the only copy that had for "The 5-Step Paint Care Cycle" was an image showing 5 distinct steps in a circle.

As the Corporate Write, I took the image and wrote out in copy the first and original "The 5-Step Paint Care Cycle". I think Mike Stoops re-wrote it and the either deleted my original article or "moved" it to the Moderator's Forum [group], but I have a copy of the original and because I cross-posted it all over the place by quoting myself in replies it still exists.


Just history....


:)
 
Just did my first vehicle with Sonax PF and loved it. I wont ever be without a bottle again!

SONAX Perfect Finish is a great fine cut polish. And while it was specifically formulated for use with rotary buffers I've had good luck using it with orbital too...

Last year at Detail Fest one of my teams did a ROTARY BUFFER ONLY detail to the yellow Camaro and it took first place in the Detailer's Cup and the guys finished out using SONAX Perfect Finish with Lake Country Gold Foam Jeweling Pads on the FLEX PE14

Hologram-Free


At least to the naked eye.


:)
 


•To appropriate some of Meguiar’s vernacular:


-Meguiar’s M205 is my favorite Paint Cleaner.

-3M IHG is my favorite Paint Polish.


Bob


While it's true that in the old days Meguiar's called their compounds and polishes "cleaners", they have modernized their terminology to match most of the general use of general terms. (If that makes sense)

In their early days there was in order of aggressiveness,

M04 Heavy Cut Cleaner --> this was their version of a heavy cut compound

M01 Medium Cut Cleaner --> this was their version of a medium cut compound

M02 Fine Cut Cleaner --> this was their version of a light to medium cut polish


They did have the Deep Crystal System which included a paint cleaner and a non-abrasive polish plus a wax. I have every single "version" of this system and all the bottles with all the different labels used over the years this system was on the market.

While the Deep Crystal System was on the market they introduced ScratchX and it was called a paint cleaner but it evolved into a fine cut polish. Early versions didn't like to be machine applied and would become gummy when heated up, they fixed this and continued to tweak it and improve it to the point that it could be used with the Meguiar's G100 (and all the versions after the G100), by the average do-it-yourselfer to get great results without the product becoming gummy.


I have all the old catalogs, most of the old products and I was calling on shops showing this product starting in 1987.

I also wrote my first book titled,

The Art of Polishing Paint
A Users Guide for the Meguiar's Professional Line


Which explained the world of Meguiar's in the first and only Meguiar's how-to book.

I still have original copies of this first book and the electronic files somewhere. This is also the book that Barry Meguiar called me about in the year 2000 and asked me to rip out the first 4 chapters and mail them to him and after he read them a year later he hired me to be the Meguiar's Corporate Write and take over his duties of writing for the company.

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Just a tidbit of car detailing history. I think I'm the only guy that remembers all this stuff plus more and also types about it on the Interweb.


Don't know if the above helped...


:dunno:
 
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In this write-up I did, I shared what was called the Meguiar's Professional Demo Kit, which myself and all the other Megs Reps would take to shop on shop calls and leave with the shop to test out the products.


Here's the link to the article,

Meguiar's Professional Demo Kit - Mike Phillips Antique Car Wax Collection


Here's just ONE picture from the article that shows the M01 and M02 in sample size bottles. The kit did not include the M04

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More pics in the actual article,

Meguiar's Professional Demo Kit - Mike Phillips Antique Car Wax Collection


:)
 
Mike is on trip down memory lane this morning. I like reading the history, thanks Mike.
 
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