Ferrari 458 Italia...

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Hello all. Been detailing a clients cars now for several years and he is super happy with my work.

He just picked up a new black 458. It is an awesome car!

I have detailed it a few times already. Washed it and waxed it. I do everything by hand.

I use TRT brushes and TRT wash products and their wax.

Recently he came to me and said that he sees 'scratches' in his paint's finish. I don't know how they could have gotten into/onto the paint, becuz the brush I'm using is super soft. You can still see them in certain light/angles even after I wax it. I don't know what is going on! I can't be scratching the paint with my super soft brush can I?

I may have to call a buddy of mine and ask him what I can do!





****This is the gist of a phone call I received from a buddy of mine...who 'details' vehicles on the side****

I figured everyone may get a kick outta this little story...

I told him that I would love to get my hands on that vehicle and that it needs to be corrected via machine. He does not own any nor is he confident enough to use one.

Time will tell, but I do not think he will even sub this out...just gonna 'make it shiny' to make the client 'happy' with the work!

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First off having this being a black car, swirls will show up a lot easier. Also the process you use could be using may have caused it. Using the correct products help, but using them right works

Sent from my XT907
 
It's possible to cause light swirling or scratches with a brush of any kind. . .even the best ones. They tend to drag dust and debris across the surface.

I personally only use a brush at my shop if the car is really dirty or big and I'm going to be doing a polishing step.

When I'm maintaining my personal cars, or when washing a clients car with no polishing step, I using a rinsless wash method or traditional method with a microfiber mitt and 2 bucket system with grit guards.


Don't feel too bad about some light scratches or swirls here and there. Keep in mind that all paint will eventually get scratches and swirls. I don't care how careful you are. Over the course of months or years, even just driving your vehicle on a dusty day will cause swirls.
 
This thread needs a pic of the car!

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I can't edit my thread: I wanted to make it a little easier to follow.

*****This is not me! This is a phone call I received from someone I know who was looking for advice!*****

I kinda thought it was funny, albeit sad, that some people have no clue and are 'responsible' for some fine machinery out there!

Also it amazes me that someone who purchases high end vehicles are lost when it comes to proper car care!

Anywho, wish I had written this thread a little bit clearer and with some more humor in it!

LOL
 
As soon as you mentioned using a brush, a light bulb went off in my head, lol.

I prefer to use microfiber chenille wash mitts. I had my last car washed with the "softest" horse hair brushes ever and the paint was still scratched all over. I'd stay away from brushes if I were you.
 
I don't think he has any good or even decent microfiber at all. No good wash mitts either. Only that 'super soft' brush! LOL!
 
TH3M B0N3Z said:
As soon as you mentioned using a brush, a light bulb went off in my head, lol.

I prefer to use microfiber chenille wash mitts. I had my last car washed with the "softest" horse hair brushes ever and the paint was still scratched all over. I'd stay away from brushes if I were you.
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Johny B said:
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The only brushes I use are for my rubber mats, tires occasionally, and that's about it. In my opinion, brushes do not belong on paint. I really don't care how soft the hair is supposed to be or what dead animal it came off of. Microfiber chenille wash mitts, 2 of them, only touch my car's paint.
 
How does someone like that even get high end cars to detail?

turns my stomach, such a beautiful car with all the wrong techniques.
 
Agreed, I'd only use a Brush on a Bus, huge Motorhome, Fire Truck, Trailer.

If he can afford a 458, he can afford to place a beaner or two in your hands, and send you off to the auto store.

Especially for the 458, which I understand has very soft paint.
 
Anthony@zerboautoworks said:
How does someone like that even get high end cars to detail?

turns my stomach, such a beautiful car with all the wrong techniques.
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Right place, right time I guess. He's been doing all of his cars for a few years now. A shame really...
 
Yeah, I was confused. I thought you were using the brushes. I think I missed something. . .
 
NastyGT500 said:
I don't think he has any good or even decent microfiber at all. No good wash mitts either. Only that 'super soft' brush! LOL!
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NastyGT500 said:
Right place, right time I guess. He's been doing all of his cars for a few years now. A shame really...
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Point him to AGO to start? i can attest that through knowledge gained from forums here and elsewhere i've been able to pick up the machine use without fear. sure, still have a ways to master, but a DA machine should be part of every arsenal, IMHO.
 
statusdetailing said:
Yeah, I was confused. I thought you were using the brushes. I think I missed something. . .
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LOL, sorry, it was clear to me, but I wrote it! yes, not me!


Becciasm said:
Point him to AGO to start? i can attest that through knowledge gained from forums here and elsewhere i've been able to pick up the machine use without fear. sure, still have a ways to master, but a DA machine should be part of every arsenal, IMHO.
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I did just this! I hope he looks...but doesn't find my thread! LOL
 
Oh, I thought you used the brushes, too. LOL.

But there's your proof that no matter how soft the brushes are, they can potentially scratch the paint. In my opinion, I think ALL brushes will scratch. Even when I see Mike Phillips or Chemical Guys using the boars hair brushes, I cringe. Nothing against him, very knowledgeable guy, but I do not like any brushes touching my car's paint.
 
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