Flex 3401 vs. Rupes Mille/Makita P5000C, for those that are wondering.

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I FB messaged Todd Helme(I trust very much) of Rupes asking him....



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Where is the info on the Mille? Rupes has indeed made a forced rotation sander for years and National Detroit made a forced rotation polisher the ND9900 but it was an air tool.

I'm glad to hear the Makita is running the right, clockwise, direction in forced rotation mode. I will make it more comfortable for people who already run a rotary and help people who don't get familial with the feel.

Does anyone know how the action of the Rupes Mille compares with the Makita as far far as orbits per revolution and revolutions per minute?


Thanks
 
it will be nice to see a side by side/apples to apples comparison (true test) between the two (flex/makita) with the same pads, polishes/compounds and number of passes. should be a good one...
 
RSW said:
Where is the info on the Mille? Rupes has indeed made a forced rotation sander for years and National Detroit made a forced rotation polisher the ND9900 but it was an air tool.

I'm glad to hear the Makita is running the right, clockwise, direction in forced rotation mode. I will make it more comfortable for people who already run a rotary and help people who don't get familial with the feel.

Does anyone know how the action of the Rupes Mille compares with the Makita as far far as orbits per revolution and revolutions per minute?


Thanks
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Thoughts RSW? RPM is higher on the Makita.

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hey mark, you should buy one so if you don't like it (you'll know right away) you can sell it to me for cheap LOL...
 
VISITOR said:
hey mark, you should buy one so if you don't like it (you'll know right away) you can sell it to me for cheap LOL...
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LOL...I'm just waiting for it to go on the site for ordering.


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VISITOR said:
it will be nice to see a side by side/apples to apples comparison (true test) between the two (flex/makita) with the same pads, polishes/compounds and number of passes. should be a good one...
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Yeah I can't wait either, since the 3401 and Rupes Mille can't convert to free spinning.

IMHO, the advantage that the Makita brings to the table is that it's two tools in one. So instead of shelling out $700+ for two tools, a gear driven da and a free spinning da you get both in one tool for $369.00. I'd have to say that's a major plus in the Makita's favor and a revolution in the da world. I'd give up a little on the forced rotation comparison side to a 3401 to have two tools in one. Talk about "Flexability"
 
So do you think the Mille can finish better than my 15mkII? My paint never gets hammered so how a machine finishes is my main concern.

Also I'm assuming more pads from Rupes?
 
idriveblackcars said:
So do you think the Mille can finish better than my 15mkII? My paint never gets hammered so how a machine finishes is my main concern.

Also I'm assuming more pads from Rupes?
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I think it depends on the paint hardness. Harder paint, the forced rotation will finish just fine. Softer, a free spinning DA for sure. I'm not sure how effective the free spin mode will be for the Makita. I'm buying it for the forced rotation, so if the free spinning mode doesn't bog down easily, that will be icing on the cake


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Mille
clockwise
5.2mm Stroke
7,490 OPM
14 orbits per rotation at 535 RPM
900 watts
motor amps ???
6.17lbs

PO5000C
Clockwise
5.5mm stroke
6800 OPM
Math comes out to 8.608 orbits per 790 rpm
900 watts
7.8 amp
6.2lbs

3401
counter clockwise
8mm stroke
4800 OPM
10 orbits at 480 RPM
900 watts
9amp
5.73lbs

Mike Phillips may you spin backing plate and count how many orbits per rotation on the PO5000c?
 
If the price is not too high then looks like I'll be getting a mille to compliment my 21 MKII. :xyxthumbs: :)
 
The 3401 spins at 4800 OPM, not the claimed 9600. Kevin Brown tested and proven.


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looking forward to some reviews of these polishers,

one would think it was SEMA with all these releases! Always something happening in the detailing industry!
 
as mentioned.. a test side by side is going to be the true test even with all the stats. it should be interesting...
 
nothingface5384 said:
Mille
clockwise
5.2mm Stroke
7,490 OPM
14 orbits per rotation at 535 RPM
900 watts
motor amps ???
6.17lbs

PO5000C
Clockwise
5.5mm stroke
6800 OPM
Math comes out to 8.608 orbits per 790 rpm
900 watts
7.8 amp
6.2lbs
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So, on paper, which should have more cutting power?


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