First Impression: Optimum Microfiber Polishing Pads

Setec Astronomy said:
I don't think Optimum has even said anything about these yet, they weren't supposed to be announced until SEMA (not that Optimum ever says much, they tend to let the products speak for themselves). If your complaining about Autogeek's marketing of the product, what do you expect them to say? "We have a new product from Optimum, no big whoop..."
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AG's marketing is awsome! Look how Nick is doing detailed thread with tons of pics of every single new products. So, I will wait till SEMA then :)
 
I'm missing something, you feel as if you have wasted your money on your 60+ foam pads that you think you should just throw out now and buy Optimum MF pads, but at the same time you are saying the marketing stinks for these pads and you don't know anything about them...huh?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I'm missing something, you feel as if you have wasted your money on your 60+ foam pads that you think you should just throw out now and buy Optimum MF pads, but at the same time you are saying the marketing stinks for these pads and you don't know anything about them...huh?
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NO no :P

I said, give me a good reason to stop using my foam pad for these. and with the info I had, I'm saying the ''good reason'' is not there.
 
Ok, ok...I only have another 20 or 30 years until I wear out all my foam pads so I can get some of these newfangled MF pads, or whatever micro-carbon nanotube-fiber thing they have in 2040...

Actually, I did get some of the Meg's MF pads...only played with them a little but they are great for polishing DVD's and CD's on the GG 3"...
 
cobraa said:
NO no :P

I said, give me a good reason to stop using my foam pad for these. and with the info I had, I'm saying the ''good reason'' is not there.
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its there I guess you just missed reading the 1000 threads about how everyone loves the megs pads and all the benefits they get from them. I will say probably get the same deal with these but these can be used on a rotary and megs cant. its kinda hard to get all kind of info on a pad that was leaked and not supposed to be out till SEMA..I think it was nice they decided to sell them early instead of waiting for SEMA. there is PLENTY of info out there you just dont seem to want to look.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I'm missing something, you feel as if you have wasted your money on your 60+ foam pads that you think you should just throw out now and buy Optimum MF pads, but at the same time you are saying the marketing stinks for these pads and you don't know anything about them...huh?
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05xrunner said:
its there I guess you just missed reading the 1000 threads about how everyone loves the megs pads and all the benefits they get from them. I will say probably get the same deal with these but these can be used on a rotary and megs cant. its kinda hard to get all kind of info on a pad that was leaked and not supposed to be out till SEMA..I think it was nice they decided to sell them early instead of waiting for SEMA. there is PLENTY of info out there you just dont seem to want to look.
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I really missed that part. so I will wait till sema for more info.

I'm a rotary guy so I never cared about the meg system. Now, I care.
 
cobraa said:
I really missed that part. so I will wait till sema for more info.

I'm a rotary guy so I never cared about the meg system. Now, I care.
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Do you live under a rock? I'm from West Virginia and even I understand this, the polishing pad is out now and the cutting pad will be out later. :)
 
cobraa said:
I'm down for this. there's only one pad tho? no finishing pad, one pad fit all ? that's also neat. no need to buy 4 differents foam pad anymore

See, that's the kind of info missing in the description.
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There will be two different pads, 1 for compunding and 1 for finishing
 
oie! wasnt this product leaked? and what point would it make for a company to just put out a polishing pad and not a cutting pad...i cant wait untill sema to read about the new products being released, sadly i cant afford sema nor could i get in right now so maybe in the future!.sema is like new york fashion week for us car guys!. ill wait untill after sema to make a purchase of these pads, reason one is i would want both pads, reason 2 is for more end user input regarding the product. good things come to those who wait!
 
cobraa said:
You just don't get the point. The marketing on this product is no-good. This is just an insight to Optimum that they need to work a bit harder on the description/advantage of the new released products.

Usually,optimum does it well and they never release a product just for fun, there's always an innovation behind the product or something new to the industry but, in this case, all I see is a ''following-attitude'' product.

I can't believe they wasted X amount of times on this pad for nothing but tell us why it's better, what it does. I'm highly interesting in everything Optimum release but I feel like : MOOAARRR info please!!
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Ok, first I would never advocate selling/tossing all your pads because you will find that for OEM finishes the MF will perform better in two steps than foam will in three, but you will run into some paint finishes that you may need to use a different approach on and then you may need the multiple choices of foam to dial in the perfect finish. Basically, on 95% of your details, you will benefit by saving time...and time is money. Another benefit is reduced cost per car by means of product usage. These pads are considerably less absorbant than any foam pad. Combine that attribute with the Hyper sprays and you'll be using a fraction of the product you would with the pad priming techniques we've grown used to over the past few years. As an example, only one spray is needed to prime the Optimum MF pad and then a single spray for each of the following sections (18"x18" to 24"x24" on average). Our foam choice is not closed cell like Meg's but open cell which runs cooler and will certainly enhance longevity. They can be cleaned on the fly with a pad conditioning brush, or a pad washer and are washing machine safe too. Another benefit is price point especially when buying in 3 or six packs.

I will provide more info as needed, just realize that these were pushed out a little early and all the pieces aren't in place yet. Come November, we'll have DA and Rotary Backing plates in all sizes as well as the cutting pads. Also, while we will be marketing this as a complete system using the Hyper Sprays, you can certainly use our pastes and Poliseal, too.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
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So are the ones that Rick has over at (you know where) not the same as what will eventually be tied to this system?
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Yes, Rick and our warehouse have some of them now...and the rest will be along shortly.
 
Chris,

One spray with not thoroughly prime each fiber like Meg's recommends, but that's ok with the OPT pads, correct? I'm just wondering if having some "dry" fibers will create marring? I know these aren't Meg's pads, I'm just curious of the difference in application.

Thanks.
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Chris,

One spray with not thoroughly prime each fiber like Meg's recommends, but that's ok with the OPT pads, correct? I'm just wondering if having some "dry" fibers will create marring? I know these aren't Meg's pads, I'm just curious of the difference in application.

Thanks.
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One spray to prime, and one for the panel...so the first panel will have two. Due to the viscosity of the Hyper Sprays you will thoroughtly prime the pad as you spread the product before you work it. If you use traditional products (pastes) you can certainly still prime the pad as you did with the others, but because these don't absorb much product be sure to use as little as possible to avoid sling. As far as marring, you'd have to be working dirty to cause marring with these pads, they are at least as soft as my paint safe towels if not softer.
 
I can't see MF pads ever replacing foam as far as finishing goes, but I can see myself buying a lot less foam cutting pads....actually that has already happened!

I'm definitely a big fan of the Megs MF pads and I can't wait to try the Optimum ones too! :props:


I do wonder about the use of them on a rotary polisher. It was my understanding that the Megs pads can be used with a rotary, while not recommended, as it's not really beneficial to do so. I know of several people who have tried it, but the pads simply cut better via DA on 95% of the paints out there. With a rotary the MF fibers will lay flat and pack down tightly because of the direct rotation. On a DA the random orbit movement causes all those fibers to twist around, constantly expose new/more abrasives, this resulting in a greater cutting area. With the MF material being the same on both pads, I don't understand the benefit in using them on a rotary, but I guess time will tell. ;)
 
RaskyR1 said:
I can't see MF pads ever replacing foam as far as finishing goes, but I can see myself buying a lot less foam cutting pads....actually that has already happened!

I'm definitely a big fan of the Megs MF pads and I can't wait to try the Optimum ones too! :props:


I do wonder about the use of them on a rotary polisher. It was my understanding that the Megs pads can be used with a rotary, while not recommended, as it's not really beneficial to do so. I know of several people who have tried it, but the pads simply cut better via DA on 95% of the paints out there. With a rotary the MF fibers will lay flat and pack down tightly because of the direct rotation. On a DA the random orbit movement causes all those fibers to twist around, constantly expose new/more abrasives, this resulting in a greater cutting area. With the MF material being the same on both pads, I don't understand the benefit in using them on a rotary, but I guess time will tell. ;)
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Chad we used them last night we only had the finishing pads but so far from what we did last night the pads seemed to run cooler I believe the biggest difference is the foam design as far the MicroFiber part to me they seem the same as the Megs Microfiber.
 
Harleyguy said:
Chad we used them last night we only had the finishing pads but so far from what we did last night the pads seemed to run cooler I believe the biggest difference is the foam design as far the MicroFiber part to me they seem the same as the Megs Microfiber.
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Awesome! :props:

Were you running them on a rotary or DA?
 
Chad I used them on a DA only we had four machines running at a time and matter of fact now that you mentioned it I didn't try them on the Flex 3401 when you get into that zone correcting paint you know how hard it is to stop LOL also I forgot mention these pads seemed to fit the LC backing plate that was on the PCXP better then the Megs .
 
RaskyR1 said:
It was my understanding that the Megs pads can be used with a rotary, while not recommended, as it's not really beneficial to do so. I know of several people who have tried it, but the pads simply cut better via DA on 95% of the paints out there. With a rotary the MF fibers will lay flat and pack down tightly because of the direct rotation. On a DA the random orbit movement causes all those fibers to twist around, constantly expose new/more abrasives, this resulting in a greater cutting area.
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We have a winner!! :props;

I've tried both Meg's and OPT MF for the first and last time on a rotary.

There is no doubt in my mind that ANY MF pad works much better on a non forced rotation random orbital. I'm really excited to try the new version spray polishes with both companies MF pads.
 
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